I've never used it by itself, but mainly layered over something else. Once I tried HEBE I realized I liked that better because it had a bit less crunch than the SMU. I just bought the TT gel last night and tried it out for the first time today. I have some good waves and curls that I wouldn't normally have, but I also used another new product so I'm not sure what it was that did it. I'm hoping the TT gel is the reason since it's so cheap and readily available.