Spongy textured 4a's, Let's talk

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I cant seem to find anyone who has my hair texture. i have a spongy hair texture. i usally see either silky textured people or cottony textured people. while i appreciate others comments i would like to see what they have to say about this kind of hair.

here is the description of spongy hair
Spongy - Hair has a high sheen with low shine with a compacted looking frizz. Absorbs water before it gets thoroughly wet.

does anyone think that the slow absorbtion of water inhibits curl defition because i noticed my curls just do not get defined unless i have left conditioner on it for a while. when i leave my hair with no products and no manipulation the end result is very undefined and resembles 4b hair.

i only get definition with a gel . i have to shellac it on before my hair starts to react to it and it then gets super defined(and super hard) LOL. its so annoying! im still searching for something that defines my curls with out the crunch. sometimes i feel like giving up.
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That's what I have. The more moisture the more definition. The more manipulation the more frizz I have. That is why somtimes kinky curly works great and at other times its a disaster.
Current Regimen: I am doing protective styles for the winter. Two Strand Twists and Twist Outs. Wet hair in the middle of winter is not cute.
Favorite Products: Komaza Care Coconut Line, Kinky Curly Line, and Africare 100% Glycerin
Never Again: Carol's Daughter, Miss Jessie's, Garnier Fructis, Hot Oil Treatments
Hair Type: Texture-Spongy, Strand Size-Medium, Curl Pattern-I in the front, O in the middle, and S in the back. 4a
I totally know what you are talking about. I have that texture on the lower left quadrant of my hair and it is rather frustrating at times, especially right now since the seasons changed. I found that I have to have a super rock solid moisture regimen to get definition in that section. There was a period of time a few months ago when that section was defined and during that time I was using HEHH for my rinse out condish, Jessicurl WDT for my deep, I would use a leave - in (still trying to have the perfect one) but at the time it was Taliah Waajid Conditioner (its a rinse out but I leave it in) and I would twist (for the purpose of airdrying) with JC Nourish and Shine. I would refresh with Oyin Greg Juice. My hair was very moisturized during that time I was so amazed and in love with the curl definition. Needless to say I strayed away from that due to trying other things and trying to use up some products and now my hair has gone insane and its frizzed out and ultra ultra dry...but anyway. Yes I can relate. I've found that moisture is the key. and while your trying to de-spongify I highly rec that you stay away from heat styling bc it only exacerbates the problem. this is just my trial and error experiences. I hope that helps.
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Last edited by kurltasticT; 10-20-2009 at 12:12 PM.
OMG I know just what you mean, this is EXACTLY my hair type, except for some really smooth hair in the back, I just can't seem to figure out what to do with it,some days I think I'm caring for it properly other days I'm sure I've done something wrong.
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http://fromgrandmaskitchen.com/Natur...ave/Page1.html

i dont have spongy hair but thought this was a nice site. i have cottony hair.
LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
Yep, this is me too. Spongy. However I can get definition without any products. Lots of frizz but still lots of curl too.

If I rake my gel in section by section until I feel it begin to absorb in my hair that's when I get great definition and no frizz.

Put a little Long Aid Curl Activator under your gel. That should cut the crunch but still give you definition.

For a while, the Curls cream gave me awesome hair. But once I tried gel I couldn't beat the shine.
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Last edited by Phoenix; 10-20-2009 at 07:20 PM.
Yep, this is me too. Spongy. However I can get definition without any products. Lots of frizz but still lots of curl too.

If I rake my gel in section by section until I feel it begin to absorb in my hair that's when I get great definition and no frizz.

Put a little Long Aid Curl Activator under your gel. That should cut the crunch but still give you definition.

For a while, the Curls cream gave my awesome hair. But once I tried gel I couldn't beat the shine.
Originally Posted by Phoenix
which curls cream did you try?
LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
I have spongy texture that tends to coil rather than curl... I get that frizzy thing going on when there is too much manipulation or use of the wrong product.

Without a leave-in or styling product, my hair will will stand straight up at the top and the sides will cave in. Not a good look.

I get great curl definition with half KCCC and half Biotera Gel.
Coily/low porosity/fine
BC 08*14*09
That's what I have. The more moisture the more definition. The more manipulation the more frizz I have. That is why somtimes kinky curly works great and at other times its a disaster.
Originally Posted by cayisha_azul
Really agree here.
"We Live From the Head Down and Not the Feet Up" ~Donnie
I have spongy hair too. I have really tight coils that will frizz if I don't use leave in/cream styler/then kccc. Any other combo makes my hair a frizzy spongy mess.
4a Curly

Been natural since Jan 09. BCing is my thing!! Love to keep a tight TWA!

My Staples:
CJ Smoothing Conitioner, CJ Daily Fix,Cherry Lola Treatment, CJ CCCC, CJ Smoothing Lotion, Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Majic, KCCC, Eco Blue and KMF UMG
That's me as well. Especially the water part. I can stand under my shower for minutes before my hair is thoroughly saturated. Also, I need think products to moisturize my hair...

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Yep, this is me too. Spongy. However I can get definition without any products. Lots of frizz but still lots of curl too.

If I rake my gel in section by section until I feel it begin to absorb in my hair that's when I get great definition and no frizz.

Put a little Long Aid Curl Activator under your gel. That should cut the crunch but still give you definition.

For a while, the Curls cream gave my awesome hair. But once I tried gel I couldn't beat the shine.
Originally Posted by Phoenix
which curls cream did you try?
Originally Posted by hippychic
Curls Whipped Cream
No MAS.

I am the new Black.

"Hope the Mail are saving space tomorrow for Samantha Brick's reaction piece on the reactions to her piece about the reactions to her piece." ~ Tweet reposted by Rou.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Kimshi4242

http://www.tumblr.com/blog/kimshi4242
I have spongy texture that tends to coil rather than curl... I get that frizzy thing going on when there is too much manipulation or use of the wrong product.

Without a leave-in or styling product, my hair will will stand straight up at the top and the sides will cave in. Not a good look.

I get great curl definition with half KCCC and half Biotera Gel.
Originally Posted by caracara01
How are coils different than curls?
No MAS.

I am the new Black.

"Hope the Mail are saving space tomorrow for Samantha Brick's reaction piece on the reactions to her piece about the reactions to her piece." ~ Tweet reposted by Rou.

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http://www.tumblr.com/blog/kimshi4242
In general I guess its all curly hair. I was just describing the look of the curl.

I have spongy texture that tends to coil rather than curl... I get that frizzy thing going on when there is too much manipulation or use of the wrong product.

Without a leave-in or styling product, my hair will will stand straight up at the top and the sides will cave in. Not a good look.

I get great curl definition with half KCCC and half Biotera Gel.
Originally Posted by caracara01
How are coils different than curls?
Originally Posted by Phoenix
Coily/low porosity/fine
BC 08*14*09
Oh I'm not arguing or correcting. I was just wondering what you meant by coil and what it looks like.
No MAS.

I am the new Black.

"Hope the Mail are saving space tomorrow for Samantha Brick's reaction piece on the reactions to her piece about the reactions to her piece." ~ Tweet reposted by Rou.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Kimshi4242

http://www.tumblr.com/blog/kimshi4242
Yep, this is me too. Spongy. However I can get definition without any products. Lots of frizz but still lots of curl too.

If I rake my gel in section by section until I feel it begin to absorb in my hair that's when I get great definition and no frizz.

Put a little Long Aid Curl Activator under your gel. That should cut the crunch but still give you definition.

For a while, the Curls cream gave my awesome hair. But once I tried gel I couldn't beat the shine.
Originally Posted by Phoenix
which curls cream did you try?
Originally Posted by hippychic
Curls Whipped Cream
Originally Posted by Phoenix
thanks, i have this product on my radar for one day
LOIS (OS); cottony, TYPE 4 hair, fine/med strands; no cones bcz my hair hates them; last relaxer '98; now low porosity, ignores most natural hair rules; BC #8

faves: suave, v05 shampoo, conditioner (my own), raw shea butter, castor oil, peanut oil, aloe juice
I get great curl definition with half KCCC and half Biotera Gel.
Originally Posted by caracara01
Caracara01

Do you only use the KCCC and Biotera Gel; or do you use a leave in underneath? Do you have super crunchy hair layering the two gels?
4a Curly

Been natural since Jan 09. BCing is my thing!! Love to keep a tight TWA!

My Staples:
CJ Smoothing Conitioner, CJ Daily Fix,Cherry Lola Treatment, CJ CCCC, CJ Smoothing Lotion, Uncle Funky's Daughter Curly Majic, KCCC, Eco Blue and KMF UMG
lol. Not crunchy hair--just a moderate hold with both gels. IMO, the Biotera Gel is really more like a serum or liquidy glaze. I think it really helps with my frizz issues.

Sometimes I use a very small amount of curl cream as a leave in.


I get great curl definition with half KCCC and half Biotera Gel.
Originally Posted by caracara01
Caracara01

Do you only use the KCCC and Biotera Gel; or do you use a leave in underneath? Do you have super crunchy hair layering the two gels?
Originally Posted by rosscd
Coily/low porosity/fine
BC 08*14*09
That's what I have. The more moisture the more definition. The more manipulation the more frizz I have. That is why somtimes kinky curly works great and at other times its a disaster.
Originally Posted by cayisha_azul
This is so me. I've also learned that my hair prefers lotions to creams I think it absorbs better.

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