Shampoo Bar Questions

I've been fooling around with the shampoo bars and I think I'm going to really like them. I'm wondering if anybody finds that they need to avoid proteins in these? I needed to avoid them in regular conditioners and styling products but I suspect it won't be a problem with the bars.

Also, does anybody have trouble with soap scum from the bars? I eliminated bar soap many, many years ago because I hate cleaning the tub and shower floor so I'm wondering if I'm committing myself to a life of scrubbing if I fall in love with these.

Thanks,

M
I love my CV bars, and don't find that they leave the soap scum that the mass produced bars leave on the tub.

I can't say they leave no residue on the tub, but I don't find I need to scrub the tub like I used to.

I am trying to transition my husband to CV bars. I am going to make a sample order of the more astringent bars for him.
Growing out my curls. White hair, fine to medium texture but a lot of it. Low to medium porosity. Botticelli curls -- 2c/3a mix. My hair loves protein.
CG since '08.

Cleanser: (Summer) Beautiful Curls Nurturing shampoo or Kathymack's soap bars
Co-wash: TJ Nourish
Protein: CJ Repair Me
Styling products: (Summer) BB Styling Mudd
Gel: (Summer) BRHG, Upper Management gel.
Thanks ... that's good to know. The guy gets awfully tired of having to use up my not so favorite products. He "just wants to use the same thing all the time." His last comment was that we aren't going to use anything that leaves soap scum! We are remodeling and using those little round rocks on the floor of our shower so I definitely don't want to use something that's going to leave more than the minimum for me to scrub.

M
memes - I had the same concerns as you regarding the protein issue. My hair always hated protein, especially wheat. I was unsure because many of the samples I ordered initially, contained either wheat germ or wheat germ oil. I have been pleasantly surprised how my hair does not react to these proteins at all! Not sure why that is, but my hair feels clean and soft with each one I've tried. I'm hooked.

I can't answer the soap scum question.
misspam,

The protein is at least as important as the soap scum Thanks for getting back to me....I ordered all sorts of additional samples this morning with blatant disregard for protein so I was hoping that it wouldn't be a problem.

memes
Oh, dear, sorry to barge in here, but did you say protein? I ordered mine too with no thought to that! Please keep us posted on how your hair reacts to the proteins in the bars! I am going to look later at the bars I ordered!
I don't think this was directed at me but I'll add to the confusion. I ordered:

Chamomile Citrus Shampoo
Rosemary Mint Shampoo
Chocolate Almond Soap
Honey Butter Soap Sample
Orange Creamsicle Soap

There are a couple of others I'd like to try (Marshmallow Bambussa and something with Lime)that weren't available so I'm sure I'll be placing another order in a few weeks...I'll have a lifetime supply of samples

I ordered a full size of the Chamomile Citrus as I've been using that with really good results.

M
I eyeballed the ingredients and they all had wheat protein of some nature.

I ordered Chamomile and Citrus, nettle and the Rosemary Mint.

I am going to keep trying them and see what happens!
ajane,

I used the Chamomile Citrus for several days in a row with no problem....I don't think it was one of the ones with protein though. I suspect that my problem may have been with hydrolized proteins found in most products as I definitely has protein problems when I was using mainstream products....I would notice after a single day of using any kind of leave in or styling product with protein other than silk.

Good luck with the bars...

memes
Memes, good point! It is nice using products that aren't as processed! My fourth CV shampoo bar wash was today. My hair is still wet and I can't wait to see the results! But none of that protein dry stringy frizzy yuck so far! I am loving the Chamomile and Citrus and desperately resisting the urge to order the full sized bar. I am trying to wait until some of the other bars I want to try are ready, however, I am afraid the C and C flavor will be out by then!
Hmmm...I haven't tried the Chamomile & Citrus yet-sounds like I have to make another order soon! I say, if you like the sample that much, it can't hurt to order a bar while it's in stock. I gather from others that use them that it's good to rotate, so at least you know you'll have it available. But-to make it really worthwhile you have to order more than one bar-yes?
Hmmm...I haven't tried the Chamomile & Citrus yet-sounds like I have to make another order soon! I say, if you like the sample that much, it can't hurt to order a bar while it's in stock. I gather from others that use them that it's good to rotate, so at least you know you'll have it available. But-to make it really worthwhile you have to order more than one bar-yes?
Originally Posted by Curly Girl Fla
LOL You are SUCH an enabler!
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Products: Suave Coconut condish, Giovanni Direct Leave-In, FSG or KCCC, AfroVeda Shea-Amla Cream
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WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THESE SHAMPOO BARS?
Only you can make the right decisions for yourself.
WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THESE SHAMPOO BARS?
Originally Posted by BumbleBCurly

They're made by a company called Chagrin Valley. You can find them online at chagrinvalley.com.

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Products: Free and Clear sulfate free poo and condish, Theraneem Sulfate Free Shampoo/Condish, Unscented SSCEJ, Coconut oil, Camellia oil, Argan oil
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Is there a support group for Naturally Curly Product Junky Enabling?

And yes, I think I will be ordering the full sized bar on Saturday. I think that one of the flavors I wanted to sample will be ready then!

Now I have to see if the Cafe Moreno is available, I have one gray hair that comes out of my part to laugh at me. Maybe that would help?
I ordered cafe moreno (along w/ a bunch of other) for the same reason - about 5 gray hairs that aren't worth dyeing.

I'm a little confused. These shampoo bars, are they any different from a regular bar of soap? I bought this all natural soap bar and I'm thinking of trying it out. Here are the ingredients:

Olive oil, palm kernel oil, distilled water, coconut oil, safflower oil, sodium hydroxide, sweet almond oil, castor oil; essential oils of lemon and lavender; red sandalwood powder; annatto seed powder.

Can I use it on my hair? How do I use it? How much do I apply? How often do you find you need to cleanse? Sorry, I'm a bit of a newbie!
I'm a little confused. These shampoo bars, are they any different from a regular bar of soap? I bought this all natural soap bar and I'm thinking of trying it out. Here are the ingredients:

Olive oil, palm kernel oil, distilled water, coconut oil, safflower oil, sodium hydroxide, sweet almond oil, castor oil; essential oils of lemon and lavender; red sandalwood powder; annatto seed powder.

Can I use it on my hair? How do I use it? How much do I apply? How often do you find you need to cleanse? Sorry, I'm a bit of a newbie!
Originally Posted by Lollipop
I used the Chagrin Valley soaps for a while and also the soaps that KathyMack sells. Very quickly I looked up the ingredients from my favorite Chagrin Valley bar and this is what I found:

Saponified oils of olive, babassu, unrefined shea butter, and castor bean; and filtered rainwater.

I'm not a soap maker but after some research it looks like the one ingredient that made me nervous in your bar, the sodium hydroxide, is actually part of the saponification process. So I'm guessing your bar is probably fine to use as a shampoo bar.
3a, medium texture, low porosity(?)
Poo: KC Come Clean
Rinse-out Condish: Jessicurl Too Shea
Leave-in: KCKT
Styling Products: KCCC, HETT/HESMU, Joiwhip
Weekly Treatment: Jessicurl Weekly Deep Conditioner
Monthly Treatment: Henna

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