Does it look like I have a curly perm?

Unforunatly....I dont have a picture right now. But I just wanted to share this with you all, and maybe some of you have had this reaction as well from people.
My hair is 3b,3c and 4a. the 3b is at the crown and as my hair goes back the curl gets smaller, so my smallest curls/waves are in the back and on the sides. I guess most of this has to do with me being african american..but people seem to think I have a texturizer, a curly perm, or that this curly hair is a weave?!?! I dont get that. My hair looks very natural,the curls arent all manicured and perfect ringlets, but two people today have asked if it was my natural hair, I had told them that I had transitioned and now I wear it natural...and then they ask if it's texturized or some sort of perm and then they get this confused kinda look then, oh that's nice, really thats your natural hair... it's cute.

I thank them for the compliment, but I thought looked natural. I guess this goes back to some other things that I dont feel like mentioning, but what does a black woman(note- I know that my signature says I'm black native american creole and white,but being mixed in america, especily when it's not directly your mom and dad, you know what i meant in that statment) have to do to be seen as natural. It doesnt bother me that much, but really, if your hair is long, most women probley assume it's a weave of some sort, If it's curly it's a texturizer, if it's a lighter color it's dyed...I mean what does a 'normal' african american woman hair look like?

I remember a little girl asked if my hair was a weave, and some people ask if I'm still going natural...now my hair looks alot differnt. Before I transitioned I wore it straight and it was at my shoulders, I did a BC that left me like 3 to 4 inches of hair and it's curly/wavy and that's how I wear it, then some people ASK if I cut it? like how else would I get it this short, and I guess the people that asked that also thought I curled my hair somehow-then i tell them I CUT it and I went NATURAL, they ask why...it's just crazy...its' just baffleing to me!- even my aunt whos hair is similar to my texture asked me what kind or curl do I have. the lady who asked me today, then asked me who my daddy was, it was funny at the time but it's like d*mn, I dont want to have to go through my family history and give a discrition of the native american creole and white in my family to explain why my hair doesnt look like people expect an african american woman hair to look like. Does any body else know what I'm talking about?
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African American-to be more specific, Black Native american, White and Creole.
3b,c and 4a hair
I now what your talking about. I think some people (including some black people) have a stereotypical view of what African Americans "should" look like. And if you don't fit the stereotype, confusion ensues. Also, so few black women wear their hair natural, so people don't get to see the true natural variety of hair textures that African Americans actually have.
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Thank you! I wasnt sure what type of respone I was going to get. and the main people who are asking me and acusing me of having some sort of something done are 'black' people. The lady today said she wished her hair did that and that good....I'm glad she didnt add hair to that because I cant stand the whole 'good hair' thing...also I just didnt think my hair was far from what most african americans hair looks like. they arent big juicy curls, like tracee ellis ross-I could see people asking me that then because when people do texturize sometimes it comes out looking like that. I'm in college right now and I go to an HBCU(historicly black college) and I"m glad that kind of alot of girls are natural and have all sort of textures, but when I can back with my newly cut hair I got all the questions. An asian friend of mine asked it I have naturally curly hair because she's normaly seen me with my relaxed hair, but I didnt really expect her to even understand that pretty much all african americans have curly hair (no matter the size)and it's just that it's the straight hair that the questioned should asked for.
African American-to be more specific, Black Native american, White and Creole.
3b,c and 4a hair
I know what you are talking about. When I was permed my hair was curly in a 3b/3a way so people assumed that was my natural hair because my father is hispanic. I was annoyed by this but just thought whatever about it. I thought when I go natural people will know its my real hair. Well a few days after my BC I went to my friends b-day and about 3 people thought it was either a weave or a curly perm. My friends brother thought it was a weave. It was freakin 5 inches long streched for goodness sakes. There is no winning with some poeple so just do you.
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It's funny that you posted this. I walked by 2 natural girls (4b's, I think) on my way to class this afternoon. One of them muttered under her breath, "Everybody trynin' be natural like us. Look at that naturally curly weave right there." [pointing at me]

Immaturity, I swear.....but it's not like it's the first time I've heard a derogatory comment about my hair.
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It's funny that you posted this. I walked by 2 natural girls (4b's, I think) on my way to class this afternoon. One of them muttered under her breath, "Everybody trynin' be natural like us. Look at that naturally curly weave right there." [pointing at me]

Immaturity, I swear.....but it's not like it's the first time I've heard a derogatory comment about my hair.
Originally Posted by Curly1908
Take it as a compliment.
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hondunrancurly123- I feel you,I mean who would wear a 3 to 5 inch curly weave???
curly1908- I would have said something to those girls! I mean it's not our fault that our hair textures are the way they are! I would have been like "oh please forgive me for not having you hair texture...I'm sorry that I have a looser curl texture than you and YOU think it's fake!

as you can see I tend to what to say things to people when they start assuming things, especily when it based off of sterotypes.
African American-to be more specific, Black Native american, White and Creole.
3b,c and 4a hair
I have gotten my fair share of texturizer questions...especially considering my choice of haircut. It used to annoy the hell out of me to the point that I would cuss people out...but the more I thought about it, the more I realized people just don't know...when you've been taught natural hair is nappy and you've been perming all your life, you just don't know.

I used to go into detail about my father being a black-skinned Latino and my texture coming from his side...but the more I thought about that, the more I realized I sounded just as dumb as them! Giving my father all the credit as if my mother didnít play a role in creating me? Constantly reminding folks that i'm Puerto Rican only reinforced the idea that "good hair" only happens through mixing. The bottom line is people of African descent have curly hair...no matter where they are on the globe.

As I got more into the hair boards, I realized the texuturizer question wasnít that bogus a claim. When I observed the constant texture talk and obvious texturizers being passed off as natural, I realized people arenít that out of line for asking. The truth of the matter is many do texturize.

I dunno. I find the texturizer questions annoying, I find the war between curly/nappy ridiculous, I find it ludacris that curls only come through "mixed," but when you have a group of people that are dedicated to the mantra of "good hair" what else is supposed to happen?
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I agree
And it's also sad that people have this idea and mixed people have this..and black people have that. I know many mixed people, with two parents of differnt races or with mixture from both sides who dont have the type of hair that people seem to fawn over. Its almost like a damned if you do damned if you dont.
when you say no this is my natural hair, then they want to know 'what' you are, because 'obviously' they thought you were like them, but since your hair is curly and you say it's your you cant be 'just black' like they say they are...and it would be a lie to not say what you are mixed with
or when you say no this is my natural hair and you ignore the what are you question, they ususally start this whole 'good hair' thing because here you are saying you are the same as them yet you miraclously have this curly hair that they dont.

but I can really understand your point about people being taught that 'black people hair' is nappy and should be permed, I cant tell you how many people i've talked to who have been permed all their life and tel me how nappy their hair is, yet they've never even seen their natural hair texture...but then cant believe me for my hair being the way it is...in reality it's like, you hair might be and probley is the same as mine!

and I think it's funny you talk about your father...because the lady asked me today whos my daddy?..I mean for all she knew it could have came from my mom! when i was in highschool most kids somehow knew I was mixed but they thought it was because my mom was white or half white and they thought my dad was like jamacian... Neither is true, Even the lady who used to relax my hair ever 4 weeks asked if it was mine

also most people only consider 3c hair type curly...even though 4a and 4b are curly just on a smaller scale the people we are talking about just consider that nappy and dont even pay attention to if it's wavy or curly.
African American-to be more specific, Black Native american, White and Creole.
3b,c and 4a hair
also most people only consider 3c hair type curly...even though 4a and 4b are curly just on a smaller scale the people we are talking about just consider that nappy and dont even pay attention to if it's wavy or curly.
Originally Posted by curlywavybeauty
Exactly. That's why as a "4a," I don't get caught up in "oh my hair is coily" because most people are just going to consider it some nappy hair. My texture is always the first thing I mention when describing my hair texture, before the curl/coil pattern. No one ever asks me if I have a texturizer, BTW.

But other kinky haired folks do sometimes ask me how it got my hair like "that."
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I think people's termonalogy is off when it comes to hair. I call my sisters hair curly and she's 4a and her spiral curls are tiny, like a coffee stirer.
I just think people negativly clump 'black people hair' together and that's probley why this problem with the assuming people have weaves or texturizers started, because someone thought 'all black people' have 'nappy' hair but your is 'curly' when in real life the curl is just bigger and it makes people look like asses. It does bother me, not because I cant believe they are asking me this or that, but because we know this comes from miseducation and other self imposed sterotypes
African American-to be more specific, Black Native american, White and Creole.
3b,c and 4a hair
curlywavybeauty, I know EXACTLY what you are talking about. Ironically, and I've mentioned this before, when I was still relaxed most people seemed to have assumed my hair was natural when I wore my wash n gos. Once I went completely natural and super short, it was automatically assumed that I had a texturizer. Now that my hair is growing, some have even asked if it is a curly perm. It is a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation.
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I'm so glad I'm not the only one to be asked these questions, I just thought that my hair was curly wavy and textured enough that it looked natural.
African American-to be more specific, Black Native american, White and Creole.
3b,c and 4a hair
Lol, this thread made me laugh. Yesterday, the girl at the drive thru said, "Oh, I love your hair, is that a texturizer?" I said, "No, I wear my hair natural" The look on her face was kind of a mixture of "yeah right" and "whatever" I just kept it moving, no need to go through lengthy explainations and part my puff so that she can inspect my roots. If she feels better thinking that I have a texturizer, far be it from me to destroy her bliss.
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lol
African American-to be more specific, Black Native american, White and Creole.
3b,c and 4a hair
I forgot to add this is probley like the times when people who mistake me for someone who's half white, that provokes me to ask the same question "do I look half white" lol, I mean yea I'm mixed with black native american and white and creole, but I dont look like your sterotypical Mya,Mariah, or lisa bonnet. I guess that goes with people expecting one thing from african americans and any variation confuses them.
African American-to be more specific, Black Native american, White and Creole.
3b,c and 4a hair
I was at the beauty supply yesterday and the guy ringing me up said "Oh I like your waves, you have a nice perm". And I told him that I do not have a perm and he said well how do you get your hair like that? You must use beeswax. And I told him no, it is just the way that my hair grows out of my head. And he had the most confused look on his face. It does not bother me. It is actually funny to see the confused looks on peoples faces. And being that I am so dark is even more confusing to them because, we have been taught that only mixed people have curly hair.
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or more so we've been taught that only lightskinned people have curly hair...majority of people dont understand of think that a person could be dark brown and be mixed. My boyfriend always gets asked if he has an s-curl. I think alot of people dont understand genes and that skin and hair genes dont 'go' together they are separte genes.
African American-to be more specific, Black Native american, White and Creole.
3b,c and 4a hair
I asked someone that question because I wanted to imitate that look. Luckily she wasn't offended. I have natural hair, when I wear a double strand twist out people ask if I have a weave. It never occurred to me be offended. I think it lets them know that they can acheive a particular look naturally. Besides there are some people who acheive a curly look with a texturizer e.g. some Curve Salon customers, you just happen not to be one of those people. Although you're natural, you are rocking a different look. It's new to people and they are going to ask questions. I doubt most of those people are being malicious, maybe just ignorant.
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