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brazilianbarbie 05-23-2009 11:21 PM

Best organic shampoo/conditioner?
 
I have gone through TONS of shampoos and conditioners. Heard great things about Pantene Pro V hydrating curls...but it made my hair feel extremely dry. Spent tons of money on all different shampoos/conditoners but they still gave that same dry effect. I want a shampoo/conditoner that has a nice natural smell and nice ingredients. One that has slip (like the youtube girls say lol)

Any suggestions? and preferably one that is easily accessible

thanks.

Marllon 05-24-2009 06:27 AM

You need to stop using sulfates, because that's what's inside Pantene shampoos, which are a death sentence to curls. Sulfates are harsh surfactants that you can even find in laundry detergents, they cleanse your hair, but they also strip it from any moisture, consequently drying out your hair.

I read from Kathymack's review that the Komaza Califia Care line carry a fabulous shampoo and conditioner. Jessicurl Gentle Lather Shampoo and Jessicurl Too Shea! Extra Moisturizing Conditioner also receive rave reviews.

Have you begun co-washing? It's a method of washing curly hair by scrubbing and massaging conditioner onto your scalp like you would with a shampoo. I haven't shampooed since I began co-washing when I turned CG seven weeks ago, and my hair is a lot better because of it. My hair doesn't get dirty because I stay away from ingredients such as mineral oil, petrolatum/petroleum, and water-insoluble silicones.

Jess the Mess 05-25-2009 08:39 PM

The Giovanni line of products is organic and really good. You can get it at Target or the drugstore in the natural aisle.

kathymack 05-26-2009 04:52 AM

Organic soap bars are a really gentle cleanser. Much gentler than low poo.

Kinky Rhonnie 06-02-2009 11:23 AM

I recommend Aubrey Organics Conditioners from Vitamin Shoppe, Whole Foods, or online.

For shampoo, I like Blended Beauty Soy Cream Shampoo.

dailywavy 06-10-2009 08:35 PM

I really like the one in my siggy, but i jsut found out it does have a little bit of dimethicone, but it is low on the label. hummm.... i will have to try giovanii's or shampoo bars next time.

Auntie Bubbs 06-17-2009 12:40 PM

I thought Giovanni's leave in dried out my hair (3b, already pretty dry). Anyone else experience this? I'm afraid to dry anything else of their's.
What about Burt's Bees? Any thoughts on their products?

kathymack 06-17-2009 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Auntie Bubbs (Post 999872)
I thought Giovanni's leave in dried out my hair (3b, already pretty dry). Anyone else experience this? I'm afraid to dry anything else of their's.
What about Burt's Bees? Any thoughts on their products?

The Giovanni LI has protein. As your hair is coarse, it probably doesn't like too much protein.

WurlyLox 06-17-2009 01:25 PM

NOT Burt's Bees IMO - I use Giovanni Tea Tree shampoo all the time and don't find it drying, even though it's maybe their most clarifying formula, but Burt's Bees made mine feel stripped and awful.

I also sometimes use Theraneem shampoo, and it's very gentle. It just makes my hair a little too soft to use all the time.

If I didn't need the tea tree or neem oil for my scalp, I'd probably usually use Terax Collagene most of the time - it's very gentle. Pricey, although it takes little and lasts me a long time, and I don't know of anywhere you can buy it locally. I got it from drugstore.com/beauty.com. based on recommendations/reviews on makeupalley.com. As you can tell by the name, it has protein, but I think they have other formulations that don't.

Alternatively, I might try harder to find a 'poo bar that I really like.

Off topic, Auntie Bubbs, how do you use Manipulator? On wet or dry hair? Just curious since you say it's your HG . . . .


ETA: Oops, I forgot this is supposed to be about organic shampoos - I don't think Terax is, although it has a lot of natural ingredients and is better than most commercial 'poos.

Auntie Bubbs 06-22-2009 01:25 PM

Kathy, that's probably it. I was at Lassen's Health Food store the other day and asked the girl which shampoos and condishes were protein free and she did not know :( I went with Aubrey Organics HR over Burt's Bees. Still too early to tell but I like the AOHR so far.

Nett, I love manipulator. I use it when my hair is about 80% dry. I rub a bit between my hands and scrunch it evenly, and lightly, up into my curls. It helps to set the definition.

I usually carry a jar in my purse. For some reason, I forgot it when i went to get a hair cut Sat. I have a Deva stylist I go to who is pretty good. Anyway, my hair looked gorgeous, of course ;) after she was done with it. I wanted to set the curls w/manipulator but didn't have it. My hair held all day very nicely, and I got decent 2nd day hair. I am on 3rd day right now and it's not great - too frizzy. But it's not awful. I tied it back with a ribbon and it looks ok. I never get 3rd day curls anyway!
But I found it interesting that I (well, she) got such good curl formation without the manipulator. I may experiment with that. I've used manipulator for like 10 years. :D

LadyRae 06-23-2009 02:08 PM

The best thing I've tried that I can get locally is Giovanni Smooth as Silk Condish. I love love LOOOOOOOVe it! Especially after I add some melted shea butter and water it down. But it's great by itself too! The Smooth as Silk shampoo has a silicone in it. So I don't use it... *wasted money... :angry3:* But my hair has been a lot better off since I've stopped using shampoo anyway

LadyRae 06-23-2009 02:09 PM

How can I use a soap bar in my hair???

stargazer613 07-07-2009 07:33 PM

Aubrey Organics and Trader Joe's Nourish Spa

kathymack 07-07-2009 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyRae (Post 1005642)
How can I use a soap bar in my hair???

Sorry, just saw this.

Most of us don't use just any old bar. They are handcrafted natural bars made the old fashioned cold process way--saponified oils.

confusedmaiden 07-08-2009 09:51 AM

Depends on your hair. I will give you one wavy's perspective.

I know people like Giovanni's Tea Tree shampoo/conditioner and I wanted to like it, but it strips the heck out of my hair. Oddly it does so more than my sulphate containing Back To Basics Curl Refreshing shampoo. I like that line and have been using it now since I have decided that I do need to shampoo and I do need at least occassional sulphates. I do wash with the CG method of applying conditioner to the ends every time I lather with the shampoo. Once that bottle is done, the search is on for another shampoo that might work just a bit better, but I find less frizz with that line (although still frizzy because that's just how my hair is).

I love Aubrey Organics B5 design gel for when I blow out my hair or want to have a neater look (the hold isn't very strong but it does condition/protect the hair). But their GPB shampoo left my hair feeling strawlike and their conditioner left it overconditioned.

I tried Avalon Organics with mixed success. I didn't feel it cleaned very well. Their conditioners contain cones.

I have tried Giovanni's Smooth as Silk shampoo which works pretty well but should be alternated with a stronger shampoo because it can cause a bit of buildup.

Despite the admonitions against them, I have found that I need at least occasional sulfates in order to maintain clean hair. I just try to use the gentlest sulfate containing shampoos (just one sulfate) like the Back to Basics line.

mochalatta408 07-08-2009 11:47 AM

I ditto the soap bars. Shikkai Everyday Shampoo is number one. Trader Joe's Nourish Shampoo and Conditioner are also my faves.

melaniesusan 07-16-2009 09:06 PM

My favorites are:

low poo: Avalon organics/olive grape seed; Trader Joes's nourish spa

rinse-out condish: EO rose & chamomile

leave-in condish: KBB nectar

deep condish: KBB hair mask

xcptnl 07-22-2009 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Auntie Bubbs (Post 1004565)
Kathy, that's probably it. I was at Lassen's Health Food store the other day and asked the girl which shampoos and condishes were protein free and she did not know :( I went with Aubrey Organics HR over Burt's Bees. Still too early to tell but I like the AOHR so far.

Nett, I love manipulator. I use it when my hair is about 80% dry. I rub a bit between my hands and scrunch it evenly, and lightly, up into my curls. It helps to set the definition.

I usually carry a jar in my purse. For some reason, I forgot it when i went to get a hair cut Sat. I have a Deva stylist I go to who is pretty good. Anyway, my hair looked gorgeous, of course ;) after she was done with it. I wanted to set the curls w/manipulator but didn't have it. My hair held all day very nicely, and I got decent 2nd day hair. I am on 3rd day right now and it's not great - too frizzy. But it's not awful. I tied it back with a ribbon and it looks ok. I never get 3rd day curls anyway!
But I found it interesting that I (well, she) got such good curl formation without the manipulator. I may experiment with that. I've used manipulator for like 10 years. :D

I loved bed heads manipulator when my hair was short....I should try it again.

orange 07-28-2009 11:05 AM

I'd second Aubrey conditioners - Honeysuckle Rose is very thick & hydrating. To use as a cowash, I dilute it with water; otherwise, it works well full-strength as a deep conditioner.

For shampoo, Terressentials pure earth hair wash (i like left coast lemon) leaves no squeakiness at all. i use it about once every couple of months.

Both of those are completely natural.

WurlyLox 07-28-2009 02:23 PM

I used Max Green Alchemy Scalp Rescue Shampoo for the first time yesterday and had an excellent hair day with good second day hair today.


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