Picture thread attempt 4a, pen spring ladies

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Here is my lil one`s hair she has pen springs all over not sure if you can see in this pic her hair is over a week old since wash day (washing tomorrow) check her out
Big Chop August 23,2008 myself&two daughters
Fia`s system:3c/4aMii
INSANITY WORKOUT week 3 Day 1 7lbs lost to date
Her hair is gorgeous, thanks for sharing the pic.
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i'm a mix of 4a/b but here's a shot of a coil. they're spread sporadically throughout my head though lol. i wish my hair was all one type. lol. the crown is only wavy. almost no curliness. sniffles. oh wells, what can you do?

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I have tiny coils. My back is APL, and coils gotten a little larger with time. My fotki is not updated, but will ad pics soon.

This youtuber has beautiful hair, tiny coils:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sBz0...e=channel_page
Originally Posted by springyhead
Your hair is SO pretty.
I hope I didn't offend anyone by replying since I still have a relaxer.

Are those the type of 4a curls that is being asked about in this thread?
Originally Posted by SpoiledCoil

Your hair is pretty! Happy transitioning!
Originally Posted by Shinky
Hi Shinky!!!!!
Her hair is gorgeous, thanks for sharing the pic.
Originally Posted by lashon20
Thank you she loves her hair and it is very healthy.I pray she keeps her confidence forever.My older daughter has alot more mixtures but some pen springs too i will have to find and post her pic too
Big Chop August 23,2008 myself&two daughters
Fia`s system:3c/4aMii
INSANITY WORKOUT week 3 Day 1 7lbs lost to date
I think my curl is a little bigger than yours but have you tried putting your hair in loose ponytails when you sleep? I saw that in SuburbanBushbabe's album a while ago and I eventually started trying it. I put my hair in two pigtails in the middle of my head, secured with satin scrunchies. I then cover them with a satin bonnet. When I wake up, I take them out, fluff it out and add some KBB hair milk to the smashed parts (although I will be discontinuing this product soon) and my hair almost hits my shoulders. Otherwise, it would shrink to chin length or higher. I've also noticed that lighter products help. I thought heavier products would help the curl hang but they don't do that for me.

OP, thanks for posting this. This is a great thread! My hair is passed my shoulders stretched but I believe the circumference is around pencil-drinking straw size. I live in NYC as well and have also had other naturals what I put in my hair to make it curl. Sometimes it bothers me b/c...well...why would you assume I have altered my hair lol?! I think a better question would be: "does your hair curl naturally?"

Just a thought

Thanks for the compliment
For a while I've been wanting to post a "shrinkage challenge" thread on here because I swear I have the most shrinkage I've ever seen and I've peeped an awful lot of fotkis...lol. Its the damn springs I tell ya! But I am happy with my hair, if I treat it right it does have a lot of shine and is soft
Originally Posted by mochalatta408
I have tiny coils. My back is APL, and coils gotten a little larger with time. My fotki is not updated, but will ad pics soon.

This youtuber has beautiful hair, tiny coils:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sBz0...e=channel_page
Originally Posted by springyhead
Your hair is SO pretty.
Originally Posted by Yonnabelle

Thanks yonnabelle.

I recently added pics to my siggy, so i'm sharing with the pen spring crew!
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i'm a mix of 4a/b but here's a shot of a coil. they're spread sporadically throughout my head though lol. i wish my hair was all one type. lol. the crown is only wavy. almost no curliness. sniffles. oh wells, what can you do?

Originally Posted by xtremelyperfect

Xtremelyperfect,
You and I must be hair twins, because my hair is the exact same way. I have no curls in the front just waves. Pen coils throughout the rest of my hair.
Its good to know I'm not alone in this journey and there is someone that has similar hair to mine.

Jay
4b
Last Relaxer: Feb 2007
BC: Jun 2008
6 month protective style: 10/10-4/11
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woot! someone can relate lol. it's really sad when i do twists too because the rest of my hair holds and the top of my head won't. the twists come undone. womp womp lololol.
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Bumping an old thread! After much frustration with my hair, I've realized it's not so much curly as it is EXTREMELY coily. So I have a question for the coily ladies - anyone have problems with their ends tangling like crazy? the little Os in my head are going nuts and are SO tough to detangle. Am I doing something wrong? The ends tangle even after my hair is detangled! Is it not moisturized enough?

I'm tired of living in tangle city!

ETA: also, what are you all doing for best results for clumping/defining? My hair is fine so my twist outs look awkward. And anyone with pen springs using henna? how have the results been?
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Hair: 4a fine but dense
Working on: porosity issues, growing out heat damage, dryness
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Last edited by kinkyncurly; 10-21-2010 at 11:43 PM. Reason: because I have too many questions!
idk, i would not consider rustic beauty 4a i consider her a 4b...4a curls look like this (in my opinion)

i mean...atleast that is kind of what my hair looks like. but there are different types of 4a i guess? *shrugs*
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Bumping an old thread! After much frustration with my hair, I've realized it's not so much curly as it is EXTREMELY coily. So I have a question for the coily ladies - anyone have problems with their ends tangling like crazy? the little Os in my head are going nuts and are SO tough to detangle. Am I doing something wrong? The ends tangle even after my hair is detangled! Is it not moisturized enough?

I'm tired of living in tangle city!

ETA: also, what are you all doing for best results for clumping/defining? My hair is fine so my twist outs look awkward. And anyone with pen springs using henna? how have the results been?
Originally Posted by kinkyncurly
Love this thread! Thanks for bumping it. If you still have relaxed ends, they could be part of your problem. Getting the relaxed ends cut definitely helped me a little with my ends tangling, however, I still get tangles and single strand knots. I'm just learning to accept it and trying to find products that help. I had these problems when relaxed too. I use Qhemet products mostly, and the cocoa detangler works well for me and helps define. I only tried henna once and it was not a good experience or product/brand. Will try again in the future. Also, I know what you mean about still having tangles after you detangle. Super coily hair seems to do this. What worries me is it seems to get worse with length. My pen spring curls pic
My Fotki: http://public.fotki.com/dmarie21/
Porocity: totally sinkable
Texture: fine to med fine (stand size pic)
Products I Like: Qhemet--Cocoa Tree Detangling Ghee, Olive & Honey Hydrating Balm mixed with Burdock Root Cream, Vatika, apple cider vinegar rinse, Baba de Caracol, CON Argan shampoo
Searching For: better understanding of what my hair is all about
Bumping an old thread! After much frustration with my hair, I've realized it's not so much curly as it is EXTREMELY coily. So I have a question for the coily ladies - anyone have problems with their ends tangling like crazy? the little Os in my head are going nuts and are SO tough to detangle. Am I doing something wrong? The ends tangle even after my hair is detangled! Is it not moisturized enough?

I'm tired of living in tangle city!

ETA: also, what are you all doing for best results for clumping/defining? My hair is fine so my twist outs look awkward. And anyone with pen springs using henna? how have the results been?
Originally Posted by kinkyncurly
Love this thread! Thanks for bumping it. If you still have relaxed ends, they could be part of your problem. Getting the relaxed ends cut definitely helped me a little with my ends tangling, however, I still get tangles and single strand knots. I'm just learning to accept it and trying to find products that help. I had these problems when relaxed too. I use Qhemet products mostly, and the cocoa detangler works well for me and helps define. I only tried henna once and it was not a good experience or product/brand. Will try again in the future. Also, I know what you mean about still having tangles after you detangle. Super coily hair seems to do this. What worries me is it seems to get worse with length. My pen spring curls pic
Originally Posted by dmarie21
thanks! I have problems with my relaxed ends, but the problem is also where I'm completely natural. Due to an asymmetrical bob "mini chop", everywhere from the middle of my ear on back is completely natural. I'm going to try the cocoa detangling ghee - thanks for the recommendation!

I was hoping henna may help to stretch the coils - I think the problem comes from them being so springy that when I pull them out and they bounce back, they bounce back into other coils and tangle.

btw, added you to my fotki. I love your hair!
Transitioning!

BC Date: January 8th, 2011!
Hair: 4a fine but dense
Working on: porosity issues, growing out heat damage, dryness
Fotki link in profile
I'm not a 4a, since my coils don't clump together, but I do have pen spring, coffee stirrer size coils. Here are a few shots. They're not the clearest, but hope they suffice.

I'd love to find my hair twin.






Bumping an old thread! After much frustration with my hair, I've realized it's not so much curly as it is EXTREMELY coily. So I have a question for the coily ladies - anyone have problems with their ends tangling like crazy? the little Os in my head are going nuts and are SO tough to detangle. Am I doing something wrong? The ends tangle even after my hair is detangled! Is it not moisturized enough?

I'm tired of living in tangle city!

ETA: also, what are you all doing for best results for clumping/defining? My hair is fine so my twist outs look awkward. And anyone with pen springs using henna? how have the results been?
Originally Posted by kinkyncurly
Love this thread! Thanks for bumping it. If you still have relaxed ends, they could be part of your problem. Getting the relaxed ends cut definitely helped me a little with my ends tangling, however, I still get tangles and single strand knots. I'm just learning to accept it and trying to find products that help. I had these problems when relaxed too. I use Qhemet products mostly, and the cocoa detangler works well for me and helps define. I only tried henna once and it was not a good experience or product/brand. Will try again in the future. Also, I know what you mean about still having tangles after you detangle. Super coily hair seems to do this. What worries me is it seems to get worse with length. My pen spring curls pic
Originally Posted by dmarie21

My pen spring curls look similar to yours. My hair is very coily and it seems as soon as I detangle my hair it coils right back up and is tangled again. I definitely notice that since my hair has been growing it gets worse. I am trying to use more moisturizing products to help with this. Also recently I've stopped using shampoo as much as I did in the past because this makes the tangles even worse
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Bumping an old thread! After much frustration with my hair, I've realized it's not so much curly as it is EXTREMELY coily. So I have a question for the coily ladies - anyone have problems with their ends tangling like crazy? the little Os in my head are going nuts and are SO tough to detangle. Am I doing something wrong? The ends tangle even after my hair is detangled! Is it not moisturized enough?

I'm tired of living in tangle city!

ETA: also, what are you all doing for best results for clumping/defining? My hair is fine so my twist outs look awkward. And anyone with pen springs using henna? how have the results been?
Originally Posted by kinkyncurly
Love this thread! Thanks for bumping it. If you still have relaxed ends, they could be part of your problem. Getting the relaxed ends cut definitely helped me a little with my ends tangling, however, I still get tangles and single strand knots. I'm just learning to accept it and trying to find products that help. I had these problems when relaxed too. I use Qhemet products mostly, and the cocoa detangler works well for me and helps define. I only tried henna once and it was not a good experience or product/brand. Will try again in the future. Also, I know what you mean about still having tangles after you detangle. Super coily hair seems to do this. What worries me is it seems to get worse with length. My pen spring curls pic
Originally Posted by dmarie21

My pen spring curls look similar to yours. My hair is very coily and it seems as soon as I detangle my hair it coils right back up and is tangled again. I definitely notice that since my hair has been growing it gets worse. I am trying to use more moisturizing products to help with this. Also recently I've stopped using shampoo as much as I did in the past because this makes the tangles even worse
Originally Posted by krazy coils
Oh wow, this does NOT make me excited for the future. So the problem only gets worse, not better???
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BC Date: January 8th, 2011!
Hair: 4a fine but dense
Working on: porosity issues, growing out heat damage, dryness
Fotki link in profile
Oh wow, this does NOT make me excited for the future. So the problem only gets worse, not better???
Originally Posted by kinkyncurly
Yeah, sorry, but it's getting worse. I know some people with this kind of hair wash in braids to help decrease tangles. I actually used to do that when I was relaxed (BSL) b/c of tangles. And again, the longer it got--the worse the tangles. YTC (new formula) is what I'm currently using, and it only works well if I use both YTC shampoo and YTC conditoner. Cowashing just doesn't work for me and I agree with Krazy Coils about some shampoos making it completely worse!

I do know I can't sit for hours to detangle my hair. Right now it takes me 1 hour--and that's too freakin' much--and I literally have to slather on the products and section (after washing) into maybe 8 parts. So what to do? I'm thinking of washing 2-3 times a week. Theory is doing it more often will cut down on the tangles b/c going longer than 1-week definitely makes it worse. I don't freakin' know. Ughhhhh. Sorry to be so ranty. Here's a typical knot I found today
My Fotki: http://public.fotki.com/dmarie21/
Porocity: totally sinkable
Texture: fine to med fine (stand size pic)
Products I Like: Qhemet--Cocoa Tree Detangling Ghee, Olive & Honey Hydrating Balm mixed with Burdock Root Cream, Vatika, apple cider vinegar rinse, Baba de Caracol, CON Argan shampoo
Searching For: better understanding of what my hair is all about
Oh wow, this does NOT make me excited for the future. So the problem only gets worse, not better???
Originally Posted by kinkyncurly
Yeah, sorry, but it's getting worse. I know some people with this kind of hair wash in braids to help decrease tangles. I actually used to do that when I was relaxed (BSL) b/c of tangles. And again, the longer it got--the worse the tangles. YTC (new formula) is what I'm currently using, and it only works well if I use both YTC shampoo and YTC conditoner. Cowashing just doesn't work for me and I agree with Krazy Coils about some shampoos making it completely worse!

I do know I can't sit for hours to detangle my hair. Right now it takes me 1 hour--and that's too freakin' much--and I literally have to slather on the products and section (after washing) into maybe 8 parts. So what to do? I'm thinking of washing 2-3 times a week. Theory is doing it more often will cut down on the tangles b/c going longer than 1-week definitely makes it worse. I don't freakin' know. Ughhhhh. Sorry to be so ranty. Here's a typical knot I found today
Originally Posted by dmarie21

The back of my head is pen spring and I have had the frustration of constant tangling especially as my hair grows longer. What has helped me is to use a heavy conditioner is that section than in other sections. I use Aussie Moist, denman it through starting at the ends. I usually two strand twist it and let it air dry that way. I do this about every other day and it's helping a lot. If I detangle once a week like other people do, I'll have a mess.

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