Unexpected Baking Soda Results...PICTURES ADDED

Okay, first off, baking soda IS a chemical! I know that it may seem to be making your hair out to the condition you're wanting it, but the long-term affects are disastrous! Even when diluted, it still has very harmful effects to it. PLEAASSSEEE take the time out to view these links:

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Originally Posted by Pkz120
Thanks!! I had an awful experience with baking soda. 'Started out cool and it sort of turned on me.
Originally Posted by PrincessPresto
Thank you for appreciating it!
unfortunately sweetie,
people hate old thread resurrection and you posted vids by someone who half this forum takes some issue with so that was a automatic non-welcoming approach. This forum is actually very friendly(mostly) and its a great place to learn and share. Hope you stick around...
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unfortunately sweetie,
people hate old thread resurrection and you posted vids by someone who half this forum takes some issue with so that was a automatic non-welcoming approach. This forum is actually very friendly(mostly) and its a great place to learn and share. Hope you stick around...
Originally Posted by mzmillion



You know when you have an epic argument/ discussion with someone that happened a long time ago and people talked sh*t about it and started rumors and sh*t? Then someone that don't know you that well comes to you, not knowing that yall moved past the beef, and tried to tell you about yourself and how wrong you were. That's kind of what happened here
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds

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where's elle with her gifs when i need them? a TWO YEAR OLD THREAD with....i cant. i CANT. im going to flatiron my hair.

shid i might throw a box of baking soda on top of it too just for the hell of it.
Originally Posted by empressri
Here I am! Does this even warrant a gif?? This warrants some education.

Late poster, if you had searched through other threads rather than just trying to post inflammatory mess, you would see that we actually had a VERY extensive discussion about baking soda and how it affects hair, and also did a pH test on a popular baking soda treatment. Yes, baking soda slightly lifts your hair cuticle, but it can be easily closed using an acidic rinse after, like ACV, or using aloe vera juice on your hair. Other things that lift your hair cuticle include blow dryers, steam treatments, and even WATER when it's alkaline (yes, they make water that has been treated to have a pH of 9, it's supposed to be better for you to drink). pH alone is NOT enough to "relax" your hair - the reason many experience a type of "curl loosening" when using BS is because it allows more moisture to penetrate your hair, which in turn makes it heavier and more moisturized, ie - it hangs more. Any "ill" effects of using BS can easily be avoided by ensuring you bring your hair back to its proper pH level. Now, I would not recommend constantly using BS on your hair, as it is partly sodium, which can be drying on your hair. I hope that helps.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
Okay, I appreciate the education at this, but I really don't understand why I've been approached in such a way as if I was trying to be rude or something. I learned something about baking soda, what it does to the hair, and wanted to help anyone who didn't know about that information. I don't understand why it has to be considered "mess" when I'm just trying to help just like you were...
Originally Posted by Pkz120
Often we get trolls who bring OLD threads back up in order to start controversy, so if that was not your intent, I apologize.

I didn't even look at your videos, I only saw the first link, so I personally wasn't going to attack you just because of the YouTuber whose videos you chose to post...it's really not that serious, although some other posters would like to think so.
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I missed this beef but I do feel bad for the new poster. I think they were really trying to help.......
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I too feel bad if the poster wasnt a troll... I love this forum and am always telling people about the non-drama here but lately when I come here, it seems to always be a defensive post or thread going on and it saddens me....lol. No, seriously, it does. I like us all singing "so happy to be natural" songs and skipping through rainbows....lol.
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there's no thread expiration date as far I see it.

If you're so wigged out by vintage threads then unsub.

simple as that.

truth be told, some ppl just want to be snotty and hateful. not cool.
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there's no thread expiration date as far I see it.

If you're so wigged out by vintage threads then unsub.

simple as that.

truth be told, some ppl just want to be snotty and hateful. not cool.
Originally Posted by PrincessPresto
This is the same thing as someone saying, "If you don't like how people act on the forum, then leave." But that's rude and snotty, right?

Everyone can act how they want to IMHO. I don't care if people bring up old threads, cuss each other out, sing "If all the raindrops were lemon drops and gumdrops..." whatever. It's not my house, and it's not my site. Shrug.
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there's no thread expiration date as far I see it.

If you're so wigged out by vintage threads then unsub.

simple as that.

truth be told, some ppl just want to be snotty and hateful. not cool.
Originally Posted by PrincessPresto

This is the same thing as someone saying, "If you don't like how people act on the forum, then leave." But that's rude and snotty, right?


Everyone can act how they want to IMHO. I don't care if people bring up old threads, cuss each other out, sing "If all the raindrops were lemon drops and gumdrops..." whatever. It's not my house, and it's not my site. Shrug.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
I fail to see how suggesting that irate ppl simply unsub from 'stale' threads is the same as suggesting that they get gone from the entire forum but whatevz. rock on.
True realism consists in revealing the surprising things
which habit keeps covered and prevents us from seeing.
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Here I am! Does this even warrant a gif?? This warrants some education.

Late poster, if you had searched through other threads rather than just trying to post inflammatory mess, you would see that we actually had a VERY extensive discussion about baking soda and how it affects hair, and also did a pH test on a popular baking soda treatment. Yes, baking soda slightly lifts your hair cuticle, but it can be easily closed using an acidic rinse after, like ACV, or using aloe vera juice on your hair. Other things that lift your hair cuticle include blow dryers, steam treatments, and even WATER when it's alkaline (yes, they make water that has been treated to have a pH of 9, it's supposed to be better for you to drink). pH alone is NOT enough to "relax" your hair - the reason many experience a type of "curl loosening" when using BS is because it allows more moisture to penetrate your hair, which in turn makes it heavier and more moisturized, ie - it hangs more. Any "ill" effects of using BS can easily be avoided by ensuring you bring your hair back to its proper pH level. Now, I would not recommend constantly using BS on your hair, as it is partly sodium, which can be drying on your hair. I hope that helps.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
Okay, I appreciate the education at this, but I really don't understand why I've been approached in such a way as if I was trying to be rude or something. I learned something about baking soda, what it does to the hair, and wanted to help anyone who didn't know about that information. I don't understand why it has to be considered "mess" when I'm just trying to help just like you were...
Originally Posted by Pkz120
Often we get trolls who bring OLD threads back up in order to start controversy, so if that was not your intent, I apologize.

I didn't even look at your videos, I only saw the first link, so I personally wasn't going to attack you just because of the YouTuber whose videos you chose to post...it's really not that serious, although some other posters would like to think so.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
The fact that that was her first post made it very easy for one to assume that s/he was a potential troll.
Okay, basically, it all boils down to this. I am VERY new to this site. All I saw was someone using an ingredient that I did the research on and found that it didn't seem very good for our hair. It was all out of help, not trying to start controversy. I didn't even know anyone had an issue with the person I put up for the youtube link...I was just trying to help, that's it!
I too feel bad if the poster wasnt a troll... I love this forum and am always telling people about the non-drama here but lately when I come here, it seems to always be a defensive post or thread going on and it saddens me....lol. No, seriously, it does. I like us all singing "so happy to be natural" songs and skipping through rainbows....lol.
Originally Posted by mzmillion
lol im not a "troll," just wanted to help luv!
unfortunately sweetie,
people hate old thread resurrection and you posted vids by someone who half this forum takes some issue with so that was a automatic non-welcoming approach. This forum is actually very friendly(mostly) and its a great place to learn and share. Hope you stick around...
Originally Posted by mzmillion
Thank you for taking the time out to explain that, cause I was confused as I don't know what!
unfortunately sweetie,
people hate old thread resurrection and you posted vids by someone who half this forum takes some issue with so that was a automatic non-welcoming approach. This forum is actually very friendly(mostly) and its a great place to learn and share. Hope you stick around...
Originally Posted by mzmillion



You know when you have an epic argument/ discussion with someone that happened a long time ago and people talked sh*t about it and started rumors and sh*t? Then someone that don't know you that well comes to you, not knowing that yall moved past the beef, and tried to tell you about yourself and how wrong you were. That's kind of what happened here
Originally Posted by CocoT

That's not exactly what happened. I'm new to this forum, so I really didn't know anything about any "beef" that may have happened here. All I was trying to do was help, I just want everyone to be able to understand that.
Here I am! Does this even warrant a gif?? This warrants some education.

Late poster, if you had searched through other threads rather than just trying to post inflammatory mess, you would see that we actually had a VERY extensive discussion about baking soda and how it affects hair, and also did a pH test on a popular baking soda treatment. Yes, baking soda slightly lifts your hair cuticle, but it can be easily closed using an acidic rinse after, like ACV, or using aloe vera juice on your hair. Other things that lift your hair cuticle include blow dryers, steam treatments, and even WATER when it's alkaline (yes, they make water that has been treated to have a pH of 9, it's supposed to be better for you to drink). pH alone is NOT enough to "relax" your hair - the reason many experience a type of "curl loosening" when using BS is because it allows more moisture to penetrate your hair, which in turn makes it heavier and more moisturized, ie - it hangs more. Any "ill" effects of using BS can easily be avoided by ensuring you bring your hair back to its proper pH level. Now, I would not recommend constantly using BS on your hair, as it is partly sodium, which can be drying on your hair. I hope that helps.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
Okay, I appreciate the education at this, but I really don't understand why I've been approached in such a way as if I was trying to be rude or something. I learned something about baking soda, what it does to the hair, and wanted to help anyone who didn't know about that information. I don't understand why it has to be considered "mess" when I'm just trying to help just like you were...
Originally Posted by Pkz120
Often we get trolls who bring OLD threads back up in order to start controversy, so if that was not your intent, I apologize.

I didn't even look at your videos, I only saw the first link, so I personally wasn't going to attack you just because of the YouTuber whose videos you chose to post...it's really not that serious, although some other posters would like to think so.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
Thank you
Okay, basically, it all boils down to this. I am VERY new to this site. All I saw was someone using an ingredient that I did the research on and found that it didn't seem very good for our hair. It was all out of help, not trying to start controversy. I didn't even know anyone had an issue with the person I put up for the youtube link...I was just trying to help, that's it!
Originally Posted by Pkz120
Like I said, I truly do apologize. Thank you for coming back and explaining (and so we know you are real). No one has an issue with who you put up, it was more the "alarming" way you presented it. But I understand, you're new, we're on the internet. There are misunderstandings. My points about baking soda still stand though - hold on let me find the other thread where we talked about it...

Here it is! http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...in-rocked.html

Same thing as putting anything on your hair, just be sure of the effects and don't overdo it. Even supplements are bad if you OD on them, ya know? Anyway, hope that helps.
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Last edited by ellepixie; 12-18-2010 at 10:07 PM.
unfortunately sweetie,
people hate old thread resurrection and you posted vids by someone who half this forum takes some issue with so that was a automatic non-welcoming approach. This forum is actually very friendly(mostly) and its a great place to learn and share. Hope you stick around...
Originally Posted by mzmillion



You know when you have an epic argument/ discussion with someone that happened a long time ago and people talked sh*t about it and started rumors and sh*t? Then someone that don't know you that well comes to you, not knowing that yall moved past the beef, and tried to tell you about yourself and how wrong you were. That's kind of what happened here
Originally Posted by CocoT

That's not exactly what happened. I'm new to this forum, so I really didn't know anything about any "beef" that may have happened here. All I was trying to do was help, I just want everyone to be able to understand that.
Originally Posted by Pkz120
The beef I was referring to was completely hypothetical. There's no beef here, at least I don't think so. Sorry about the confusion. I was just saying that that was what I thought when I saw your post.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds

-Albert Einstein
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Okay, basically, it all boils down to this. I am VERY new to this site. All I saw was someone using an ingredient that I did the research on and found that it didn't seem very good for our hair. It was all out of help, not trying to start controversy. I didn't even know anyone had an issue with the person I put up for the youtube link...I was just trying to help, that's it!
Originally Posted by Pkz120
Like I said, I truly do apologize. Thank you for coming back and explaining (and so we know you are real). No one has an issue with who you put up, it was more the "alarming" way you presented it. But I understand, you're new, we're on the internet. There are misunderstandings. My points about baking soda still stand though - hold on let me find the other thread where we talked about it...

Here it is! http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...in-rocked.html

Same thing as putting anything on your hair, just be sure of the effects and don't overdo it. Even supplements are bad if you OD on them, ya know? Anyway, hope that helps.
Originally Posted by ellepixie

You know what, I was looking at your little icon and was like "man her hair looks familiar!" Then I realized you're the girl I subscribed to on youtube!!! I love your hair lol! But yeah girl, I really appreciate you taking the time to really understand where I was coming and from, and not only that, but sharing some useful info with me! 'Preciate it!
Okay, basically, it all boils down to this. I am VERY new to this site. All I saw was someone using an ingredient that I did the research on and found that it didn't seem very good for our hair. It was all out of help, not trying to start controversy. I didn't even know anyone had an issue with the person I put up for the youtube link...I was just trying to help, that's it!
Originally Posted by Pkz120
Like I said, I truly do apologize. Thank you for coming back and explaining (and so we know you are real). No one has an issue with who you put up, it was more the "alarming" way you presented it. But I understand, you're new, we're on the internet. There are misunderstandings. My points about baking soda still stand though - hold on let me find the other thread where we talked about it...

Here it is! http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...in-rocked.html

Same thing as putting anything on your hair, just be sure of the effects and don't overdo it. Even supplements are bad if you OD on them, ya know? Anyway, hope that helps.
Originally Posted by ellepixie

You know what, I was looking at your little icon and was like "man her hair looks familiar!" Then I realized you're the girl I subscribed to on youtube!!! I love your hair lol! But yeah girl, I really appreciate you taking the time to really understand where I was coming and from, and not only that, but sharing some useful info with me! 'Preciate it!
Originally Posted by Pkz120
*Dies from laughter* Aw thanks, and yea, I can be a smarta$$ but when it's not warranted I will apologize. Oh...just so you know too...people often think people are trolls when they don't have any avatar picture. So even if you don't want to post one of yourself, it may be a good idea to just throw a sunset or a rainbow or some hair up in there or something.
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Like I said, I truly do apologize. Thank you for coming back and explaining (and so we know you are real). No one has an issue with who you put up, it was more the "alarming" way you presented it. But I understand, you're new, we're on the internet. There are misunderstandings. My points about baking soda still stand though - hold on let me find the other thread where we talked about it...

Here it is! http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...in-rocked.html

Same thing as putting anything on your hair, just be sure of the effects and don't overdo it. Even supplements are bad if you OD on them, ya know? Anyway, hope that helps.
Originally Posted by ellepixie

You know what, I was looking at your little icon and was like "man her hair looks familiar!" Then I realized you're the girl I subscribed to on youtube!!! I love your hair lol! But yeah girl, I really appreciate you taking the time to really understand where I was coming and from, and not only that, but sharing some useful info with me! 'Preciate it!
Originally Posted by Pkz120
*Dies from laughter* Aw thanks, and yea, I can be a smarta$$ but when it's not warranted I will apologize. Oh...just so you know too...people often think people are trolls when they don't have any avatar picture. So even if you don't want to post one of yourself, it may be a good idea to just throw a sunset or a rainbow or some hair up in there or something.
Originally Posted by ellepixie
Oooh ok, good idea! And thank you for the advice!

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