"White men love natural hair!" - Page 2

FieldsOfCotton · 08-10-2009, 06:38 PM

I actually get a lot more attention from white men! They tell me that my 3c/4a/4b curls are exotic!!!!

FieldsOfCotton · 08-10-2009, 06:42 PM

Anyone see the Dr. Miracle's ad ? The woman's hair has "new growth", her hair is wild, messy, and she looks a mess making a distorted face sticking her tongue out.. but when she gets her Dr. Miracle relaxer..suddenly she's smiling brightly, has makeup on, and looks well put together. I mean if a person can't see the message sent in that..well they are blind. And when messages are sent like that in society..what else does one expect of men..even black men.. they are taught kinky hair is not attractive.

I absolutely hate this commercial!!! Every time is comes on my bf looks at me cuz he knows something is going to come out fo my mouth or show on my face!!!! I think its important that we educate our black men on how beautiful natural hair really is instead of being mad. I think a lot of them our products of our society. My bf actually didn't like that I was going natural at first, but I educate him on the struggles that black people had to go thru to learn to love their hair. Her adores it now!!!

NaturallyCurlyEnnovy · 08-10-2009, 07:17 PM

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I've had relationships with White, Black, Latino and Asian men. When I wore my hair straight I noticed a difference with only Black men when it came to my hair. ONLY one black man loved my long straight hair (ranged from MBL to TL). All the others hated it and asked me to cut it. They said it was just too much hair. Very weird since I hear most black men love long hair. However, now that I don't flat-iron it anymore and wear it natural ALL the black men I have come across love it. I actually NOW receive compliments from black men when I very rarily did in the past. And NOW I get men (black) touching my hair when this NEVER happened when I wore it straight. Perhaps I've run across strange black men????

Perhaps you have lol. That's actually refreshing to hear. Please ask them to spread that around to others

I know right! It really surprised me that I received that type of response from men in general. Makes me feel even better about going natural. What's not so funny is that most of the women I know make smart a%# comments about my hair and how it looked better straight. Haterz!! Who knew that men would be the one's to be supportive. Black men at that.

*Marah* · 08-10-2009, 08:15 PM

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Anyone see the Dr. Miracle's ad ? The woman's hair has "new growth", her hair is wild, messy, and she looks a mess making a distorted face sticking her tongue out.. but when she gets her Dr. Miracle relaxer..suddenly she's smiling brightly, has makeup on, and looks well put together. I mean if a person can't see the message sent in that..well they are blind. And when messages are sent like that in society..what else does one expect of men..even black men.. they are taught kinky hair is not attractive.

I absolutely hate this commercial!!! Every time is comes on my bf looks at me cuz he knows something is going to come out fo my mouth or show on my face!!!! I think its important that we educate our black men on how beautiful natural hair really is instead of being mad. I think a lot of them our products of our society. My bf actually didn't like that I was going natural at first, but I educate him on the struggles that black people had to go thru to learn to love their hair. Her adores it now!!!

Good points. Because I don't see how getting mad at them will make things any better. Men aren't like women.. men will just think, "Good grief she's rather b*tchy about it!"

I think if it's looked at in a way that men are bombarded with certain looks and are often TOLD what's attractive instead of this idea that men are just stupid and ignorant perhaps some of them would be interested in why some women like natural hair and why it can be nice. But acting all witchified toward a man about it is NOT going to suddenly make them like it that's for sure.

And also, I think sometimes it's just a matter of preference. For instance, I like tall men. My husband is 6'2.. I don't think short men are bad or anything..my preference is just a tall man so I married a tall one. LOL!

So if a man just simply LIKES straight hair and expresses that.. I don't think it's fair for women to go nuts on him about it as if he doesn't have a right to like what he likes and DISKLIKE what he doesn't.

But that darn Dr. Miracle commerial is a hot mess.. no two ways about it.. LOL!

NubianCoils · 08-11-2009, 08:28 AM

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Nubiancoils,

NO I DID NOT SEE THAT COMMERCIAL OR I WOULD HAVE BEEN IRRITATED! (the caps are directed at the Garnier people..not you.. LOL!)

So what the h-e-double hockey sticks is Garnier trying to say ??? And if a woman has 4a/b hair texture there's no dang way some Garnier is going to make it silky straight so can they PLEASE stop fronting! *Sigh*

Um.. why the heck didn't they show Sarah Jessica Parker (their spokeswoman) with frizz and then her after ? (rolling my eyes)... LOL!

Oh but I guess I should be thrilled to some people cause Lo'real doesn't want to put people of color in their commercials unless they look like Beyonce.... opps did I type that ? Rolling my eyes again!

Guurrrrl, it's a hot a** mess!!! And the woman with the afro is white. I guess they thought maybe that made it better cause she wasn't "supposed" to have hair like that, but when I saw it, my jaw dropped. I've only seen the commercial once, but it's burned into my memory.

springyhead · 08-11-2009, 10:30 AM

I saw this thread and, at first, did a:

But I can't resist. I don't think men or women learn their primary standards of beauty from the media. They get it from their mama...and their grandmamas, and their aunties, and their sisters, and female cousins. The media may reinforce a beauty standard, but female family members teach it first. Many Black men and boys don't accept nappy/kinky hair (not loosely curled haired, aka "good" hair

) as beautiful because, quite simply, they were taught otherwise by the women in their family...hearing them speak negatively about it; relaxing it; covering it with wigs, weaves, tree braids or whatever the latest weaving craze. And, of course, greater society sends a similar message; reinforces what they learned at home.

MY SO is African American and ADORES my kinky hair. His father loves natural hair on black women, too. And so does his mother. I don't think his preference is a coincidence....

*Marah* · 08-11-2009, 03:48 PM

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Nubiancoils,

NO I DID NOT SEE THAT COMMERCIAL OR I WOULD HAVE BEEN IRRITATED! (the caps are directed at the Garnier people..not you.. LOL!)

So what the h-e-double hockey sticks is Garnier trying to say ??? And if a woman has 4a/b hair texture there's no dang way some Garnier is going to make it silky straight so can they PLEASE stop fronting! *Sigh*

Um.. why the heck didn't they show Sarah Jessica Parker (their spokeswoman) with frizz and then her after ? (rolling my eyes)... LOL!

Oh but I guess I should be thrilled to some people cause Lo'real doesn't want to put people of color in their commercials unless they look like Beyonce.... opps did I type that ? Rolling my eyes again!

Guurrrrl, it's a hot a** mess!!! And the woman with the afro is white. I guess they thought maybe that made it better cause she wasn't "supposed" to have hair like that, but when I saw it, my jaw dropped. I've only seen the commercial once, but it's burned into my memory.

LOL! Well now I am in real shock. I didn't think she was white.. oh well.. LOL! I still don't see even that product making Caucasian hair get silky straight not with out a good flat iron and some MAJOR heat.

These commercials are silly sometimes. What my husband and I have observed though is that in a lot of commercials they feature women of color and little girls of color with their natural hair! My husband and I were watching tv last night and seeing all sorts of little girls and women with their natural hair..we saw dreadlocks on one girl! It was actually fun pointing out them in commercials.. and it was A LOT in various commericals too!

I wonder how come in commercials so many women of color are featured with their natural hair..like what makes advertising agencies go for them instead of women of color with straight hair... it's really interesting considering most women of color in the USA are processed straight or flat ironed.

Haj · 08-11-2009, 09:03 PM

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LMAO, you know I was gonna say something to this affect, but I was like let me say something positive.

Really I would also like to add to my comment that I would hope that it wouldn't matter to anyone what other people think about what naturally grows out of your head.

I know the OP is biracial and your father is white. I'm not sure if that bares any relevance to anything. But I mean your dad married and fathered children with a black woman, so there's bound to be some white guys out there who will appreciate all that comes with being with a woman of African descent.

But all I'm saying is if they didn't like your hair, that shouldn't make you feel any kind of way. I know for a solid fact that if other people didn't like my hair this way they could go kick rocks. I mean it's always nice to get compliments but you have to have a love affair with yourself, you know what I mean?

Also I'd be leery of those "exotic" comments. I mean what are you some type of rare plant or bird?

I know that I don't know you, but I'm just trying to give some honest caring advice. Just be careful and don't fall for the okidoke.

Btw NappyCurlyCrown you have been cracking me up every time I read your comments since I've been frequenting this curly forum more and more.

hippychic · 08-12-2009, 09:18 AM

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LMAO, you know I was gonna say something to this affect, but I was like let me say something positive.

Really I would also like to add to my comment that I would hope that it wouldn't matter to anyone what other people think about what naturally grows out of your head.

I know the OP is biracial and your father is white. I'm not sure if that bares any relevance to anything. But I mean your dad married and fathered children with a black woman, so there's bound to be some white guys out there who will appreciate all that comes with being with a woman of African descent.

But all I'm saying is if they didn't like your hair, that shouldn't make you feel any kind of way. I know for a solid fact that if other people didn't like my hair this way they could go kick rocks. I mean it's always nice to get compliments but you have to have a love affair with yourself, you know what I mean?

Also I'd be leery of those "exotic" comments. I mean what are you some type of rare plant or bird?

I know that I don't know you, but I'm just trying to give some honest caring advice. Just be careful and don't fall for the okidoke.

Btw NappyCurlyCrown you have been cracking me up every time I read your comments since I've been frequenting this curly forum more and more.

Haj (*high fives*) - you are so on point my sista

It always amazes me that peeps search for validation of their beauty from others before they accept that they are beautiful in their own eyes.

Kitathena · 08-12-2009, 09:23 AM

Could someone please let my DH know that white men are supposed to like natural hair? I don't think he got the memo!

hippychic · 08-12-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitathena

Could someone please let my DH know that white men are supposed to like natural hair? I don't think he got the memo!

See, this is why peeps can't make a broad statement like this (original post). What does your DH dislike about your hair?

Kitathena · 08-12-2009, 09:46 AM

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Could someone please let my DH know that white men are supposed to like natural hair? I don't think he got the memo!

See, this is why peeps can't make a broad statement like this (original post). What does your DH dislike about your hair?

Well, I think it was more the length than anything at first. But he has told me, because he believes in (brutal) honesty, that he prefers straight long hair. I've told him the only thing that he will get out of me is eventually long but rarely straight.

He pretty much hates it when I wear it in a fro and twists, but likes the twist outs. I take it into consideration if it's his birthday or something, but I mostly wear twists.

I just flat ironed my hair the other day and he just about tripped over himself to compliment me *sigh*

He has made a point in telling me that he did not marry me for my hair and I'm pretty no matter what, but that he will always be honest

hippychic · 08-12-2009, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitathena

Could someone please let my DH know that white men are supposed to like natural hair? I don't think he got the memo!

See, this is why peeps can't make a broad statement like this (original post). What does your DH dislike about your hair?

Well, I think it was more the length than anything at first. But he has told me, because he believes in (brutal) honesty, that he prefers straight long hair. I've told him the only thing that he will get out of me is eventually long but rarely straight.

He pretty much hates it when I wear it in a fro and twists, but likes the twist outs. I take it into consideration if it's his birthday or something, but I mostly wear twists.

I just flat ironed my hair the other day and he just about tripped over himself to compliment me *sigh*

He has made a point in telling me that he did not marry me for my hair and I'm pretty no matter what, but that he will always be honest

thanks for answering

Its refreshing that you two communicate about hair.

tiffanyp · 08-12-2009, 10:33 AM

Well, I don't like to speak in generalities, but I can say that my husband likes my hair better natural than he does it relaxed. He's fairly liberal, but I think it's more of a psychological thing for him than an overall preference thing. He says I'm meaner when my hair is straight.

Kitathena · 08-12-2009, 10:51 AM

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Well, I don't like to speak in generalities, but I can say that my husband likes my hair better natural than he does it relaxed. He's fairly liberal, but I think it's more of a psychological thing for him than an overall preference thing. He says I'm meaner when my hair is straight.

Tiffany I love your avatar!

tiffanyp · 08-12-2009, 11:01 AM

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Well, I don't like to speak in generalities, but I can say that my husband likes my hair better natural than he does it relaxed. He's fairly liberal, but I think it's more of a psychological thing for him than an overall preference thing. He says I'm meaner when my hair is straight.

Tiffany I love your avatar!

hee! My husband took that picture...after he shaved my head. He complained about it the entire time because the clippers were having a hard time getting through to my scalp. I think the word "carpet" was used once or twice.

Caramelpoofer · 08-12-2009, 11:46 AM

I think that they just like long hair in general, it has to be long it could be 4c as long as its down to your butt. It could be dreads as long as its long. Me I'm working with curly hair that justs touches my neck so... lol

sanja · 08-12-2009, 12:48 PM

interesting.

some Black women say that (some) White men like their hair.

...most of the responses are to "convince" them otherwise -- "white men don't really like your hair; oh white (and black) men only like MY hair (curly/3c), they even ask me why Black women don't have hair like me; men have preferences, you're not special."

I also find it kinda funny that the Black women who are claiming that Black men love natural hair so much, have a curly texture.

all very interesting.

edit: had to change a few things

KinkyKeeper · 08-12-2009, 03:26 PM

From what I have read more White men like curly/kinky hair than Black men at this point in history (though it's nice to keep in mind that if Black men hate Black textures of hair it's becuase of brainwashing from Whites) but there are still plenty of White men who hate kinky hair or prefer straight over it.

And true, most men prefer long hair but I wouldn't say regardless of texture becuase for many people long hair means hair that reaches downward. And my very kinky texture, no matter how long it is, is never going to hang.

I don't personally have enough experience with a wide enough variety of White men and Black men since going natural to answer this question.

lashon20 · 08-12-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by springyhead

I saw this thread and, at first, did a:

But I can't resist. I don't think men or women learn their primary standards of beauty from the media. They get it from their mama...and their grandmamas, and their aunties, and their sisters, and female cousins. The media may reinforce a beauty standard, but female family members teach it first. Many Black men and boys don't accept nappy/kinky hair (not loosely curled haired, aka "good" hair

) as beautiful because, quite simply, they were taught otherwise by the women in their family...hearing them speak negatively about it; relaxing it; covering it with wigs, weaves, tree braids or whatever the latest weaving craze. And, of course, greater society sends a similar message; reinforces what they learned at home.

MY SO is African American and ADORES my kinky hair. His father loves natural hair on black women, too. And so does his mother. I don't think his preference is a coincidence....

I agree with this. My boyfriend doesn't have a problem with natural hair because he was raised around women with natural hair even though they hide under wigs and press n curls. So yes I believe the self hate starts at home.