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Old 11-24-2011, 05:47 PM   #1
 
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Guess what I just read? That dying your hair in its natural state, is altering your hair. So, I guess I will never be natural because I love my highlights and color and I am not changing that to be any healthier, not at my age, and not with my gray sides. Sorry, but I have to do the dying But I am still trying to work with my own curl pattern
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Guess what I just read? That dying your hair in its natural state, is altering your hair. So, I guess I will never be natural because I love my highlights and color and I am not changing that to be any healthier, not at my age, and not with my gray sides. Sorry, but I have to do the dying But I am still trying to work with my own curl pattern
Where did you read this??
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:45 AM   #3
 
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I don't remember where I read it, exactly. But, thats what it stated that coloring the hair is altering its natural state. But, it has to be true because of the perioxide in it, that changes the color. You may want to ask your stylist.
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I think I read something like this too. I did read that henna isn't the same because it doesn't penetrate the hair shaft. I color my hair because I have a lot of grey. I started going grey in my early 20's (I blame my ex) and I don't want to look like an old hag! I was thinking about henna but I am afraid of it!
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:57 PM   #5
 
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I think I read something like this too. I did read that henna isn't the same because it doesn't penetrate the hair shaft. I color my hair because I have a lot of grey. I started going grey in my early 20's (I blame my ex) and I don't want to look like an old hag! I was thinking about henna but I am afraid of it!
I was afraid of henna too (I used perm hair coloring) but for the first time last week I actually tried henna (BAQ) and loved it. The Cond properties alone makes it worth it. BTW: I'm still natural regardless of what any article says. 


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Old 01-02-2012, 08:00 AM   #6
 
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I've watched and pondered this thread. I think the real question is this: what do YOU consider natural? Hair dye, particularly permanent ones, penetrate the cortex of the hair and permanently alter it, the same thing that a relaxer does. If you don't take special care of that hair, it is more fragile, more prone to breakage, and requires special care that the rest of the hair typically does not. As a result, many non-blacks use the term "going natural" to mean growing out hair color. For instance, here is a thread from longhaircommunity.com that illustrates exactly what I'm talking about: http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...ad.php?t=51155.

If being natural to you means not having a relaxer, then yes you're natural. If natural means not using chemicals, then you're not. Personally, to me being natural, as a global term, means not using chemicals in the hair. Then I don't have to worry about it having different definitions to different subsets of the population; it means the same thing to all.

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Old 01-02-2012, 09:14 AM   #7
 
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I think that on this website, most of us are talking about "naturally curly" hair and how to take care of it. Color is a whole different issue. So, when people talk about being natural, it's discussing curls that aren't altered by chemical treatments (relaxed, straightened, etc.), not what they do as far as color goes.

Many hair products--shampoo, conditioner, styling products, etc., have chemicals in them. If you use those, does that make you unnatural?? Our hair splitting is usually around what's Curly Girl and what's modified Curly Girl!
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I think I read something like this too. I did read that henna isn't the same because it doesn't penetrate the hair shaft. I color my hair because I have a lot of grey. I started going grey in my early 20's (I blame my ex) and I don't want to look like an old hag! I was thinking about henna but I am afraid of it!
If henna didn't penetrate the hair strand it wouldn't be permanent.
I've heard/seen these natural nazi like the OP describes, and some include henna in the 'if you do this you're not natural' list, because henna can loosen curls. Whatever! For me, when I talk about natural hair, I mean hair that is not permanently altered from it's natural texture or not altered in a way intended to change the texture. And even then, people can call natural what they want!
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I think "natural" means people who don't use chemical processes to alter their hair texture. So, if you coloured your hair or flat ironed your hair, you'd still be considered "natural".

I do know some who are "napptural" (sp?) and they are usually 3c to 4b, who don't use heat or hair dye (save for henna)

Ultimately, it's up to you and what you feel comfortable with. It's your hair.
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I have highlights. My hair (overall) is not natural. My texture is natural, same I was born with. My hair color is not that which I was born with...therefore, unnatural.

I don't get why people trip over point blank obvious facts. The people you call militant might just be viewing the facts objectively. And you might be projecting your own feelings about the undesirability of having unnatural hair onto them.
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^^ Ummm... Why?

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Old 02-01-2012, 10:09 AM   #12
 
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When I run into a fellow natural IRL and we get into a dialog about hair, one of the first questions usually asked is, "How long have you been natural?"

I have always responded back that "I have been relaxer-free since '92," even when the terminology they use is the word, "natural."

Since there are seemingly so many definitions of what "real natural hair" is, I just give them something that is irrefutable. It is absolutely true that I have not put a relaxer on my tresses for 20 years now.

Now, I do henna once a month and my curl pattern was loosened until I recently started adding amla to my paste. I also do not make my shampoos and conditioners from scratch and do indulge in shampoos and conditioners bought on the ground. I've heard some say that this is unnatural due to the ingredients having chemicals in them or being actual chemicals. I mean where do we draw the line?

Frankly, I think folks need to take a chill pill on all that and just go sit down somewhere. It's really not that serious...
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Old 02-01-2012, 10:23 AM   #13
 
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I think dye is confusing because several women play with color but do not stay consistent with it like you would a relaxer. Like, I dyed my hair about 5 months after my bc and didn't touch it for about a year and a half. So when people asked me if I was natural, do I need to map out my hair history when the overall shape of my curls is the same? Seems tiring. IME people usually ask things like this to throw shade or to find any kind of reason for you to not have nappy hair. They need to worry about their own head.

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