Deep Conditioners,Moisturizers

I have 4b/c hair and I am desperately in search of a DEEP conditioner, I have tried the DRP11by elasta QP and all it does is sit on my hair any suggestions?

Also what is a good creamy moisturizer that you all could recommend?
Last Relaxer- 10/2008

Decided to go Natural 05/2009 after wearing braids due to damage

BC- 06/2009

Products For Now

Co Wash: V05 Moisture Milks Passion Fruit

Leave In: TIGI Moisture Maniac

Deep Cond: Elasta QP DPR11(not so much n e more)

Styling: Eco Styler w/ Olive Oil, Smooth n Shine Curl Activator Gel w/Aloe,KCCC, MiraCurl Curling Gelly

-I am turning into a PJ @ least until I find my staples
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Jessicurl Weekly Deep Conditioning Treatment
Aubrey Organic Honeysucklerose Conditioner (AOHR)
Giovanni Nutrafix Hair Reconstructor (has protein so if you are protein sensitive, you may want to pass)
Giovanni Smooth as Silk Conditioner




I have 4b/c hair and I am desperately in search of a DEEP conditioner, I have tried the DRP11by elasta QP and all it does is sit on my hair any suggestions?

Also what is a good creamy moisturizer that you all could recommend?
Originally Posted by MissCartersCoils
Last relaxer - July 07
BC - 8/2/08
4B headband-holic
Products in rotation (too many!):
Shampoo - Giovanni Smooth as Silk, Giovanni Tea Tree
Condish - Giovanni Smooth as Silk, Trader Joe Nourish Spa
Leave in - Sheamoisture Curl Milk, KCNT, Giovanni Direct
Deep Treatment - Apoghee Two Step Protein Treatment, Giovanni Nutrafix
Moisturizers - Carefree Curl Gold Spray
Stylers - Sheamoisture Curl Smoothie
Jessicurl Weekly Deep Conditioning Treatment
Aubrey Organic Honeysucklerose Conditioner (AOHR)
Giovanni Nutrafix Hair Reconstructor (has protein so if you are protein sensitive, you may want to pass)
Giovanni Smooth as Silk Conditioner




I have 4b/c hair and I am desperately in search of a DEEP conditioner, I have tried the DRP11by elasta QP and all it does is sit on my hair any suggestions?

Also what is a good creamy moisturizer that you all could recommend?
Originally Posted by MissCartersCoils
Originally Posted by Mo_Gemini22
You can use the Giovanni Smooth and Silk as a deep conditioner?...hhmm didn't know that.
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I 2nd ------> Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose
Type: 4ab
Co-Wash: Elucence MB Conditioner, ACV Rinse
Sealant: Coconut/Castor/Olive Oil Mixture
Style: My Own Butter Mix
Deep Cond: CJ Curl Rehab Moisturizing Hair Treatment, Henna, Olive Oil & Honey
Current Faves: Coconut/Castor/Olive Oil Mixture, Henna, Curl Junkie Products
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Also:

Mixed Chicks Deep Conditioner
Aubrey Organics White Camelia conditioner
MopTop Deep Conditioner*
Aquage Healing Conditioner* or the Sally's version, Aquelle

*
Costs more, but worth it!
Mod CG-Naturally Highly Porous and Dry
SUMMER REGIMEN-This list is not exhaustive...
Pre-treat:Shima oil
Shampoo:
Schwarzkopf Gliss Kur Ultimate Oil Elixir
Cowash:HE The Sleeker The Butter
PT: Gold Medal's Herbal Tame
DT/LI/Detangler/
: various
Stylers: Lush Zeste Hair Gel

*experimenting and loving it!


I would have to say:

Oyin Handmade Honey Hemp Conditioner is the best conditioner EVER!! It detangles my hair like nothing else.

Another good conditioner/deep conditioner is Taliah Waajid's Balancing Herbal Conditioner. You can get that from Whole Foods for like $7.99.

As far as a moisturizer goes, I love Oyin Handmade's Whipped Pudding. You can use it on your hair and your body, smells great, and it lasts a long time. HTH.

Hey MCC,
Through research (thenaturalhaven blog), I've found that there is really nothing such as a deep conditioner. They either contain ingredients that can penetrate the hair (shea butter, avocado oil, coconut oil, olive oil) or they are regular conditioners that need 15-30 minutes to work :{ Even then, there is the risk of over conditioning or protein overloading your hair and making it stringy, frizzy, limp, or drier.

Deep conditioners can also leave residue behind that blocks the moisture from your leave-in conditioners, or creates buildup if you use creams/butters in your after after conditioning.

What has worked for me is not deep conditioning and instead focusing on how often I strip the moisture from my hair (i.e. shampoo routine). I keep my hair's moisture balanced by limiting my shampoos to every two weeks and co-washing in between (I shampoo one week, co-wash the next week, shampoo the next week, co-wash the next week etc.). I apply leave-in to my hair on wash day and during the week I put the leave-in in a spritz bottle with a small amount of warm water (easier application, keeps style from getting frizzy) and re-apply. Then, I seal my ends again after spritzing. This might sound complicated, but essentially, I reapply leave-in and seal once in the middle of the week and I'm done. It re-enforces the moisture balance in your hair during the week and the benefits last over time so if you forget to do the routine one week, your hair will still be soft.

The same goes for protein. Instead of deep protein treatments, I just find leave-in conditioners or regular conditioners that contain average amounts of protein and rotate those every 2-3 weeks with my moisturizing leave-ins and conditioners.

Over time, I have noticed that my hair is much softer, supple, and my ends and roots are not as dry as they used to be. My ends and roots used to be so dry and crunchy a day or so after "deep conditioning" that I would feel the need to completely re-wet my hair every 2-3 days. Not anymore.

I use:
Regular conditioning- V05 Vanilla-mint for moisture (creamiest I've found). V05 kiwi lime for protein, or any other conditioner that contains protein.

Leave-in (I don't use all at once, just whatever is on hand): alba botanica leave-in for protein, karen's body beautiful super silky for moisture, kinky curly knot today for moisture, qhemet burdock root buttercream for moisture.
Sealer: Look for butters, creamy oil mixes, or emollient oils that don't leave your hair crunchy (some oils can leave your hair dry). I use whipped shea, qhemet amla olive heavy cream, castor oil, or almond oil.

Good luck.
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BC Sep. 2007
Deep Conditioner

-Aussie Moist 3 Minute Miracle (Target, Wal-Mart, CVS, Walgreens)
-Yes to Carrots Hair Mask (Target, Walgreens, CVS)
-Aubrey Organics White Camellia (Vitamin Shoppe, Whole Foods)
-Aubrey Organics Swimmer's Normalizing Conditioner, this conditioner needs to be used w. a heavy
moisturizer since it's really a light protein treatment.

Moisturizers

Oyin Handmade Honey Hemp Conditioner
Quemet Biologics Amla and Olive Heavy Cream
Shea butter whipped w/ Aloe Vera Gel
Last Relaxer: Nov. 07
BC: May. 2010 (30 months)
Hair Type: thick 4b/4a
Current length: back at APL
Goal length: hip
Staples: natural growth aides
Right now I am loving Jessicurl WDT as an overnight deep conditioner. Hairveda's Strinillah and Aubrey Organics Honey Suckle Rose are also really good. For winter, I will be using water, KBB Hair Milk and any of Afroveda's hair butters (Totally Twisted, Coccolatte or Shea Amla).
Dense Tight Coils.
Last Relaxer: Sept 2011
Loves
Jessicurl, Karen's Body Beautiful, Hairveda, Oyin, She Scent It and Qhemet Biologics products
***Recovering PJ***
In addition to AOHR, try Curl Junkie Hibiscus & Banana Deep Fix Moisturizing Conditioner and Curl Junkie Curl Rehab Moisturizing Hair Treatment.
Type: 4ab
Co-Wash: Elucence MB Conditioner, ACV Rinse
Sealant: Coconut/Castor/Olive Oil Mixture
Style: My Own Butter Mix
Deep Cond: CJ Curl Rehab Moisturizing Hair Treatment, Henna, Olive Oil & Honey
Current Faves: Coconut/Castor/Olive Oil Mixture, Henna, Curl Junkie Products
My Fotki

Originally Posted by joycurl
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Shampoo: Giovanni 50:50, Nexxus Aloe Rid
Detangling Conditioner: Oyin Honey Hemp, EO Sweet Orange
Cowash Conditioner:
Suave Naturals Sea Breeze, V05 Tea Therapy, Oyin Honey Hemp
Deep Conditioner: CJ Hibiscus & Banana Deep Fix, Spa Siam Coconut Hair Mask, Yes to Carrots Mud Mask
Leave-in Conditioner: Afroveda NU Milk Hair Conditioner, CJ Hibiscus & Banana Honey Butta Leave-in, Knot Today
Stylers: SheaMoisture, JC Nourish and Shine, Burdock Root Butter Cream, Afroveda CocoLatte Moisture Mask
Hey MCC,
Through research (thenaturalhaven blog), I've found that there is really nothing such as a deep conditioner. They either contain ingredients that can penetrate the hair (shea butter, avocado oil, coconut oil, olive oil) or they are regular conditioners that need 15-30 minutes to work :{ Even then, there is the risk of over conditioning or protein overloading your hair and making it stringy, frizzy, limp, or drier.

Deep conditioners can also leave residue behind that blocks the moisture from your leave-in conditioners, or creates buildup if you use creams/butters in your after after conditioning.

What has worked for me is not deep conditioning and instead focusing on how often I strip the moisture from my hair (i.e. shampoo routine). I keep my hair's moisture balanced by limiting my shampoos to every two weeks and co-washing in between (I shampoo one week, co-wash the next week, shampoo the next week, co-wash the next week etc.). I apply leave-in to my hair on wash day and during the week I put the leave-in in a spritz bottle with a small amount of warm water (easier application, keeps style from getting frizzy) and re-apply. Then, I seal my ends again after spritzing. This might sound complicated, but essentially, I reapply leave-in and seal once in the middle of the week and I'm done. It re-enforces the moisture balance in your hair during the week and the benefits last over time so if you forget to do the routine one week, your hair will still be soft.

The same goes for protein. Instead of deep protein treatments, I just find leave-in conditioners or regular conditioners that contain average amounts of protein and rotate those every 2-3 weeks with my moisturizing leave-ins and conditioners.

Over time, I have noticed that my hair is much softer, supple, and my ends and roots are not as dry as they used to be. My ends and roots used to be so dry and crunchy a day or so after "deep conditioning" that I would feel the need to completely re-wet my hair every 2-3 days. Not anymore.

I use:
Regular conditioning- V05 Vanilla-mint for moisture (creamiest I've found). V05 kiwi lime for protein, or any other conditioner that contains protein.

Leave-in (I don't use all at once, just whatever is on hand): alba botanica leave-in for protein, karen's body beautiful super silky for moisture, kinky curly knot today for moisture, qhemet burdock root buttercream for moisture.
Sealer: Look for butters, creamy oil mixes, or emollient oils that don't leave your hair crunchy (some oils can leave your hair dry). I use whipped shea, qhemet amla olive heavy cream, castor oil, or almond oil.

Good luck.
Originally Posted by Paraty

This is very interesting information. I noticed that my hair has been more manageable through co-washing and very little shampooing.
Hair Type: 4a/4b Combo
Last Relaxer: May/June 2008
Big Chop: N/A
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Detangle/Co-Wash: VO5 Freesia or Green Tea
Shampoo: White Vinegar

Deep Con. Treat.: Aussie 3-min. & Olive Oil
Final Wash: Nexxus Humectress
Moist. Spritz: Glycerin, Water, Proclaim 7-Olive Oil, Suave Extreme Leave-In


My cheap go to is simple, warmed olive oil and honey mixed together , then placed on my baggy and do house work , or sit under the steamer for 35 minutes. Cheap simple and easy to get

My expensive deep treatments/conditioners are

Myasha's Honeydew Treatment
Hairveda's Sitrinillah Mask
Afroveda's Ashlii amala Mask
HairVeda's Vatika oil/regular vatika oil (cheap)
Aubrey Organic's Conditioners ( they work best on dry hair for some)
Jessicurl's Weekly Deep Treatment, Too Shea

My moisturizers are

Qhemet Biologics's Amla and Olive Heavy Cream, Burdock Butter Root Cream, Olive and Honey Hydrating Balm
OyinHandmade's Whipped Pudding
SheaMoisture Leave-in Conditioner
MyhoneyChild's Type 3 Cream , Buttery Soy Cream
Njoicreation's Coconut butter
SweetNature's Dream Cream
deep conditioner
Jessicurl WDT

moisturizers
sheamoisture leave in
afroveda butters

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