Shampoo Bar Questions

Hello,

my first shampoo bar (not from Chagrin Valley) arrived today and I allready washed my hair with it.
Still waiting for it to fully dry.

Question to all: Did it took some time until your hair got used to it and start responding well? Or did you immediatly got pleasing results?
small 3bs or big 3cs -- you name it, fine, low-ish porosity
german curly
1st May curls (picture)
short pixie curls (picture)
What works well, so far:
Natural Shampoo Bars
i+m repair hemp oil low-poo, conditioners from Alverde, AOGPB
honey, ACV Rinses, yogurt PTs
Logona Conditioner Spray, Sun Dance AVG,
KCKT, KCCC
Will try soon: FSG, Protein Spray, Protein Treatment and Caitlin's Conditioner from SS
Would like to try: stuff from CJ, AO MM, stuff from Shecentit

Hello,

my first shampoo bar (not from Chagrin Valley) arrived today and I allready washed my hair with it.
Still waiting for it to fully dry.

Question to all: Did it took some time until your hair got used to it and start responding well? Or did you immediatly got pleasing results?
Originally Posted by zitroma
My first time was WOW!!!

With the Chagrin Valley bar it was dry and frizzy--just awful. Would never have used another if that was my first. It does take hair a few uses to acclimate to using the bars. That "waxy" feeling after you rinse the soap bar gets better. It totally disappears after rinse out conditioner.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix and CCCC
Hello,

my first shampoo bar (not from Chagrin Valley) arrived today and I allready washed my hair with it.
Still waiting for it to fully dry.

Question to all: Did it took some time until your hair got used to it and start responding well? Or did you immediatly got pleasing results?
Originally Posted by zitroma
It takes some time for my hair to get used to it if I haven't used them in a while. If you mix some apple cider vinegar with some water, and rinse your hair with this mix after you wash with the shampoo bar. This should help your hair adjust.
3a, medium texture, low porosity(?)
Poo: KC Come Clean
Rinse-out Condish: Jessicurl Too Shea
Leave-in: KCKT
Styling Products: KCCC, HETT/HESMU, Joiwhip
Weekly Treatment: Jessicurl Weekly Deep Conditioner
Monthly Treatment: Henna

Hair Pics (most I've hidden from public view but if you want to see more, PM me and I'll open up the security on them): http://flickr.com/photos/eponaaran/s...7610671796089/
Hello,

my first shampoo bar (not from Chagrin Valley) arrived today and I allready washed my hair with it.
Still waiting for it to fully dry.

Question to all: Did it took some time until your hair got used to it and start responding well? Or did you immediatly got pleasing results?
Originally Posted by zitroma

After using a shampoo bar for the first time, my hair felt slightly waxy but doing an ACV rinse after helps. My hair has become accustomed to shampoo bars now and I hardly use an ACV rinse.
Blessed Princess Diamante, High Archivist of the Thrifty Trinitarians in the Order of the Curly Crusaders
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Last Relaxer: July 31st, 2008
BC: 14th August, 2009
Favourite Product Line: None at the moment
HGs: Amla, brahmi, maka, neem, hibiscus and fenugreek powders.

Thanks for the tip with the ACV rinse after using a shampoo bar, luckily I rinsed with a conditioner afterwards which has got a good amount of citric acid in it. I'll consider the ACV for the next time.


My first time was WOW!!!

With the Chagrin Valley bar it was dry and frizzy--just awful. Would never have used another if that was my first. It does take hair a few uses to acclimate to using the bars. That "waxy" feeling after you rinse the soap bar gets better. It totally disappears after rinse out conditioner.
Originally Posted by kathymack
hehe, my first time was WOW! as well. Really loved the result after my hair were fully dried. And the waxy feeling disappeared after rinsing with conditioner as you said
small 3bs or big 3cs -- you name it, fine, low-ish porosity
german curly
1st May curls (picture)
short pixie curls (picture)
What works well, so far:
Natural Shampoo Bars
i+m repair hemp oil low-poo, conditioners from Alverde, AOGPB
honey, ACV Rinses, yogurt PTs
Logona Conditioner Spray, Sun Dance AVG,
KCKT, KCCC
Will try soon: FSG, Protein Spray, Protein Treatment and Caitlin's Conditioner from SS
Would like to try: stuff from CJ, AO MM, stuff from Shecentit

Three questions:

How often do you use the shampoo bars? And how do you know when you need to use them?

And, about how long does it take for the waxy feeling to go away? As you said, using a conditioner helped but as I was washing, my hair felt very coated and waxy, which I thought might not be a good sign.
Growing out my curls. White hair, fine to medium texture but a lot of it. Low to medium porosity. Botticelli curls -- 2c/3a mix. My hair loves protein.
CG since '08.

Cleanser: (Summer) Beautiful Curls Nurturing shampoo or Kathymack's soap bars
Co-wash: TJ Nourish
Protein: CJ Repair Me
Styling products: (Summer) BB Styling Mudd
Gel: (Summer) BRHG, Upper Management gel.
Once upon a time, I was a daily shampoo/conditioner user--no styling products. About three years ago, I "weaned" myself to every three days. So when I started with the natural bars, I did every three days. We had a cold, dry winter--so, I got to every five to seven days. I'm back to my regular schedule now that the weather has warmed up, although some days I forget. I'm older, so no longer have the oily scalp/hair I had when I was young. I guess it arbitrary. It's only when it's really hot, that I feel a "need" to cleanse scalp.

Your hair does acclimate to using the bars after a while. That "waxy" feeling isn't as strong. It's never totally gone away, for me. When the bars were the rage two summers ago, it was discussed a lot. It's very typical, not a bad sign at all.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Aloe Fix and CCCC
Thanks, Kathymack. I like the shampoo bars I got from you but my hair feels sticky until I put in the conditioner. I have been using the bar once or twice a week but I am trying to figure out what my curls want, and I am not feeling very patient. Likely this is due to the mess that my last cut made of my hair.
I am thinking of going back to the Deva-trained stylist I saw a couple years ago, but that is about eight hours away and is a major investment in time. As you pointed out in another post, having a good cut makes a big difference. But I am thinking that I might as well wait until my hair grows in a bit more. Not sure that they can do much with my hair as it is now.
Growing out my curls. White hair, fine to medium texture but a lot of it. Low to medium porosity. Botticelli curls -- 2c/3a mix. My hair loves protein.
CG since '08.

Cleanser: (Summer) Beautiful Curls Nurturing shampoo or Kathymack's soap bars
Co-wash: TJ Nourish
Protein: CJ Repair Me
Styling products: (Summer) BB Styling Mudd
Gel: (Summer) BRHG, Upper Management gel.
I'm a little confused. These shampoo bars, are they any different from a regular bar of soap? I bought this all natural soap bar and I'm thinking of trying it out. Here are the ingredients:

Olive oil, palm kernel oil, distilled water, coconut oil, safflower oil, sodium hydroxide, sweet almond oil, castor oil; essential oils of lemon and lavender; red sandalwood powder; annatto seed powder.

Can I use it on my hair? How do I use it? How much do I apply? How often do you find you need to cleanse? Sorry, I'm a bit of a newbie!
Originally Posted by Lollipop
I used the Chagrin Valley soaps for a while and also the soaps that KathyMack sells. Very quickly I looked up the ingredients from my favorite Chagrin Valley bar and this is what I found:

Saponified oils of olive, babassu, unrefined shea butter, and castor bean; and filtered rainwater.

I'm not a soap maker but after some research it looks like the one ingredient that made me nervous in your bar, the sodium hydroxide, is actually part of the saponification process. So I'm guessing your bar is probably fine to use as a shampoo bar.
Originally Posted by EponaBlackhorse
Thanks for the reply! I have been carefully experimenting with my soap bar and I think I've got it! I follow up with an ACV rinse because it makes my hair so silky !!! So I went on the website of the soap company and they said all the sodium hydroxide(lye) is gone from the final product. CV bars use the the same thing too. I ordered the cafe moreno because I love all things coffee and , I can't wait! While I love my soap bars, they are a little pricier than CV ones (but they're so much prettier!!!!) I think they will be more of my decorative/pampering treat. I'm surprised more people don't know about them. Seriously, check out the website sarvasoap.com, even just to look at the soaps (gallery ones are the prettiest). I can get mine cheaper than they retail on the website since they're local. I'm not trying to enable any PJism, jut trying to spread the good word.
I just ordered some sample of CV bars, and I cant wait for them to get here.

My goodies;
Ayurvedic Herb Shampoo
Cafe Moreno Shampoo
Olive Babassu Shampoo
Olive and Shea Soap
3c/4aMCiii normal/low porosity med elasticty

Shampoo- JC Hydrating Invigorating poo, Alaffia Shea & Virgin Coconut Enriching Shampoo, CV poo bars
Rinse out- Natures gate hemp, GSAS
Leave in- GDLI, Beautiful Curls Curl Activating Leave in
DT- Still working on that
Styler- Ecostyler Crystal, Queen Helene Royal Curl Creme
Sealer- castor, Shea butter,jojoba oil

I don't know how well I'll keep it up, my blog The Lions Mane
How can you tell if your hair hates protein? What happens to the hair? Is it all proteins?
Tara

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