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Old 01-14-2009, 05:04 AM   #1
 
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I think I may have FINALLY found an all natural conditioner alternative that WORKS!

I have been reading on another hair site (that a lot here frequent) about using catnip infusions for conditioner. It also works to soothe the scalp from irritations (and I have dry itchy scalp a lot). So after much reading and much debating I decided to try it.

I've done it twice. The first time the infusion was WAY too strong....I used 3x the catnip I should have. LOL! The recipe is 1 level tsp of catnip in about 275 ml (just over a cup) of water, and I used a tbsp. I didn't realize until afterward though. I could tell a little difference but my ends were a little dry. I put coconut oil on them and they were fine though. I also noticed that time it was hard to detangle when wet. The second time my recipe was correct. OMG-no issues with detangling when wet, my waves were elongated and yet STILL enhanced, and my hair dried so soft!!!


The best part though....catnip also helps strengthen your hair. I've had some breakage issues recently and when I ran my hands through wet the second time I didn't get HALF the breakage as before. So it's working but I'm still reserving my final opinion after a few weeks.

I'm very excited though.....
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I had originally read about this on one of the shampoo threads back in September. Bought the catnip when I was buying cat food--and didn't make the infusion. Rymorg2 pm'ed me about her success, so I tried it this morning. Rymorg2 is a hairdresser and cautioned about it being used on the other forum to color blond. Since I'm getting highlighted later today, I wanted to try before and not after.

I did the infusion yesterday and put it on my hair this morning. Sat with it on for an hour. I rinsed it out. Did my KBB hair milk rinse out and styled. (I do style before going for haircut/highlight. I like my stylist to see what my hair is doing, so he can work with it.) It felt and looked great out of the shower. I'm still waiting for it to dry.

Here's the LHC thread, for anyone who has a lot of time. I read the first four pages in Sept, LOL!

http://forums.longhaircommunity.com/...read.php?t=476

I remember reading that catnip is acidic, people used it as a rinse after shampoo bars--but still did lemon rinse. We need to investigate this further.
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Glad you tried it KathyMack.....I'd love to see how it does with your hair long term.

That thread is HUGE....I sifted through it all....and posted towards the end about my own experiences with it.

As for acidity, catnip tea is a little acidic but most would still need a more acidic rinse after their shampoo bars. But it's worth a try.
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rymorg2 - Just wanted to pop in and say "Hi". Haven't seen you post lately and it's good to see you back.
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rymorg2 - Just wanted to pop in and say "Hi". Haven't seen you post lately and it's good to see you back.
Why thank you misspam.... I've been around but mostly reading....work was BUSY for about a month and a half and I didn't have as much time on my hands. This week? I'm on VACATION so I have plenty of time. LOL....but work has also slowed down so I should be able to work some time in occasionally again.
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This is my first post to this site, although I have been lurking here for months I just had to chime in and share my recent experience with catnip. Quite a few months ago I switched over to (mainly) all natural hair care. I have been using a bar soap, Dr. B's citrus rinse, and Dr. B's leave in and I have to say I have really love what is have done for enhancing my natural texture, but I have been having a problem with tangles(aka slip). It took a long while to get through my hair so I broke down and tried a cone conditioner.....Bye, Bye curls, hello familiar "waves". It was like an instant curl killer...So, anyway...I have been looking for a natural alternative to comercial "conditioners" . When I came across that very looong catnip thread I just had to try it. Holy Cow! I haven't been able to comb through my hair that well in months. It made a big difference with slip and did leave my hair soft, shiney, and I did not notice a big difference in my curls except I seemed to have less "crunch". I would definately recomend giving it a try, so far I am lovin it!
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chrystal, how are you doing your catnip infusion--or I should say when? Are you using it like a rinse out, leave in???? Also, how often.

I did it today, as per rymorg2. I put it in my hair, left it in an hour, rinsed it out, etc. (I wrote it earlier in thread.) My hair dried fine--pretty tight curls. I thought it was a little greasy. Got the haircut/highlight--my hair was too dry to style, so I came home and rewet it. I have to say, it was incredible soft. It's not quite dry, but it's going to be frizzy--I can tell already.
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I did this today and I really like the results. I did my co-wash, rinsed then ran the catnip tea through my hair roots to tip and let it sit for about 5 minutes. I then rinsed and scrunched in curl cream and FSG. My hair is so soft and shiny. The curls are not as tight as they normally are but I didn't use as much FSG as usual. I really like this and will add it to my routine for the next week or so to see what it does over time. The great thing was I didn't need to use a leave-in because it felt so good after the catnip.

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This is my first post to this site, although I have been lurking here for months I just had to chime in and share my recent experience with catnip. Quite a few months ago I switched over to (mainly) all natural hair care. I have been using a bar soap, Dr. B's citrus rinse, and Dr. B's leave in and I have to say I have really love what is have done for enhancing my natural texture, but I have been having a problem with tangles(aka slip). It took a long while to get through my hair so I broke down and tried a cone conditioner.....Bye, Bye curls, hello familiar "waves". It was like an instant curl killer...So, anyway...I have been looking for a natural alternative to comercial "conditioners" . When I came across that very looong catnip thread I just had to try it. Holy Cow! I haven't been able to comb through my hair that well in months. It made a big difference with slip and did leave my hair soft, shiney, and I did not notice a big difference in my curls except I seemed to have less "crunch". I would definately recomend giving it a try, so far I am lovin it!
Glad to hear you're loving it as much as I am! I'm doing my catnip treatment as we speak LOL....
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I did this today and I really like the results. I did my co-wash, rinsed then ran the catnip tea through my hair roots to tip and let it sit for about 5 minutes. I then rinsed and scrunched in curl cream and FSG. My hair is so soft and shiny. The curls are not as tight as they normally are but I didn't use as much FSG as usual. I really like this and will add it to my routine for the next week or so to see what it does over time. The great thing was I didn't need to use a leave-in because it felt so good after the catnip.

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Hi Beth! That's great! Keep in mind that most people have trouble using catnip with regular conditioners though, even natural ones. It doesn't like the residue left from them. Some have had luck using it as a CO itself though, so that's an option too....I just haven't tried it yet.
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I did this today and I really like the results. I did my co-wash, rinsed then ran the catnip tea through my hair roots to tip and let it sit for about 5 minutes. I then rinsed and scrunched in curl cream and FSG. My hair is so soft and shiny. The curls are not as tight as they normally are but I didn't use as much FSG as usual. I really like this and will add it to my routine for the next week or so to see what it does over time. The great thing was I didn't need to use a leave-in because it felt so good after the catnip.

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Hi Beth! That's great! Keep in mind that most people have trouble using catnip with regular conditioners though, even natural ones. It doesn't like the residue left from them. Some have had luck using it as a CO itself though, so that's an option too....I just haven't tried it yet.
So sorry if I'm being dense but are you saying that I might have problems with this when co-washing? I should switch back to shampoo bars? I still have a couple from kathymac but had quit them because I got tired of having to do an ACV rinse every time I washed. I have to wash everyday as I've only gotten second day hair twice.
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I did this today and I really like the results. I did my co-wash, rinsed then ran the catnip tea through my hair roots to tip and let it sit for about 5 minutes. I then rinsed and scrunched in curl cream and FSG. My hair is so soft and shiny. The curls are not as tight as they normally are but I didn't use as much FSG as usual. I really like this and will add it to my routine for the next week or so to see what it does over time. The great thing was I didn't need to use a leave-in because it felt so good after the catnip.

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Hi Beth! That's great! Keep in mind that most people have trouble using catnip with regular conditioners though, even natural ones. It doesn't like the residue left from them. Some have had luck using it as a CO itself though, so that's an option too....I just haven't tried it yet.
So sorry if I'm being dense but are you saying that I might have problems with this when co-washing? I should switch back to shampoo bars? I still have a couple from kathymac but had quit them because I got tired of having to do an ACV rinse every time I washed. I have to wash everyday as I've only gotten second day hair twice.
You may. There's residue left by conditioners that the catnip doesn't like. You could end up with crunchy ends. Shampoo bars would work, I use my DW with it with no problems, people have even used regular Poo with no issues either, as long as it doesn't have fatty alcohols in it like cetyl alcohol. Fwiw, when I do shampoo bars I don't have to vinegar rinse every time. Every other day to 2 times a week does it for me. It's a thought.

Also, I used to have to wash daily and now I don't but I wear my hair up daily now (so not looking for wave enhancement most of the time) anyway.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'll have to try the bars again with this new routine and see what that's like. Oh, these curls, it is an endless experiment isn't it? LOL
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Thanks for the quick reply. I'll have to try the bars again with this new routine and see what that's like. Oh, these curls, it is an endless experiment isn't it? LOL

Absolutely it's endless......but I do it anyway. YW btw.
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So sorry if I'm being dense but are you saying that I might have problems with this when co-washing? I should switch back to shampoo bars? I still have a couple from kathymac but had quit them because I got tired of having to do an ACV rinse every time I washed. I have to wash everyday as I've only gotten second day hair twice.
I wet my hair every day--don't get second day hair that meets my criteria. I only use a bar every third day. Do you need to wash every day? If you're using CG products, they should just rinse out.
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So sorry if I'm being dense but are you saying that I might have problems with this when co-washing? I should switch back to shampoo bars? I still have a couple from kathymac but had quit them because I got tired of having to do an ACV rinse every time I washed. I have to wash everyday as I've only gotten second day hair twice.
I wet my hair every day--don't get second day hair that meets my criteria. I only use a bar every third day. Do you need to wash every day? If you're using CG products, they should just rinse out.
All my products are CG. As far as washing everyday I suppose I don't "have" to wash everyday, it just feels better to wash. I'll try to cut it back to every other or three days and see what happens. When you wet only do you water wash or just wet?
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All my products are CG. As far as washing everyday I suppose I don't "have" to wash everyday, it just feels better to wash. I'll try to cut it back to every other or three days and see what happens. When you wet only do you water wash or just wet?
I just wet and put on rinse out. To not guano the thread, LOL, I'll add that I just made two cups of the catnip infusion. Tomorrow, I think I will wet and use the catnip infusion as my rinse out. If it works, I will keep doing it.

I get my hair cut every six weeks--or so. When I went yesterday, my stylist (and I) couldn't believe how much it had grown since my last cut (six weeks tomorrow.) We knew we weren't imagining it--the highlights had really grown out! The fact that it's growing so much during the winter has to be because of all the healthy things I'm doing. It also makes me think that I won't have a problem with the catnip infusion not like conditioner residue on my ends. While I do use rinse out and leave in products, my hair isn't very porous and it's cut frequently--unlike the ladies whose pictures I've seen on the LHC.

I'm planning to wade through the 17 pages on catnip, at some point.
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Thanks, kathymac. We posted at thesame time. I added another question to the bottom of my post #16. Maybe I should post that in a separate thread?

I think I will now. Thanks again.
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I tried the infusion today. I did not wash, but since I was just coming off of my hair detox, I had no conditioner in my hair.

I only left it in for 5 minutes or so. I'm not sure how it affected my hair after it dried. I haven't had any product in my hair for 7 days so I couldn't really tell. I'm a little "product happy" right now. It did NOT act as a detangler though.

I am brewing more right now. I think I will use it tomorrow after a wash with my DW and leave it in longer. We shall see.
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I tried the infusion today. I did not wash, but since I was just coming off of my hair detox, I had no conditioner in my hair.

I only left it in for 5 minutes or so. I'm not sure how it affected my hair after it dried. I haven't had any product in my hair for 7 days so I couldn't really tell. I'm a little "product happy" right now. It did NOT act as a detangler though.

I am brewing more right now. I think I will use it tomorrow after a wash with my DW and leave it in longer. We shall see.
When I did it yesterday, I left it in an hour! I only read the first four pages of the LHC thread and some do it with heat. Don't know if that is of interest. My hair doesn't tangle, unless I use DW (I think it's the goats milk) or a product with castor oil. I had highlights yesterday. My hair was and is incredible soft despite the chemical process--and no conditioner yesterday. I suspect that it's the catnip.
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