Texturizing...Is it bad?

I am just curious...Is texturizing your hair bad? I am asking b/c my hair is soooooooo oooooo tightly coiled I dont know what to do with it. I want to give my natural hair a chance (I BC'd 01/31/09) but it seems to have a carpet-like feel..

Any help would pe apprecited-- I dont want to go back to weaves and such
There are harmless conditioners out there that will (slightly) loosen your curl. I'd just tough it out right now and wait until it gets a little bit longer.
I'd wait before you texturize and see if you can figure out a good hair care regime. Tight coils are a shock to the system especially if you have no idea how to care for them. Invest in a good leave-in conditioner and deep conditioner and see what happens.

Texturizing your hair is another chemical process that if you decide you hate it and want it gone, you're going to have to BC AGAIN and it can have the same damaging effects as a relaxer.


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I think you should give it more time to grow out and try things like twists and twist outs or braiding at night to make it looser. Texlaxing is not bad but as someone who did it for years, I never new what my hair could do until I stopped texlaxing.
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I agree with the others. I think you should give it a little more time. Texurizing is basically a relaxer that is only left on for a few minutes, so it's easy to go beyond the point of texturizing and back into full blown relaxing due to having hairdressers that have no clue or don't embrace the concept (ask me how I know. LOL)

For me, I've made a vow that I'm not even going to think about texturizing this time.
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I texturize my hair (with a relaxer) and I can't give you and easy answer to your question but maybe my experiences might help you make up your mind:

I finished cutting off my processed ends (I had a Wave Nouveau) in June of last year. I had been hiding my hair under weaves and in braids for 18 months and pretty much did nothing to the hair except wash it every once and awhile so my hair was so dry, carpety, and unresponsive to products.

So I texturized. It took one virgin texturizer and 2 correctives to get my hair the way that I wanted it because chemicals scare me so much that I kept underprocessing. I did my last corrective in September '08.

To tell you the truth I can't tell the difference between my natural hair and my texturized hair (no line of demarcation), my hair is looser but still closer to 4a than 3c, and I treat my hair just like it is natural. I think that if I had taken the time out to do a intensive series of dcs that I might not have texturized when I did. Even now dc's make my hair look so much better and curlier.


So for the last couple of months I have been contemplating transitioning. But I found that I have been using lots of products to tame my hair and my hair has just not been agreeing with me.

So I just did my first official retouch a couple of days ago. I did it because my hair responds so much better when it is texturized so I can use much less product, my hair is much more manageable (the day prior to retouching I spend twenty minutes putting my hair up because it kept busting out of the banana clips I ordinarily use), and when my hair is texturized I can make it do what I want it to do instead of it controlling me. My texturizer makes my hair go from being cottony to being clumpy and coily so I can easily do a wash and go which is the style I prefer.

But the results from texturizing depend on how your hair is naturally and the chemical process so no two texturized heads will look exactly the same.

HTH

Last edited by vkb247; 02-07-2009 at 10:02 AM.
I know how you're feeling. It can be frustrating and exhausting. I tried a text back in 2007. The beautician ended up keeping the perm on my hair too long and basically straightened it. Try clay treatments or henna which will loosen your curl pattern. Keep your hair well moisturized and sealed. Let your hair grow out a few more months. Since you just BC'd the effects of a perm can still be in your hair. I've heard taking MSM regularly will soften your hair also. Run a search on this site for more info.
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Weekly Cleansers: Co-Wash - Suave Coconut or Yes to Cucumbers and Trader Joe's Nourish Spa. Giovanni 50-50 poo on scalp only.
Moisturizers: Mix of Giovanni Direct with AO Honey Suckle; KCKT; Jamaican Castor Oil, water.
Sealers: My whipped raw shea butter/oil blend.
Scalp Oil: Jojoba, Rosemary, Horsetail, Burdock Root, Aloe Vera Gel
Hairstyle: Protective.

Henndigo occasionally.
Natural curl softeners:

yogurt/honey/bananas
henna
Coconut/lime
Sour cream/lemons
baking soda (plenty of it)/conditioner - make sure to do a acv rinse after this to restore the pH balance
Thank you all for all of the responses...
I think I will try some of the natural relaxers VKB247 mentioned before t'laxing...

I just wanted to know what you all thought about it--thanks again
Hello! I posed a similar question a few months ago when I was considering texturizing. I decided not to, and my hair is doing alot better than it was at the time. The responses really helped me make my decision. Here's the link to the tread, I hope it helps!

Ladies...ive decided to texturize :( (Pretty long!)
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I am just curious...Is texturizing your hair bad? I am asking b/c my hair is soooooooo oooooo tightly coiled I dont know what to do with it. I want to give my natural hair a chance (I BC'd 01/31/09) but it seems to have a carpet-like feel..

Any help would pe apprecited-- I dont want to go back to weaves and such
Originally Posted by vmocha
You just have to find a routine. I'm big on working with what your got. When I first went natural, like most newbies, I was trying to get my hair to do what it couldn't. I've been natural for almost 9 years and self acceptance is the key. loose coils are not better than tight coils.


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I am just curious...Is texturizing your hair bad? I am asking b/c my hair is soooooooo oooooo tightly coiled I dont know what to do with it. I want to give my natural hair a chance (I BC'd 01/31/09) but it seems to have a carpet-like feel..

Any help would pe apprecited-- I dont want to go back to weaves and such
Originally Posted by vmocha
You just have to find a routine. I'm big on working with what your got. When I first went natural, like most newbies, I was trying to get my hair to do what it couldn't. I've been natural for almost 9 years and self acceptance is the key. loose coils are not better than tight coils.
Originally Posted by Trenell
I really love your response.
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Spend some time on YouTube. There are some amazing, AMAZING videos out there from women with tight coils!

I've found a few for you, but I'm sure you can find lots and lots more to inspire you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3oDzQGjbjU
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I'm glad to hear that you'll be trying a natural approach. I got a notable difference in my curl pattern after doing weekly, bi-weekly henna treatments. However I have not done a henna in close to a year and my curls have returned to the original pattern...but I still have the brownish/red color (depending on the light). I think that most natural curl loosener results are based on cumulative applications and you'll have to commit to doing applications as long you want the looser curl pattern....that's been my experience. I myself plan to start up more henna applications but I haven't been motivated and while I like the looser curl I'm also accepting of my tighter curl pattern.


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I am just curious...Is texturizing your hair bad? I am asking b/c my hair is soooooooo oooooo tightly coiled I dont know what to do with it. I want to give my natural hair a chance (I BC'd 01/31/09) but it seems to have a carpet-like feel..

Any help would pe apprecited-- I dont want to go back to weaves and such
Originally Posted by vmocha
I absolutely respect the experiences and words of the other posters.

However, let me share my experience with you:

My hair is like yours in it's super-natural state - so tightly coiled that you couldn't tell the difference between what was on my head and the carpet beneath your feet.

After doing the BC, using all sorts of natural products and natural processes (i.e. straw set), it got worse because the coils grew onto themselves like they were made of hooks. I'd had enough and decided to texturize - wow, what a difference!! My stylist has natural hair herself and left it on long enough to only briefly release the curl. With it, I could do so much more and it looked gorgeous when I wore it out.

I went for a long break between texturizers and you could tell. After taking my hair out of a protective style worn for months, I had it texturized again so I could do more with it. I do not have it texturized very often - it's worked out to about once a year, if that.

The point of my story is that you may find that, like things in life, if it's done in moderation you can get the best of both worlds. As one of the other posters mentioned, if you do decide to have it done, be sure they leave it on the correct amount of time. Too long and your hair won't do jack - it won't curl right and it might not straighten right either because it's been overprocessed. If it's not left on long enough, you won't be able to see/feel a difference and you might feel that you've wasted your money.
Thanks Ramen for sharing your story. I'll remember your good experience next time I get desperate and frustrated.
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My Routine.
Weekly Cleansers: Co-Wash - Suave Coconut or Yes to Cucumbers and Trader Joe's Nourish Spa. Giovanni 50-50 poo on scalp only.
Moisturizers: Mix of Giovanni Direct with AO Honey Suckle; KCKT; Jamaican Castor Oil, water.
Sealers: My whipped raw shea butter/oil blend.
Scalp Oil: Jojoba, Rosemary, Horsetail, Burdock Root, Aloe Vera Gel
Hairstyle: Protective.

Henndigo occasionally.
There are harmless conditioners out there that will (slightly) loosen your curl. I'd just tough it out right now and wait until it gets a little bit longer.
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I am just curious...Is texturizing your hair bad? I am asking b/c my hair is soooooooo oooooo tightly coiled I dont know what to do with it. I want to give my natural hair a chance (I BC'd 01/31/09) but it seems to have a carpet-like feel..

Any help would pe apprecited-- I dont want to go back to weaves and such
Originally Posted by vmocha
You just have to find a routine. I'm big on working with what your got. When I first went natural, like most newbies, I was trying to get my hair to do what it couldn't. I've been natural for almost 9 years and self acceptance is the key. loose coils are not better than tight coils.
Originally Posted by Trenell
i cannot thank you enough. this is so true, esp the bolded.

op, i think the first thing you can do for yourself is take a step back and take a deep breath.

i have been natural since 03 and it's been a journey to say the least! i've had growth, then breakage and now more growth than i've ever had in my life.

the first thing i did to help myself was to recognize what MY hair could do. i stopped thinking about what it could not do. yeah, xx's curls on whateverforum are cute and may be similar to mine, but my hair ain't gone never do that, so imma move on.

now, i'm not saying that you are doing that, but i know it's hard to see other 4 naturals with those loose curls and when you want your hair to do the same thing. it's almost like a je ne sais qois envy. you want your hair to do that, but you still 100% love what your hair can do.

i think when you find a couple of hair twins, get a moisturizing routine down and finaly know for sure what your hair CAN do, then it's time to texturize. the reason i say that is because if you do it now and don't know how to get your hair to respond now, it may be harded to take care of your hair being underprocessd -- what a texturizer really is.

when i first went natural, i though i was a 4b. additionally, my hair was rough, dry and would matt easily. i had NO idea how to take care of it. instead i kept my hair straightend and had so much heat damage that i lost a lot of my growth.

once i got my moisturizing and care routine down, my real texture came out and i was really 4a with some b. however, that carpet hair that i had completly disappered.

i say all of that to say, had someone told me my hair would be curly like it is now, i would have laughed them out of town.

do a search in the 4a section for progress pics. you'd be amazed at how length makes many of the ladies curls elongated and how mositure gives you the REAL picture of your hair. and with time you'll have versitility. when i want shrunken hair i can have shrunken, but i also have learned how to get my hair to hang.

either way, whatever decision you decide to make, you'll be well informed using the many resources at hand on this board and by asking others who have texturized about their experiences.

Last edited by kurlybella; 02-08-2009 at 06:06 PM.
Hey y'all--1st thanks sooo much for the responses!!
I did go ahead and TLax out of frustration and impatience.

LUCKILY my hair didnt noticably respond to it! I say luckily because I didnt really want to do it--but if you could have seen what was actually going on--it was absolutely ridiculous. My hair was unlike anything I had ever seen--even in he 4b section forums. So I felt a little helpless.

I was having a hard time accepting that out of all of the fotki's I have stalked (LOL) I had the "worst" and uncooperative hair. It was litterally matted, no matter what I put in it. JoJoba--Shea--Aubrey's Organic stuff--Henna treatment--EVOO (not all at the same time of course)

I wasnt trying to make my hair look like any specific persons but I just wanted it to look but I did want it better looking than what it was.

Needless to say---I went back to the hair dressers and just got more gel twists--Maybe I'll let the lock...maybe not. But locking is what I KNOW it can do...LOL

I am just curious...Is texturizing your hair bad? I am asking b/c my hair is soooooooo oooooo tightly coiled I dont know what to do with it. I want to give my natural hair a chance (I BC'd 01/31/09) but it seems to have a carpet-like feel..

Any help would pe apprecited-- I dont want to go back to weaves and such
Originally Posted by vmocha
I absolutely respect the experiences and words of the other posters.

However, let me share my experience with you:

My hair is like yours in it's super-natural state - so tightly coiled that you couldn't tell the difference between what was on my head and the carpet beneath your feet.

After doing the BC, using all sorts of natural products and natural processes (i.e. straw set), it got worse because the coils grew onto themselves like they were made of hooks. I'd had enough and decided to texturize - wow, what a difference!! My stylist has natural hair herself and left it on long enough to only briefly release the curl. With it, I could do so much more and it looked gorgeous when I wore it out.

I went for a long break between texturizers and you could tell. After taking my hair out of a protective style worn for months, I had it texturized again so I could do more with it. I do not have it texturized very often - it's worked out to about once a year, if that.

The point of my story is that you may find that, like things in life, if it's done in moderation you can get the best of both worlds. As one of the other posters mentioned, if you do decide to have it done, be sure they leave it on the correct amount of time. Too long and your hair won't do jack - it won't curl right and it might not straighten right either because it's been overprocessed. If it's not left on long enough, you won't be able to see/feel a difference and you might feel that you've wasted your money.
Originally Posted by ramen_noodles
Thanks for the response-do you have any pics?
Glad I was able to help. If you ever have any more questions, feel free to PM me.

Thanks Ramen for sharing your story. I'll remember your good experience next time I get desperate and frustrated.
Originally Posted by aricurl

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