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Old 10-02-2010, 04:24 PM   #1
 
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can anyone recommend a good detangler?
I am depressed. My hair is falling out and I have trouble detangling it. I can deal with the dry and brittle hair but not when it falls out. Help!
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Old 10-02-2010, 05:16 PM   #2
 
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Maybe you don't need a separate detangler?

Several years ago, I started to gently finger comb my leave-in conditioner through my hair first thing when I got out of the shower, before ever touching it with a comb. Actually, I barely even use my fingers; I put the LI on my palms and then sort of gently "flat-iron" my hair between my palms, then finger-comb. I barely have any tangles when I follow with a wide-tooth comb.

Prior to starting the above as my routine, if I tried to comb through my wet hair first and then apply LI, tons of tangles would meet my comb and I got breakage.

My 2 fave leave-ins are BWC and KCKT.
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Old 10-02-2010, 05:51 PM   #3
 
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thanks for the advice.
I have tried the flat iron type and finger style but I feel it only makes my hair funkier. I am not sure what it is. Nothing seems to work. I even spread out my hair in little parts and work thru it with my fingers before using the wide tooth comb.
I think it has alot to do with the conditioner or maybe not.
I tried oils but I noticed my hair does not react well to it . It seems to only make my hair even more tangled.

I don't know what I am doing wrong or what my hair is. I even sleep with a satin pillow, and pineapple head to avoid tangles..

This is so frustrating but I thank you for your help.
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Hair: naturally very dry and VERY porous
hair seems to be moody.
Does not seem to like oils
Does not like protein or too much?
Does not like rich products

So, I ask myself. What does it like? That is the question, and I'm on a mission.
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Old 10-02-2010, 06:28 PM   #4
 
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Have you tried the detangling spray by Curly Hair Solutions? I haven't tried it but just thought I'd mention it.
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Old 10-02-2010, 10:27 PM   #5
 
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I use my conditioner as detangler. Currently I am using YTC which I love. I put it in and just run my fingers through. Be sure your hair is wet and has plenty of slip.
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Old 10-02-2010, 11:16 PM   #6
 
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I love KCKT. I have also used YTC and noticed a excellent amount of slip (but not a much as the KCKT).
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:24 AM   #7
 
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I love KCKT. I have also used YTC and noticed a excellent amount of slip (but not a much as the KCKT).
KCKT is it kinky curly knot today? It has some good reviews but this product is always out of stock.

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Hair: naturally very dry and VERY porous
hair seems to be moody.
Does not seem to like oils
Does not like protein or too much?
Does not like rich products

So, I ask myself. What does it like? That is the question, and I'm on a mission.
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:52 AM   #8
 
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Do you have a Whole Foods near you? A lot of the WF stores are selling Kinky Curly products. I buy KCKT there. Not discounted, but at least I can get it when I need it.
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Old 10-03-2010, 02:10 PM   #9
 
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Best cheap option easily gotten on the ground is Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture Condish. The slip is excellent and it detangles like dream without being a pain to the wallet.

ITA with Knot Today, but you need to use more of the product to distribute and it costs like 12.99 a pop. Otherwise, its good as well.
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:12 PM   #10
 
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I just checked, treseme is on sale at riteaid , buy one get one half off.
I am going to give this a try. I read alot of good reviews on walgreens and on amazon, even on naturally curly. Also, its cheap ! at least compared to other brands. Though, I don't know why it has rubbing alcohol.
Here's an thread for those of you interested.
Silicone-free conditioners from Tresemme (Tresemme Naturals)

I washed my hair today( sunday) and as usual is a tangle nightmare. I literally spent close to 2 hours in the shower. How depressing. So, hopefully, this will give me the slip and detangle I need.. god willing
I'll keep you posted - my next wash should be on Weds, if I am lazy Thursday.
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Hair: naturally very dry and VERY porous
hair seems to be moody.
Does not seem to like oils
Does not like protein or too much?
Does not like rich products

So, I ask myself. What does it like? That is the question, and I'm on a mission.
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:14 PM   #11
 
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Best cheap option easily gotten on the ground is Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture Condish. The slip is excellent and it detangles like dream without being a pain to the wallet.

ITA with Knot Today, but you need to use more of the product to distribute and it costs like 12.99 a pop. Otherwise, its good as well.
Thanks girl. What does RO stand for?
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Does not like protein or too much?
Does not like rich products

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Do you have a Whole Foods near you? A lot of the WF stores are selling Kinky Curly products. I buy KCKT there. Not discounted, but at least I can get it when I need it.
Whole foods is an hour away but if I am near it , next time. I'll stop to grab one. I read really good reviews on this.
For now, on my next wash, I'll try tresemme.
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Does not like rich products

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Best cheap option easily gotten on the ground is Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture Condish. The slip is excellent and it detangles like dream without being a pain to the wallet.

ITA with Knot Today, but you need to use more of the product to distribute and it costs like 12.99 a pop. Otherwise, its good as well.
Thanks girl. What does RO stand for?
rinse out conditioner
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Old 10-05-2010, 10:19 PM   #14
 
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got tresemme. it was on sale at rite aid for 3.50!!

you can't beat that. I am trying it tomorrow.

hope it works! I'll get back with the results.
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:30 PM   #15
 
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Have you tried the detangling spray by Curly Hair Solutions? I haven't tried it but just thought I'd mention it.
It's called Slip detangler and it's great. I have it and all you do is spray in throughout your hair, wait 30 seconds and then gently detangle with fingers, or bone comb or whatever.
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Old 10-11-2010, 04:34 PM   #16
 
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aww man - I tried the tresemme conditioner and I am a bit dissapointed, especially after the rave reviews.

It helped a bit in detangling though my hair was not moisturized. It almost felt stringy. It helped a bit detangling while running water thru it. That tells me, it dries my hair more .

I am glad it worked for many of you.

luckily it was a cheap one.
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Hair: naturally very dry and VERY porous
hair seems to be moody.
Does not seem to like oils
Does not like protein or too much?
Does not like rich products

So, I ask myself. What does it like? That is the question, and I'm on a mission.
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Old 10-21-2010, 05:08 PM   #17
 
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I'm new to the pure CG routine, but as someone without a lot of $, I found that the tresemme naturals moisturizing doesn't really have the slip that I like, BUT GVP conditioning balm (the sally beauty knockoff of biolage conditioning balm) and giovanni leave in conditioner do.

Maybe give those a try. I got the giovanni from iherb, both things were about $5. That's in budget for me.

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Old 11-03-2010, 01:17 PM   #18
 
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If you want something inexpensive you could try using apple cider vinegar. I use it diluted with water as a final rinse after shampooing and it makes the hair feel detangled and soft as it restores the hair's PH.

You could try either doing a rinse then detangling or if you detangle before showering you could mix it with water in a spray bottle and apply it in sections and comb.
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Old 11-03-2010, 04:15 PM   #19
 
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Really tangly hair can be a few things:
  • too much protien
  • not enough protien
  • mineral build up
  • wrong kind of protien
  • not enough moisture
  • hair doesn't like ingredents in conditioner
Let's start off with the cheap simple stuff -

ACV - try using 3 tablespoons of ACV in your RO for 1 week. See if that makes it any better or worse.

If that doesn't work,

Baking Soda - try using 3 T of baking soda in your RO for 1 week. See if that makes it any better or worse.

If that doesn't work,

Go to Sally's and get their store brand Joico K Pak. See if that makes it better or worse.

If all of the above make it worse, post back and PM me. We'll try to help you keep working through the possible culprits.
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Is KCKT a good product to use if I want to two-strand twist my hair??
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