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I've also been using LUSH caca bars for a couple years now with great success, but have heard a little about using henna and I'm definitely curious! I'm also overwhelmed with all the info out there and have no idea where to start. I have dark brown hair with redish highlights in the light, and I'd like to stay close to my natural colour, any advice for a beginner??
Thanks a ton!
Well, my biggest advice is read read read! Be very well aware of what to expect.

Although you've already used LUSH henna, just a friendly reminder that henna is permanent and only dyes red. If it's not red, it's not pure henna – the colors other than "Red" have Indigo and Cassia in them, which is fine if you're aware. (If you bleach your hair after indigo, it will be green! Word of warning.)

Also, some people experience curl loosening with henna. My hair's cuticle feels much smoother after a henna treatment and my curls hang a bit more. However, I also have a strong curl pattern.

1) Where to get and how to prepare henna
I'd suggest you buy Body Art Quality (BAQ) henna from online (preferred – try Henna Sooq, Butters-and-Bars, Mehandi.com) or from the Indian grocery. You don't need a difficult recipe: just a mildly acidic juice (lemon can be a bit drying; orange or apple works) or strong tea. Let the mix rest covered in plastic for the necessary time for dye release!! This is super important. Henna Sooq has a good guide for this online.

2) How long should I leave it on?
Depends on how much control you want over the color. You can do strand tests to figure out how it will change your hair color. For me, I want as much color/conditioning as I can, so I wear it overnight.

3) How do you rinse it out efficiently?
I suggest using the pressure from the bathtub faucet to your advantage. Other people fill the tub and dunk their hair in and shake it out. Using a cheap conditioner like Vo5 or Suave is good once most of the grit is out.

Hope that helps!
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I've also been using LUSH caca bars for a couple years now with great success, but have heard a little about using henna and I'm definitely curious! I'm also overwhelmed with all the info out there and have no idea where to start. I have dark brown hair with redish highlights in the light, and I'd like to stay close to my natural colour, any advice for a beginner??
Thanks a ton!
Well, my biggest advice is read read read! Be very well aware of what to expect.

Although you've already used LUSH henna, just a friendly reminder that henna is permanent and only dyes red. If it's not red, it's not pure henna – the colors other than "Red" have Indigo and Cassia in them, which is fine if you're aware. (If you bleach your hair after indigo, it will be green! Word of warning.)

Also, some people experience curl loosening with henna. My hair's cuticle feels much smoother after a henna treatment and my curls hang a bit more. However, I also have a strong curl pattern.

1) Where to get and how to prepare henna
I'd suggest you buy Body Art Quality (BAQ) henna from online (preferred – try Henna Sooq, Butters-and-Bars, Mehandi.com) or from the Indian grocery. You don't need a difficult recipe: just a mildly acidic juice (lemon can be a bit drying; orange or apple works) or strong tea. Let the mix rest covered in plastic for the necessary time for dye release!! This is super important. Henna Sooq has a good guide for this online.

2) How long should I leave it on?
Depends on how much control you want over the color. You can do strand tests to figure out how it will change your hair color. For me, I want as much color/conditioning as I can, so I wear it overnight.

3) How do you rinse it out efficiently?
I suggest using the pressure from the bathtub faucet to your advantage. Other people fill the tub and dunk their hair in and shake it out. Using a cheap conditioner like Vo5 or Suave is good once most of the grit is out.

Hope that helps!
Thanks poemaXX, that was super helpful! I'm excited to give this a try. I've read about mixing the henna with coconut milk as well. Do you think this provides the acid to release the colour, or would it be an extra conditioner added in the mix? Thanks again for your advice!
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I've also been using LUSH caca bars for a couple years now with great success, but have heard a little about using henna and I'm definitely curious! I'm also overwhelmed with all the info out there and have no idea where to start. I have dark brown hair with redish highlights in the light, and I'd like to stay close to my natural colour, any advice for a beginner??
Thanks a ton!
Well, my biggest advice is read read read! Be very well aware of what to expect.

Although you've already used LUSH henna, just a friendly reminder that henna is permanent and only dyes red. If it's not red, it's not pure henna – the colors other than "Red" have Indigo and Cassia in them, which is fine if you're aware. (If you bleach your hair after indigo, it will be green! Word of warning.)

Also, some people experience curl loosening with henna. My hair's cuticle feels much smoother after a henna treatment and my curls hang a bit more. However, I also have a strong curl pattern.

1) Where to get and how to prepare henna
I'd suggest you buy Body Art Quality (BAQ) henna from online (preferred – try Henna Sooq, Butters-and-Bars, Mehandi.com) or from the Indian grocery. You don't need a difficult recipe: just a mildly acidic juice (lemon can be a bit drying; orange or apple works) or strong tea. Let the mix rest covered in plastic for the necessary time for dye release!! This is super important. Henna Sooq has a good guide for this online.

2) How long should I leave it on?
Depends on how much control you want over the color. You can do strand tests to figure out how it will change your hair color. For me, I want as much color/conditioning as I can, so I wear it overnight.

3) How do you rinse it out efficiently?
I suggest using the pressure from the bathtub faucet to your advantage. Other people fill the tub and dunk their hair in and shake it out. Using a cheap conditioner like Vo5 or Suave is good once most of the grit is out.

Hope that helps!
Thanks poemaXX, that was super helpful! I'm excited to give this a try. I've read about mixing the henna with coconut milk as well. Do you think this provides the acid to release the colour, or would it be an extra conditioner added in the mix? Thanks again for your advice!
Some people do fancy mixes with all sorts of stuff, but I try to keep it simple. The pH of coconut milk is 6.1 - 7.0, so I'd guess it be an additional conditioner. (Some folks recommend apple juice as a gentle acid: 3.3 - 3.9. That's what I'm using today!) Coconut milk has its benefits, but I want to get the most out of the henna itself! It also makes it easier to do trouble shooting if your hair feels funny afterwards. I'm not sure if the protein in the coconut milk plus the protein-like effect of the henna might be drying...

pH reference at Food and Foodstuff - pH Values
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Well, my biggest advice is read read read! Be very well aware of what to expect.

Although you've already used LUSH henna, just a friendly reminder that henna is permanent and only dyes red. If it's not red, it's not pure henna – the colors other than "Red" have Indigo and Cassia in them, which is fine if you're aware. (If you bleach your hair after indigo, it will be green! Word of warning.)

Also, some people experience curl loosening with henna. My hair's cuticle feels much smoother after a henna treatment and my curls hang a bit more. However, I also have a strong curl pattern.

1) Where to get and how to prepare henna
I'd suggest you buy Body Art Quality (BAQ) henna from online (preferred – try Henna Sooq, Butters-and-Bars, Mehandi.com) or from the Indian grocery. You don't need a difficult recipe: just a mildly acidic juice (lemon can be a bit drying; orange or apple works) or strong tea. Let the mix rest covered in plastic for the necessary time for dye release!! This is super important. Henna Sooq has a good guide for this online.

2) How long should I leave it on?
Depends on how much control you want over the color. You can do strand tests to figure out how it will change your hair color. For me, I want as much color/conditioning as I can, so I wear it overnight.

3) How do you rinse it out efficiently?
I suggest using the pressure from the bathtub faucet to your advantage. Other people fill the tub and dunk their hair in and shake it out. Using a cheap conditioner like Vo5 or Suave is good once most of the grit is out.

Hope that helps!
Thanks poemaXX, that was super helpful! I'm excited to give this a try. I've read about mixing the henna with coconut milk as well. Do you think this provides the acid to release the colour, or would it be an extra conditioner added in the mix? Thanks again for your advice!
Some people do fancy mixes with all sorts of stuff, but I try to keep it simple. The pH of coconut milk is 6.1 - 7.0, so I'd guess it be an additional conditioner. (Some folks recommend apple juice as a gentle acid: 3.3 - 3.9. That's what I'm using today!) Coconut milk has its benefits, but I want to get the most out of the henna itself! It also makes it easier to do trouble shooting if your hair feels funny afterwards. I'm not sure if the protein in the coconut milk plus the protein-like effect of the henna might be drying...

pH reference at Food and Foodstuff - pH Values
Great! Thanks so much for your help, I think I'll start my experimenting with apple juice and see where it goes from there.
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I was very uneasy about trying henna, since I thought there was a chance that using henna on naturaklly red hair might turn my color Ronald McDonald orange, or something horrible like that. RCW suggested a glaze: mixing henna with conditioner (henna that had been prepared properly, of course), so I'd have a tinge of color, rather than full impact at first.

I support that method for the nervous. (Btw, I got more brave and now use it full strength all the time.)
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I was very uneasy about trying henna, since I thought there was a chance that using henna on naturaklly red hair might turn my color Ronald McDonald orange, or something horrible like that. RCW suggested a glaze: mixing henna with conditioner (henna that had been prepared properly, of course), so I'd have a tinge of color, rather than full impact at first.

I support that method for the nervous. (Btw, I got more brave and now use it full strength all the time.)
Trying out a henna gloss first is a great suggestion.
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Meeee! Nupur henna I like it. I've henna'd twice. First time it stained my hands and nails so red but once you figure out you should wear gloves, you'll appreciate the process so much more. I want to try the red raj though.
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Meeee! Nupur henna I like it. I've henna'd twice. First time it stained my hands and nails so red but once you figure out you should wear gloves, you'll appreciate the process so much more. I want to try the red raj though.
Word on the street is that Henna Sooq's Red Raj will be back in stock on November 19th! I'm excited to try it as well.
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PSA : Oyin Handmade Hair Dew makes my post-henna hair feel so silky!!!! When I washed my henna out this morning and DT'd, my hair still felt a little stiff. I smoothed on Hair Dew (nothing else!) and let it dry – and it looks and feels AWESOME!!! In love. Smitten. Srsly.
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Yes! I'm hennaing now thanks to your advice
The Mehandi Full Color Henna with Amla and Shikaki gave me amazing curls and a vibrant red color! It was also SOOO much better than Rainbow, and it was only $3. Love henna!
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Yes! I'm hennaing now thanks to your advice
The Mehandi Full Color Henna with Amla and Shikaki gave me amazing curls and a vibrant red color! It was also SOOO much better than Rainbow, and it was only $3. Love henna!
Yay! Glad to hear your enjoying the benefits of henna now.
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My name is Dora and I am a henna addict. I love henna for the color and conditioning. I have been using henna for about 6 years now. I just recently started just doing root touch ups. I mix red raj and jamilla henna together with some hibiscus powder and all I can say is "wow" as far as the color goes and my greys are completely covered.
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I think I might do a henna treatment next week... I should set up a proper schedule!

Somewhat off topic, but I did an oil treatment on my hair recently and noticed it hangs more than in the picture I posted earlier on this thread. Thought I'd include it for reference.

1)After oil treatment
2)Before oil treatment

Hair is completely dry in both pics!

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Here are some pictures of how the henna is turning out:

1) a picture taken in bright bathroom lighting that picks up on orange glow the hair had yesterday
2) a close-up of my hair today in natural light: very shiny and visible red tones
3) my curls are even and springy! They do hang more when wet than they used to, but look shiny and defined when dry, even with less product.
4) here is my attempt at capturing one of my grays. They are reddish-orange right now, but blend in really nicely as highlights. I had a hard time finding one! Yay!
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Who is using henna currently?-2012-11-27-09.46.54.jpg   Who is using henna currently?-2012-10-31-17.02.14.jpg  
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I want to try Henna, but I need to do A LOT of research first. All I know (at least I think I know) so far is that it's a natural permanent hair color. All this "Henna Sooq" and "BAQ" and "Red Raj confuses me >___<

Google time!

:: UPDATE ::

Ok, so I just went to the Henna Sooq website and it says they have multiple hair color results. I thought it was just red? What's going on here? ;n;
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I want to try Henna, but I need to do A LOT of research first. All I know (at least I think I know) so far is that it's a natural permanent hair color. All this "Henna Sooq" and "BAQ" and "Red Raj confuses me >___<

Google time!

:: UPDATE ::

Ok, so I just went to the Henna Sooq website and it says they have multiple hair color results. I thought it was just red? What's going on here? ;n;
Hi sakiohma – Yes, henna is red and only red. However, henna can be mixed with other herbs (cassia, indigo, walnut powder, etc) to dye hair different shades. These herbs work differently to henna though and are often not as permanent (e.g. cassia) or cannot be used alone (indigo w/o henna is green!)

Definitely do as much research as you can. Let us know if you have any questions and I'll do my best to help.
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I want to try Henna, but I need to do A LOT of research first. All I know (at least I think I know) so far is that it's a natural permanent hair color. All this "Henna Sooq" and "BAQ" and "Red Raj confuses me >___<

Google time!

:: UPDATE ::

Ok, so I just went to the Henna Sooq website and it says they have multiple hair color results. I thought it was just red? What's going on here? ;n;
Hi sakiohma – Yes, henna is red and only red. However, henna can be mixed with other herbs (cassia, indigo, walnut powder, etc) to dye hair different shades. These herbs work differently to henna though and are often not as permanent (e.g. cassia) or cannot be used alone (indigo w/o henna is green!)

Definitely do as much research as you can. Let us know if you have any questions and I'll do my best to help.
Thank you
Maybe I'll try the Red Raj too once they restock it. I can't believe it's all so amazingly cheap!
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Well, my biggest advice is read read read! Be very well aware of what to expect.

Although you've already used LUSH henna, just a friendly reminder that henna is permanent and only dyes red. If it's not red, it's not pure henna – the colors other than "Red" have Indigo and Cassia in them, which is fine if you're aware. (If you bleach your hair after indigo, it will be green! Word of warning.)

Also, some people experience curl loosening with henna. My hair's cuticle feels much smoother after a henna treatment and my curls hang a bit more. However, I also have a strong curl pattern.

1) Where to get and how to prepare henna
I'd suggest you buy Body Art Quality (BAQ) henna from online (preferred – try Henna Sooq, Butters-and-Bars, Mehandi.com) or from the Indian grocery. You don't need a difficult recipe: just a mildly acidic juice (lemon can be a bit drying; orange or apple works) or strong tea. Let the mix rest covered in plastic for the necessary time for dye release!! This is super important. Henna Sooq has a good guide for this online.

2) How long should I leave it on?
Depends on how much control you want over the color. You can do strand tests to figure out how it will change your hair color. For me, I want as much color/conditioning as I can, so I wear it overnight.

3) How do you rinse it out efficiently?
I suggest using the pressure from the bathtub faucet to your advantage. Other people fill the tub and dunk their hair in and shake it out. Using a cheap conditioner like Vo5 or Suave is good once most of the grit is out.

Hope that helps!
Thanks poemaXX, that was super helpful! I'm excited to give this a try. I've read about mixing the henna with coconut milk as well. Do you think this provides the acid to release the colour, or would it be an extra conditioner added in the mix? Thanks again for your advice!
Some people do fancy mixes with all sorts of stuff, but I try to keep it simple. The pH of coconut milk is 6.1 - 7.0, so I'd guess it be an additional conditioner. (Some folks recommend apple juice as a gentle acid: 3.3 - 3.9. That's what I'm using today!) Coconut milk has its benefits, but I want to get the most out of the henna itself! It also makes it easier to do trouble shooting if your hair feels funny afterwards. I'm not sure if the protein in the coconut milk plus the protein-like effect of the henna might be drying...

pH reference at Food and Foodstuff - pH Values
This is probably a dumb question, but how does the pH level effect the henna mixture? Is it best to mix it with a low pH level or a high level? Can I just buy regular ol' apple juice from the grocery store?

Sorry for all the questions ^_^;;
but I am so serious! I am going to do this
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Everything in this thread makes so much more sense now. When I first visited this thread, I felt like all this henna talk was a foreign language. All thanks to Poema and a lot of Youtube videos, I understand it much more now. Now I just have to figure out which type of henna I'd like to use. The Lush Caca bars are starting to look good.
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Thanks poemaXX, that was super helpful! I'm excited to give this a try. I've read about mixing the henna with coconut milk as well. Do you think this provides the acid to release the colour, or would it be an extra conditioner added in the mix? Thanks again for your advice!
Some people do fancy mixes with all sorts of stuff, but I try to keep it simple. The pH of coconut milk is 6.1 - 7.0, so I'd guess it be an additional conditioner. (Some folks recommend apple juice as a gentle acid: 3.3 - 3.9. That's what I'm using today!) Coconut milk has its benefits, but I want to get the most out of the henna itself! It also makes it easier to do trouble shooting if your hair feels funny afterwards. I'm not sure if the protein in the coconut milk plus the protein-like effect of the henna might be drying...

pH reference at Food and Foodstuff - pH Values
This is probably a dumb question, but how does the pH level effect the henna mixture? Is it best to mix it with a low pH level or a high level? Can I just buy regular ol' apple juice from the grocery store?

Sorry for all the questions ^_^;;
but I am so serious! I am going to do this
Not a dumb question at all! You need an acidic i.e. low pH liquid in your mix in order to break down the cellulose in the henna plant powder's cell walls and make the dye accesible. Regular apple juice is a great thing to mix it with!
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Everything in this thread makes so much more sense now. When I first visited this thread, I felt like all this henna was a foreign language. All thanks to Poema and a lot of Youtube videos. Now I just have to figure out which type of henna I'd like to use. The Lush Caca bars are starting to look good.
I watched so many YouTube videos before making the jump as well!

LUSH Les Cacas were a good place to start for me since they're so simple to mix up. However, I really prefer henna powder. I get stronger color (and therefore conditioning) from the powder, and I find it much easier to remove without LUSH's cocoa butter base. They're also quite pricey. However, if you're hesitant about trying henna, definitely try Les Cacas! They do come in colors that include indigo (all except the Rouge), so if you plan on bleaching your hair ever and don't want a greenish tinge, stick to the Rouge! HTH!
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