I know exactly what you mean. When I first started using FSG I got no hold and poof. I took BB's comment about the amount to use more seriously and my hair was heavy, clumped and slimy. I powered through the feel of it, scrunched, plopped and WOW! I don't know if I can explain it any better than you did. I don't have a problem with curl formation but the "smoothness" of the curl and the ability for it to avoid "swelling" from humidity is key for me and what I deem to be exceptable hair.

I now use whatever I want to use as a leave-in and glob a ton of FSG on top of that. That's it; two products. Yeah, way cool!
Originally Posted by mpgirl
Me too mpgirl! Two products! I never thought I'd be able to do that.

Do you make your own? Do you add pectin for thickening?
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Med/high porosity; color treated; med density 2c/3a.

Summer: (when humid) co-wash & leave-in Matrix Biolage Cleansing Conditioner for Curly Hair. Ouidad Climate Control Heat & Humidity Gel.

Spring and Fall: co-wash Curl Junkie Repair Me! or CJ BeautiCurls Strengthening Hair Conditioner; CJ Curl Assurance Smoothing Lotion as a leave-in followed by CJ Curl Queen.

Winter add in CJ Coffee-Coco Curl Creme Lite.