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Prettycurls 07-11-2009 06:02 PM

Ayurvedic Herb Spinoff Thread
 
I decided to start this thread bc I am experimenting with a variety of ayurvedic herbs and I didn't want to "guano" Fleurtzy's thread on amla.


I started with amla and right now I am experimenting with brahmi.

Prettycurls 07-11-2009 06:16 PM

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I will say that the brahmi made my ends drier than the amla usually does. I did apply oils (don't know if my hair really likes them yet) to my ends before aplying the brahmi after washing my hair. Then I let the mixture sit for a few hours. I rinsed, co washed, and then rinsed again. The brahmi was easier to get out of my hair than the amla. I have no grit left behind.


I will say that when I applied the brahmi I did get larger curl definition than with amla. Amla made my hair wavier - with no curl.

I applied two conditioners, a glycerine mix (experiementing), and sealed with oils. I left that on overnight using a modified baggie method.

My hair is soft, but I still have it up in a pinapple so I am unsure how it looks down.


Here is a pic I took while the brahmi was in my hair.

Prettycurls 07-11-2009 06:17 PM

Today I have gotten some compliments on the thickness of my hair. I do have luster, but no shine.

vickiepickles 07-11-2009 10:15 PM

I have Tulsi, Orange Peel and Rose Petal and Neem powders. Not really sure how to use these. I know that they are beneficial to hair and skin, but not sure what the benefits are for hair other than being similar to Shikaki and Amla. If anyone knows, please let me know!:geek:

Prettycurls 07-11-2009 10:41 PM

Hey Vickiepickles,


I think the neem is a cleanser/antifungal/dandruff.

The orange is antiseptic.

Tulsi I am not sure.

Let me dig for some info on the other thread.

OnyxCabelo 07-11-2009 10:51 PM

Hey Prettycurls!

I just did a brahmi review on my blog - http://onyxcabelo.blogspot.com/

I liked my results from the brahmi powder - in fact, I'm going to try to incorporate it permanently into my routine. It was messy, but it felt worth it. Unfortunately, I didn't use enough powder my first try, so next time I will use more. As i mentioned in my blog, I had an itchy scalp prior to using it, and since using it - no itch:toothy1:. I also posted pictures there. Overall, I think it worked nicely. Now, I've never used alma, so that and shikaikai are next on my list to try.

Prettycurls 07-11-2009 10:51 PM

X post of info from amla thread
 
I was initially confused about Amla thinking that it was a shampoo, but now I have learned that it is a conditioner.

So far I have learned that Aritha, Neem, & Shikakai are all cleansers. Aritha adds strength and Neem is for deep cleansing.

Amla, Bringraj, Brhami, Triphala & Jatamansi all seem to be used as conditioners for moisture and growth.

Bringraj is considered the king of herbs for hair growth and it adds deep moisture.

Brahmi some say is drying, but it is good for growth as well.


I have kind of gathered from my limited research that the ratio of herb to water determines whether is acts as protein on the hair or as a moisturizer. I am trying to get more information about this.

I have also seen it discussed that certain herbs should be mixed in order to counteract those effects. Like Brhami should be mixed with Amla to countereffect its drying. Or Neem should be mixed with Bringraj to do the same.


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From Dette's post:

Aritha Powder has the following advantages:

- Cleans skin thoroughly
- Excellent as a natural shampoo
- Gives hair natural floss and bounce

-adds strength


Amla Powder has the following advantages:
- Promotes hair growth
- Controls hair fall
- Cures scalp infection
- Controls premature graying of hair

-moisturizing??
-may be drying (has malic acid)

Shikakai Powder has the following advantages:
- Provides new life to hair strands
- Strengthens hair roots
- Increases bounchiness and silkiness of hair
- Clears dandruff
- Keeps the scalp clean and cool.

a good cleanser. It has a natural low pH, is extremely mild, and doesn't strip hair of natural oils. Usually no rinse or conditioner is used since shikakai also acts as a detangler


Brahmi Powder (most potent hair vitalizer)
- Cools the scalp and induces sound sleep, Controls dandruff, Makes hair long, dark, Dense & lustrous , strengthens hair roots, -can be drying??

Bringrai Oil - removes graying, balding, makes the hair darker, and promotes deep sleep. Externally, it draws out poisons and reduces inflammations and swollen glands. It also improves complexion.

Bringraj Powder - Bringraj is considered the king of herbs for hair growth and it adds deep moisture. Also helps with premature graying, balding and alopecia when taken internally and used topically on the scalp.


Neem Ė deep cleaning.

Neem oil - used in hair loss and early graying. Also fights dandruff.

Kalpitone Powder -Kalpitone Powder is used to get Dark, Dandruff Free hair. Kalpi Tone Powder has the following advantages: Gives a dark tinge to the hair. Strengthens hair roots and promotes hair growth.

Triphala & Jatamansi are said to be conditioners for moisture and growth, but I didnít find anything on them.

Hesh Heenara - Mehendi Leaves (36%), Maka Leaves (9%), Shikakai Fruit, Amla Fruit (5%), Methi Seed, Narangi Chal, Neem Leaves, Kumari Leaves, Japakusum Flower, Mandoor Powder, Behda Fruit, Kapur Kachli Stem, Brahmi Leaves, Harde Fruit, Chandan, Sugandhi Dravya.

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From Afrosheenqueen:

Hibiscus - In Ayurvedic medicine, hibiscus petal is was used to stimulate thicker hair growth and to prevent premature graying, hair loss and scalp disorders. It acts as a natural emollient hair conditioner and can be used in hair washes, treatments and vinegar rinses for the hair. Use it in combination with brahmi and amla extracts. It has also been long used as a mild shampoo in for babies.


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OnyxCabelo 07-11-2009 10:58 PM

I have used hibiscus and marshmallow root tea as a rinse, and my hair loved it. Now that I think of it - I have no idea why i stopped using them. Must have been pj'ism:roll:. Anyway, I think I will revisit these two with the brahmi powder the next time i deep condition. I'm guessing the hibiscus and marshmallow root will also counter the drying effect of the brahmi. When I used my brahmi though - I mixed it with honey and EVOO, and I didn't really notice any dryness - perhaps that comes with continued use.

Prettycurls 07-11-2009 11:06 PM

More herb info
 
From Stephanie198907 on Tulsi:

Hesh Tulsi powder has the following advantages.
-Anti dandruff and anti bacterial
-protects and moisurizes skin
-anti pollutant

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EkuaSoul on Kalpi Tone

- Gives a natural black tinge to the hair
- May help to strengthen hair roots
- Promotes hair growth
- Controls hair loss and premature greying

Ingredients: Amla Fruit (10%), Maka Leaves (10%), Mandoor (10%), Japakusum Flower (9%), Narangichal (8%), Shikakai Fruit (7%), Kumari Leaves (7%), Kapoor Kachli (6%), Brahmi Leaves (5%), Methi Seed (5%), Wala (5%), Khadir Stem (3%), Chandan (2%), Neem Leaves, Sitaphal Seed Powder, Sugandhi Dravya.



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Chandan - Smells heavenly! Conditions and helps darken hair.
Til (sesame) - Promotes hair growth, darkens hair,sunscreen.

Prettycurls 07-11-2009 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OnyxCabelo (Post 1024420)
Hey Prettycurls!

I just did a brahmi review on my blog - http://onyxcabelo.blogspot.com/

I liked my results from the brahmi powder - in fact, I'm going to try to incorporate it permanently into my routine. It was messy, but it felt worth it. Unfortunately, I didn't use enough powder my first try, so next time I will use more. As i mentioned in my blog, I had an itchy scalp prior to using it, and since using it - no itch:toothy1:. I also posted pictures there. Overall, I think it worked nicely. Now, I've never used alma, so that and shikaikai are next on my list to try.


Hello OnyxCabelo!

Thanks for posting and sharing. I will definitely go and read your article.

I don't think I used enough either. I was trying to make it stretch...and you are right it is messier than amla, but I found it easier to get it all out.

Prettycurls 07-11-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OnyxCabelo (Post 1024427)
I have used hibiscus and marshmallow root tea as a rinse, and my hair loved it. Now that I think of it - I have no idea why i stopped using them. Must have been pj'ism:roll:. Anyway, I think I will revisit these two with the brahmi powder the next time i deep condition. I'm guessing the hibiscus and marshmallow root will also counter the drying effect of the brahmi. When I used my brahmi though - I mixed it with honey and EVOO, and I didn't really notice any dryness - perhaps that comes with continued use.


Thanks for sharing your blog entry. I went back and read it and I am happy that you got a good result. Your hair looks really nice!


I have heard about the marshmallow - I think WildcurlsRaquelle mentioned it, but I haven't ventured to try it yet.

Regarding the softness of your hand - I have heard that brahmi - just like amla is good for the skin. Amla I think is more of an exfoliator bc of all the acids in it, but brahmi is supposed to increase circulation and repair/grow skin, nails, and hair.

OnyxCabelo 07-11-2009 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Prettycurls (Post 1024442)
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Originally Posted by OnyxCabelo (Post 1024427)
I have used hibiscus and marshmallow root tea as a rinse, and my hair loved it. Now that I think of it - I have no idea why i stopped using them. Must have been pj'ism:roll:. Anyway, I think I will revisit these two with the brahmi powder the next time i deep condition. I'm guessing the hibiscus and marshmallow root will also counter the drying effect of the brahmi. When I used my brahmi though - I mixed it with honey and EVOO, and I didn't really notice any dryness - perhaps that comes with continued use.


Thanks for sharing your blog entry. I went back and read it and I am happy that you got a good result. Your hair looks really nice!


I have heard about the marshmallow - I think WildcurlsRaquelle mentioned it, but I haven't ventured to try it yet.

Regarding the softness of your hand - I have heard that brahmi - just like amla is good for the skin. Amla I think is more of an exfoliator bc of all the acids in it, but brahmi is supposed to increase circulation and repair/grow skin, nails, and hair.

Thank you!! And thank you for providing all this great information!! I'm really excited to try a number of the herbs you've listed.

It's interesting that you listed that brahmi cools the scalp, because that is exactly what it did for me when it stopped the itchy scalp issue. Now if the Bringraj works like you've listed above then I'm sold! I won't need anything else in my routine, but ayurvedic herbs!

vickiepickles 07-12-2009 01:24 AM

Thank you for the info!:tweety:

Tiggilene 07-12-2009 02:23 AM

Hey, ladies, what about cassia?

I want to use this on my hair instead of henna for a conditioner/curl manager/moisturizer, but am not sure about it. I've used Amla and it made my hair a bit easier to comb, but is cassia better?

I got some info from the LONG henna thread and tried henna (3x) a year ago. It left my hair kinda dry and a bit reddish, so I'm worried about cassia will do the same (minus the color).

Any ideas? Should I try Light Mountain or order from Catherine at mehandi? Does it matter?

I wanna make the most of my Darcy B haul. Thankx!

lalapixie 07-12-2009 07:47 AM

does anyone know anything about lotus root powder? one of the mehndi sites advertises it for hair but doesn't give much detail on exactly how it's beneficial.

Ronnieaj 07-12-2009 11:16 AM

I use my powders as tea rinses. The last one I made was a mix of amla, brahmi and fenugreek (methi) powders, which I put into a coffee filter so I didn't have to worry about rinsing all the grit out. I've also mixed kalpi tone into my co-wash conditioner and used that, as well as shikakai and amla mixed into my Creme of Nature shampoo as my Saturday wash. I mix aritha and neem for one-use rinses or washes only, as they are very cleansing and can be drying (I use them as a clarifying shampoo once every 6-8 weeks, shikakai the rest of the time). I also have an ayurvedic poo bar which I love, and often prepoo overnight with shikakai oil on the scalp and vatika oil on the lengths, and add brahmi amla and bhringraj oils to my deep conditioners. WHEW!! Sorry for the long rant there!!

OnyxCabelo 07-12-2009 11:43 AM

Tiggilene - I have never personally used cassia - I've definitely used henna though, so I know what you are talking about. From what i have heard cassia it is very similar to henna in terms of conditioning, so my guess is that you may very likely have a similar experience to henna minus the red color. I did recently receive some cassia as a gift (Thank you, FCC), so I will probably be trying it some time in the near future - we shall see. If i do, I'll let you know my results.

lalapixie - this is the only thing I could find on Lotus Root, but you may have already seen this. It actually says Lotus flower extract - perhaps these are two different things. Anyway, the other information seemed interesting too, so I thought I'd post it http://www.cibuinternational.com/glossary.htm.

Ronnieaj - Where do you get your oils from? I'm really interested in getting the bhringraj oil and also the bhringraj powder.

Ronnieaj 07-12-2009 12:24 PM

I try to get them from my local Indian grocers, but if I have to go online, try here:

http://www.garrysun.com/oils.html

Stephanie198907 07-12-2009 03:44 PM

Im doing another Amla treatment this week but in honor of the new thread I tossed in some rose petal powder to the mix. I didn't mix equal parts buts its a sufficient amount, enough to notice a difference in my hair after I rinse. I'll report back if my hair feels any different than it normally does with just the amla.

Prettycurls 07-12-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OnyxCabelo (Post 1024445)
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Originally Posted by Prettycurls (Post 1024442)
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Originally Posted by OnyxCabelo (Post 1024427)
I have used hibiscus and marshmallow root tea as a rinse, and my hair loved it. Now that I think of it - I have no idea why i stopped using them. Must have been pj'ism:roll:. Anyway, I think I will revisit these two with the brahmi powder the next time i deep condition. I'm guessing the hibiscus and marshmallow root will also counter the drying effect of the brahmi. When I used my brahmi though - I mixed it with honey and EVOO, and I didn't really notice any dryness - perhaps that comes with continued use.


Thanks for sharing your blog entry. I went back and read it and I am happy that you got a good result. Your hair looks really nice!


I have heard about the marshmallow - I think WildcurlsRaquelle mentioned it, but I haven't ventured to try it yet.

Regarding the softness of your hand - I have heard that brahmi - just like amla is good for the skin. Amla I think is more of an exfoliator bc of all the acids in it, but brahmi is supposed to increase circulation and repair/grow skin, nails, and hair.

Thank you!! And thank you for providing all this great information!! I'm really excited to try a number of the herbs you've listed.

It's interesting that you listed that brahmi cools the scalp, because that is exactly what it did for me when it stopped the itchy scalp issue. Now if the Bringraj works like you've listed above then I'm sold! I won't need anything else in my routine, but ayurvedic herbs!


I agree!


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