I love KBB nectar! It has the right amount of moisture without weighing me down. I use it as a rinse-out and a leave-in. So far it's been better than the milk, which may be attributed to the amount of oils.
FOTE is good for defining curls, but I don't get much hold from it. I've been using it under a gel (the last thing I'll give up to go all natural). Although tonight I tried Donna Marie's Coco Curly Butter instead of FOTE and I seem to have more spirals. Will know for sure how it holds up tomorrow after scrunching out. I'm still experimenting with that and the Lock & Twist pudding.