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Old 07-06-2013, 08:46 AM   #1
 
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Default Ology soap bars

So I'm not sure this is really the best place for this post (if it belongs somewhere else, please let me know) but I have a shampoo bar/soap bar question and I figured someone could give me their input. I was at Walgreens the other day and picked up a 3-pack of Ology soap bars. I love shampoo bars and am currently using Bobeam, but I'd like to be able to use something I can find easily on the ground. Anyway, I am far from a curly chemist and I just wanted to see if anyone can tell me whether this soap bar would be OK to use in my hair? Here are the ingredients for the Lemongrass & Olive Oil type, which is what I bought:

Sodium Palmate , WATER (AQUA) , Sodium Palm Kernelate , glycerin , Natural Fragrance , Olea Europaea Fruit Oil (Olive) , titanium dioxide (CI 77891) , sodium chloride , tetrasodium edta , Tetrasodium Etidronate

The only ingredient that I'm a little concerned about is the sodium chloride. I'm thinking it might be drying, but it's pretty far down on the list so maybe it will be ok? Is there anything else in here that would be bad for hair? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
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Old 07-07-2013, 07:21 AM   #2
 
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Most soap bars are alkaline pH (7++), they damage both skin (~5.5) and hair (pH ~4.5), TBH the salt is the least of your worries.

"Another very important ingredient to avoid for long, curly hair especially is soaps. In the past, I have written an article cautioning users of soap to be careful, but basically concluding that it was probably okay to use soaps with an acidic rinse and lots of moisturizing agents. Based on the following information obtained from the research of Dr. Ali Syed (a hair care researcher who specializes in African and curly hair), I cannot in good conscience advocate use of any soap products on curly hair.

Soap molecules are salts of fatty acids found in plants and animal fats. They are somewhat alkaline and cause the hair to swell and the cuticle to raise up away from the surface of the hair shaft. These molecules are then able to penetrate through the cuticle and into the CMC where they neutralize the fatty acids in the lipid layer, rendering them water soluble. The fatty acids are then rinsed away in the shower and are gone forever. Use of soap to cleanse one’s hair, especially long curly hair, seems to be a really effective way of permanently destroying the cuticle layer and making the hair very highly porous. This is an example of why natural may not always be superior. It is no surprise that researchers have invested years and many millions (billions) of dollars to develop more gentle cleansers for our hair.
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:36 AM   #3
 
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Thanks Firefox, I did read that article a while back too. But I only use the soap bars once a week and I follow with an ACV rinse to neutralize the PH. I'm low porosity already and I haven't noticed any negative effects on my hair or changes in my porosity since I started using them over a year ago. I'll do a little more research on the ingredients and see what I come up with

Thanks again!
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Low porosity, fine hair but LOTS of it!
Loves protein. Dislikes butters and heavy oils.
Working toward natural products and streamlining!!
Current Loves: JCCC, Desert Essence Coconut Conditioner, AG Recoil, CK Coil Jam
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Old 07-07-2013, 09:02 PM   #4
 
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Thanks Firefox, I did read that article a while back too. But I only use the soap bars once a week and I follow with an ACV rinse to neutralize the PH. I'm low porosity already and I haven't noticed any negative effects on my hair or changes in my porosity since I started using them over a year ago. I'll do a little more research on the ingredients and see what I come up with

Thanks again!
Resetting the pH does not undo the damage done to the skin or hair the acid mantle and f-layer are more complex than that, your skin flora takes more than a week to recover.

If you want to use something 'soapy' consider soap nuts or soap wort, these are acidic truly natural cleansers humans have been using since the stone age. Bar soap was invented to degrease household items and fabrics, not delicate skin.
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CO-wash: Inecto coconut
Treatments: Komaza Matani, coconut oil, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Experimenting with: going back to basics

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