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[QUOTE=jeamaria;
I think so, especially since the curlier your hair is the more breakage prone it is. With locs you get to keep all the broken and shed hairs which adds to length. An d then there's the low manipulation factor. I've seen a couple of fotkis (don't remember the names, sorry) of women who have detangled their locs and kept a surprising amount of the length.


Keeping shedding hair helps with length when you have locs. Got it. Thanks.
Hair type 4a
Lorna Simpson hair is beautiful, but just as beautiful is Suzan Lori Parks dreadlocks. Long and well-kept. I wonder, is it easier to grow 4a/b hair this long in dreadlocks versus natural without locs?
Originally Posted by unique4me

I think it depends on the amount of time/care you are willing to put into your hair. I grew my locs for 11 years without cutting, so of course it was going to be long. I'm sure if I grow my hair loose for 11 years, and take good care of it, it will be long as well.

re: slash-I met him a couple of years ago and was surprised when he complemented me on my hair. he has that "other" look, but is super down to earth and definitely identifies himself as a black man (at least this was the impression I got).
I knew Slash was black, though I had heard his mom was Jamaican, not African American. I hadn't always known that, though (maybe in the late 90s I found out) so when I heard it I thought to myself, I wonder if that was why he always used to have his hair in his face like that, to make his features less apparent.

Back in the 80s I bet that would have really affected the popularity of the band if its lead guitarist was black, given their typical audience. Fast forward 20 years and I just cringe at the bile some Metallica fans aim at their Mexican bassist, far less back then.
Originally Posted by jeamaria
im one of those people who knows slash is half black, but i still dont see it and i dont consider him black (unless he considers himself black). i guess im not one for the one drop rule. in the link that was initially posted, slash is addressing how he felt about those lyrics.
i think its also different now vs back when they were popular. people didnt know he was half black because ther was no internet, there was no tmz, and the paparazzi wasnt everywhere. celebrities had a significant more amount of privacy 10-20 yrs ago than they have now.

oh and his hair then vs. now is a PERFECT example of why youre not supposed to brush dry curls!!!
WTF!!! Slash is black? Get the F outta here! That is F-ing awesome! Now HIS hair is awesome =) Black history is not just in February, cuz I just learned something 2day

Anyways, I agree, with the OP, actually, Lorna's got some great looking hair, but I wonder if her hair is crunchy, so to speak....forgive me b/c I'm a newbie and I don't want to offend. But is there anyone that has hair like that that doesn't have gel/product piled into it? Is that something even achievable for people who aren't mixed or don't have that looser curl texture?
Anyways, I agree, with the OP, actually, Lorna's got some great looking hair, but I wonder if her hair is crunchy, so to speak....forgive me b/c I'm a newbie and I don't want to offend. But is there anyone that has hair like that that doesn't have gel/product piled into it? Is that something even achievable for people who aren't mixed or don't have that looser curl texture?
Originally Posted by sam1082
You'll actually find many African American women here that aren't mixed and have curly hair. Actually looser than Lorna's hair and with more curls.
- Maria

Big Chop: 9/23/07
Relaxer free for almost 5 years!

I knew Slash was black, though I had heard his mom was Jamaican, not African American. I hadn't always known that, though (maybe in the late 90s I found out) so when I heard it I thought to myself, I wonder if that was why he always used to have his hair in his face like that, to make his features less apparent.

Back in the 80s I bet that would have really affected the popularity of the band if its lead guitarist was black, given their typical audience. Fast forward 20 years and I just cringe at the bile some Metallica fans aim at their Mexican bassist, far less back then.
Originally Posted by jeamaria
im one of those people who knows slash is half black, but i still dont see it and i dont consider him black (unless he considers himself black). i guess im not one for the one drop rule. in the link that was initially posted, slash is addressing how he felt about those lyrics.
Originally Posted by subbrock
Since you mention the link, he did describe himself as such; the quote from him begins "As far as being black. . ."

For me personally, I don't think the guy is a racist himself- and I didn't hear that rumor until this thread- everything I've read on him makes him sound like a very cool guy. But I'm kinda shocked he waited until they had actually put out the song to complain about the lyrics. . .kinda pointless, kwim?

Also, I bet most of his fans up to now haven't got a clue about his blackness, not even remotely. I mean, most people wrongly see rock as white music so an artist is gonna have to be pretty obviously black before they notice anything is up. For example, a lot of RATM fans think Zach de la Rocha is a white guy (fair enough he is very light and IMO a lot more white looking than Slash but between his hair and his lyrics. . .)

The hair thing w/Slash made me go "Hmmm" firstly because growing up I was always wondering why that guy had all his hair in his face, secondly because once I finally did see his whole face his features surprised me, and thirdly, the stuff that Mariah Carey said about in her early career how they made photographers shoot her only from certain angles because she looked "too black" in others.

P.S. I really loved his hair back in the day. Him and Agassi had my favorite hair of the 80s .
i love zach de la rocha... *swoon*

its funny how people can perceive race because i never thought zach was white. i saw a picture of him and his mom and i was like, "his mom is white????" but like i said before, slash looks like a regular old white man to me. or santino rice from project runway a few years back...i thought he was a regualr white guy but with flavor and when i saw his mom i was shocked, but then everything made sense.
Anyways, I agree, with the OP, actually, Lorna's got some great looking hair, but I wonder if her hair is crunchy, so to speak....forgive me b/c I'm a newbie and I don't want to offend. But is there anyone that has hair like that that doesn't have gel/product piled into it? Is that something even achievable for people who aren't mixed or don't have that looser curl texture?
Originally Posted by sam1082
her hair looks exactly alot of black members here with 3c hair. so no, you dont have to be mixed to have great hair! i actually dont consider her curl to be loose at all, but if your curls are tighter than that then there may be a significant amount of product or procedure that will have to happen before your hair could possibly look like that. i was just looking in my own fotki and back in 2005-2006 when i was more concerned with curl definition, i had some pretty nice hair going on! apparently i was using elucence as my leave in and then shingling in either KCCC, aloe vera gel,or aloe vera gel + veggie glycerine . i even have a pic where i used jessicurl gelebration spray. i think i might have to revisit gel and shingling...
Lorna's hair is BEAUTIFUL!

Slash......ok I've always thought he was kinda sexy!
Last relaxer - July 07
BC - 8/2/08
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Products in rotation (too many!):
Shampoo - Giovanni Smooth as Silk, Giovanni Tea Tree
Condish - Giovanni Smooth as Silk, Trader Joe Nourish Spa
Leave in - Sheamoisture Curl Milk, KCNT, Giovanni Direct
Deep Treatment - Apoghee Two Step Protein Treatment, Giovanni Nutrafix
Moisturizers - Carefree Curl Gold Spray
Stylers - Sheamoisture Curl Smoothie
oh...see, i told yall i was new! i hadnt even thought about the hair typing thing. Thnx 4 setting me straight gently

Last edited by sam1082; 09-06-2008 at 11:04 AM. Reason: forgot 2 put "me" in there
oh...see, i told yall i was new! i hadnt even thought about the hair typing thing. Thnx 4 setting me straight gently
Originally Posted by sam1082
You will find that most of the women here are very kind and accepting. If anything, most people assume that AA women with curls are mixed or something. I'm actually Dominican so I can't speak for all AA women, but I know that we all come in all shapes, sizes, hair types... We natural women here on NC try to enlighten new members so we can share our knowledge and pass it on to others. A black woman with natural hair is a beautiful thing!

As far as Guns and Roses, always loved them and always will. Doesn't matter if Slash considers himself black or not, he is! The fact that he did the interview means that maybe now that he is older he's trying to get in touch with his roots (hair and color LOL)
- Maria

Big Chop: 9/23/07
Relaxer free for almost 5 years!

You will find that most of the women here are very kind and accepting. If anything, most people assume that AA women with curls are mixed or something. I'm actually Dominican so I can't speak for all AA women, but I know that we all come in all shapes, sizes, hair types... We natural women here on NC try to enlighten new members so we can share our knowledge and pass it on to others. A black woman with natural hair is a beautiful thing!

@Mariage....
well put....


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homemade conditioners
homemade twist'n hold stuff(not quite a gel)
homemade moisturizers (water/glycerin)
jamila henna-quarterly use to stretch hair for length check
giovanni smooth as silk conditioner
creme of nature shampoo and conditioner

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Lorona is beautiful. She is part Cuban-American. I caught the her segment of the show. Thanks for sharing!
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