Newbie(4c) and can't take braids off ... heeellppp !!!

Ok, I'm new on here and don't know if any of you have ever seen or felt a Nigerian hair texture before, but it's insanely coarse more like a type 4z ( if it existed)... ... I had braids on before this one and took 'em and put this one back on immediately 'cos I didn't know what to do to my transitioning hair ... I've been on here for a while and looked around, there's so many products and tips it's extremely confusing to make a decision. I do not want to take these braids down and start to pour in Herbal Essences or Garnier into my hair. Please somebody help this sister out. .. I would appreciate any kind of help, personal advice, links, anything at all. I just want to be naturally curly too !! ... I have pictures of my relaxed hair and me in braids now ... Thanks in advance for the help and God bless. Pls do not read and ignore ... say something
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Last edited by Adabekee; 02-28-2010 at 11:48 AM.
Hi there and welcome! We're so glad to have you!

I can't help with your situation, but I've moved your thread here to the 4b forum, where I know some of the wonderful ladies will have some ideas!
Gretchen
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3A

You are beautiful!
Welcome!

We've all been there.

Remember that the hair you use for braiding can make your natural hair seem more course than it really is because the braid hair pulls moisture away from your natural hair.

I tranistioned with braids for about 7 months. Every time I took the braids out I thought "Lord my hair is not going to able to go natural.

It really is all about finding the right products that work for you. For me I deep condition with Aubrey Organics mixed with Grapeseed oil once a week. I then roller set my hair (so that its streched). To style I just spray the ends with water, dab a small amount of shea butter or caster oil and braid my hair in 4 or 5 braids. I then unbraid and finger comb for fullness the next morning.

It sounds like a lot but its really easy. For me natural products (eg castor oil, shea butter, water, Aubrey Organics conditioners) work the best.

Just hang in there. All the best to you.
Trinigirl
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Welcome, welcome.

I didn't do the transitioning thing at all, so I don't really have any great advice for that part of your journey other than a lot of people can't seem to tell their texture until they get rid of relaxed ends.

I'm gonna agree with Trinigirl, it's all about finding the right products. I'd start loading up on moisture if you're concerned your hair is dry. A lot of people rave about Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle and Rose conditioner (I buy mine at Whole Foods). Some people's hair likes Aloe Vera Gel (including mine) if you want some hold with a helping of moisture. I'd say stay away from protein in your products for awhile, as they can make some people's hair feel drier and more brittle (although if you're hair is too moisturized and stretches and breaks like a piece of warm taffy, you may want to try some protein).

Cowashing is also a good place to start for keeping in moisture. A lot of people use cheapies (like V05 or Suave) but some people use more expensive ones. Find what your hair likes (although I'm in the cheapie camp. Student budget!) Do a search in this forum and you'll find loads of info, but it's pretty much cutting shampoo out of your routine because they are so very drying to curly/coily/kinky hair.

Also, washing hair in sections is a real help if you have dense hair or once your hair is long enough that tangling is unavoidable.

"Stretching" your hair (whether on rollersets like Trinigirl or in braids or twists or "banding" with small ponytail holders) is also a good method for giving you some length and helping you style if you want to combat shrinkage. Although, I happen to love some shrinkage for a good wash 'n go!

Not sure what else to throw in here, but don't worry. It's a process and you and your hair have plenty of time to soak it all up. And no more sad faces, natural hair is happy! =)
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Hi there Adabekee,

You most important investments will be:

Cowash conditioner
moisturizing conditioner
leave-in conditioner
creamy moisuturizer
oil

Like maybejadey stated, our coarse hair tends to hate frequent shampooing so I stick to what is none at cowashing/conditioner washing, which is cleansing the hair with conditioner. Using natural products that are free of mineral oil, petroleum, silicone and other harmful ingredients, I don't get buildup and I don't have any scalp problems.

Having extremely coarse hair, I was very nervous about transitioning to natural but with the right products and techniques my hair is healthy, longer and more beautiful than it's ever been.

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Last edited by Kinky Rhonnie; 03-01-2010 at 09:44 AM.
You've gotten great advice so far. When I became free form natural, my biggest confusion was creating a routine. It's hard to start finding the right products when you're not sure in what order they go or how to use them. Many people have different routines, but here is mine. It's easy to get you started and you can add, take away however you like:

1. I have one day a week that's my wash day
2. Wash hair with a shampoo bar (I only do this step every other week)
3. Wash hair with a slippy conditioner (use the conditioner just like you would a shampoo)
4. Rinse hair and pat dry with a t-shirt or a...LADIES help me, what's it called? Its's a special kind of towel. Don't use a regular towel and pat your hair till it's damp.
5. Deep conditioner. People add all kinds of things to their DT like oils, milks, honey, etc. The best conditioner in my opinion for really course and dry hair is Aubrey Organics Honey Suckle Rose
6. Cover hair and leave on for 30 minutes to an hour. You can also sit under a dryer to heat up the conditioner
7. Rinse and apply a leave-in conditioner and moisturizer
8 Seal with an oil or butter and style.

As you read more of this site you can add DTs in the middle of the week, change your routine up, etc. When I first started I didn't know what came first (should I shampoo then co-wash or the other way around?) so I thought this might help!
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Nubiancoils is referring to a microfiber towel. They keep you hair from frizzing.

@ Nubiancoils you HAVE to try Elucence Moisture Balancing Conditioner!!! I've traded in my Aubrey. And you know that's saying a lot for me!!!

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I'm so grateful for all your help guys, so correct me if I'm wrong ...
there's more conditioning for my hair than washing right ??

Kinky, I would love it if you could tell me the names of your favorite products for , leave-in conditioning, moisturizing conditioning, and any creamy conditioner ...

You guys have me all excited now, I can't wait for this horrible weather to be over so I can start making my hair feel good !!

I'm so grateful for all your help guys, so correct me if I'm wrong ...
there's more conditioning for my hair than washing right ??

Kinky, I would love it if you could tell me the names of your favorite products for , leave-in conditioning, moisturizing conditioning, and any creamy conditioner ...

You guys have me all excited now, I can't wait for this horrible weather to be over so I can start making my hair feel good !!

Originally Posted by Adabekee
Hey there,

Yes, conditioner and moisturizer will the moist important ingredients in your regimen.

My favorites are:

Cowash conditioner (Whole Foods 365, Trader Joes Nourish Refresh)
Moisturizing conditioner (Aubrey Organics Honey Suckle Rose, Elucence Moisture Balance Conditioner)
leave-in conditioner (Kinky Curly Knot Today)
Creamy moisuturizer (Qhemet Biologics Alma Olive Heavy Cream mixed with Qhemet Biologics Olive Honey Hydrating Balm)
Styler (Kinky Curly Knot Today, Ohm Body Sweet Hair Pudding)
Oil (Castor Oil, Avocado Oil)

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yiipeee !! ... just ordered my aubrey honey suckle rose sugar la la la la... shampoo & conditioner ... lol ... also got some grape seed oil ... thanks for the link to iHerb kinky ... got a lot of savings ... I'll just start with those now guys. I've decided to get rid of my permed hair once I get my braids off... is that the same thing as a BC ?? *confused* ... Anyways ... you guys have been an awesome bunch ... I promise to put up pictures from time to time to let y'all know how I'm doing ... *fingers crossed* ... wish me luck ... and I hope I have the strength to be what I want to be ... big.. bold ... black ... beautiful ... and above all ... naturallycurly ... ... <3
yiipeee !! ... just ordered my aubrey honey suckle rose sugar la la la la... shampoo & conditioner ... lol ... also got some grape seed oil ... thanks for the link to iHerb kinky ... got a lot of savings ... I'll just start with those now guys. I've decided to get rid of my permed hair once I get my braids off... is that the same thing as a BC ?? *confused* ... Anyways ... you guys have been an awesome bunch ... I promise to put up pictures from time to time to let y'all know how I'm doing ... *fingers crossed* ... wish me luck ... and I hope I have the strength to be what I want to be ... big.. bold ... black ... beautiful ... and above all ... naturallycurly ... ... <3
Originally Posted by Adabekee

ooh !! ... one more question, can Aubrey act as a leave-in too ??
You may want to take the Aubrey Organics HR and mix it with water and put it in a spray bottle and use it that way as your leave-in. It's a really thick conditioner.

I don't use aubrey as a leave-in but i do use it as a spritz to reset my hair or refresh my twist. I mix it is a spray bottle with castor oil and water.

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copy that Kinky ... thanks Booker ... thanks everyone !!
I am currently in braids what I have been doing is make sure i spray them with braid spray twice a day. Once when I wake up and once before i go to bed. Every couple of days, I put oil on my hands and rub it on the length of the braids where my real hair is. Ijust took down a few braids and my hair still felt soft. I also only co wash in braids. I used to use diluted shampoo but my hair got really dry. I do that every two weeks.

A good website to understand braid maintence is growafrohairlong.com. The author has a braid care routine to help grow longer healthy hair.

As for Aubrey Organics, I love it but leaving it in my hair leaves it kinda dull, and slightly coated. I would rinse most of it out.

I would also focus on the health of your natural hair as well as how to gently manage it as opposed to the texture. You will never know what you hair is going to be like until you cut off all the perm. No matter what at that point, you have to take whatever you parents and ancestors have given you. I only mention this because you mentioned your hair being 4z, then you said above all you wanted it to be naturally curly. Not all natural hair has a visible curl pattern. Sometimes we manipulate it to look curly, other times we can let it be its own cloudy, cottony,kinky goodness.
I would also focus on the health of your natural hair as well as how to gently manage it as opposed to the texture. You will never know what you hair is going to be like until you cut off all the perm. No matter what at that point, you have to take whatever you parents and ancestors have given you. I only mention this because you mentioned your hair being 4z, then you said above all you wanted it to be naturally curly. Not all natural hair has a visible curl pattern. Sometimes we manipulate it to look curly, other times we can let it be its own cloudy, cottony,kinky goodness.
Originally Posted by afrikurl
AGREED!!! I have primarily 4b hair with VERY LITTLE 4a/3c. Loose, my hair looks like cottony clouds and it shrinks to a knotted, dry mess if I let it dry loose so I HAVE to set my hair in braids and twists.

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