Dye After henna

I've only done 2 henna applications and that was months ago.. Now I want to lighten my hair to sandy brown or honey blonde... Has anyine dyed after henna what were ur results?
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As long as you used 100% pure henna, you should be fine. If you used a boxed kit, be VERY careful as it may have had ingredients in it that are NOT henna and can react in bad ways (i.e. green hair) with commercial dyes.
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I used jamila body art quality henna. no box dye of any kind for me ever!
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so i should treat it just like normally colored hair then?
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Yup, everything I've read says you should be fine dyeing over the real stuff! The site I found the most helpful about henna stuff was hennaforhair.com
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Off-day spritz: Lavender mist
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You can pretty easily color over henna but you said you want to lighten it . . . ? Via. Con. Dios.

Granted, I lightened hendigo (with no customary blue or green hair resulting), but it took 2 rounds of ColorFix followed by 2 rounds of bleach and I got about 2 levels of lift from natural black to very, very dark auburn -- actually, the color in my avie is the lightest I got after those four processes. Needless to say, my hair was trashed. Continued processing with dye (in the red family) and 30vol developer eventually got me to a medium auburn, after about 3 months. Any lighter with red reduction would have required another massive bleaching, at least.
You can pretty easily color over henna but you said you want to lighten it . . . ? Via. Con. Dios.

Granted, I lightened hendigo (with no customary blue or green hair resulting), but it took 2 rounds of ColorFix followed by 2 rounds of bleach and I got about 2 levels of lift from natural black to very, very dark auburn -- actually, the color in my avie is the lightest I got after those four processes. Needless to say, my hair was trashed. Continued processing with dye (in the red family) and 30vol developer eventually got me to a medium auburn, after about 3 months. Any lighter with red reduction would have required another massive bleaching, at least.
Originally Posted by CurlyToast
Is blue/green hair customary??? My last hendigo was six months ago but I've been doing regular hennas monthly since. Was thinking of getting highlights but hadn't heard of the possibility of ending up with green or blue hair. Is this only an issue with going very light after hendigo? I have about three inches of hennaed roots but the rest of my hair is black from the hendigo. My natural color is dark brown.
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It's quite common, as I understand it, but I believe it depends on the amount of indigo in the hair -- mine was a mix for dark brown, and it didn't happen (which surprised me because it was *really* dark brown -- a natural black, really), but a two-part process for black hair, I would definitely advise a strand test. Apparently when it happens it's pretty difficult to cover up without going right back to the level you were trying to bleach out.
i'll definately be doing a strand test before trying my whole head... my hair is preety delicate i dont think it would survive that much bleaching it barely survived the relaxer! eep.. but ur hair seems to be still looking healthy.. keep doing what ur doing and thanks for the advice
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I've dyed and bleached over henna. I had one henna/cassia application and one henna application on my hair.

Did you use just henna, or henna and indigo? You can't bleach over indigo, it will turn green. But you can bleach hennaed hair...however, it will come out a lot more brassy than non-hennaed hair.

My natural color is a medium golden blond. With henna I was flaming red. My natural color lifts to platinum blond easily, but with henna in my hair it sort of stayed at the brassy yellow stage. I used an ash-blond toner and a drabbing additive to cancel the orange so it came out OK, sort of a dark golden blond, but I wasn't able to go as light blond as I used to.

Definitely strand test first!!!!! Some people find that they can't bleach it light enough to get past the orange w/out their hair dissolving.
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I bleached my hair today it came out orange! My roots wouldve been blonde but my friend didnt want to do them because it wouldve been blonde with orange on top. I put a semi permanent over it to make it a light brown and will continue to do so for about a month.. I'll do more research and try to see if i can cancel out the orange. i read somewhere fruit based lightener was good
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i wish i had pictures the camera would do the color justice... it was blonde and orange like the toolbar!
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You can try a drabber (Sally's), or just try using a toner with strong ash tones. But the Henna is strong, and it can be extremely difficult to completely mitigate the orange.
It's a very strong ash toner intended to reduce red tones. Ardell Unred is a pretty popular one available at Sally's, though I think most haircolor systems also offer a drabber option.

You can either mix it into your color (which: too late, but for future reference), or some -- like the Unred -- you can appy directly to hair, or mixed with conditioner (probably won't be enough).
thanks for the advice i might have to try that followed immediately by a protein treatment
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Yeah, my hair also went to a rather frightening blond/orange color when I bleached over henna. I've been toning it with a dark ash blond demipermanent color and it comes out dark golden blond (the ash cancels the orange somewhat but it gets more golden/red as the demi color fades).

I tried toning it to a lighter ash blond shade but it still looked pretty brassy. So I guess I'm a dark blond until the henna grows out. It's OK, it's pretty close to my natural color anyhow.

I've found that darker ash shades cover the orange better and last longer; also like the other person suggested you can add a color additive like UnRed.

If you have beauty supply store that sells professional color, sometimes they have a color called "Matte" which is violet based. You can mix that with a neutral or ash color to help cancel the red also. Basically you want the ashiest dyes you can find to counteract that glowing orange.

Good luck! I wish I'd never messed with henna, it is more permanent than bad credit.
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lol that bad credit joke was hilarious and also true!! i read it was permanent but i guess i thought permanent like regular hair color where it can be changed lol
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Last edited by SilverAngel45; 06-15-2010 at 12:30 AM.
Sorry for bumping such an old thread, but I am suffering from a similar problem: wanting to go blonde after old henna

So, years ago I did a BAQ henna and got tired of the dark oxidized ruddy red it became so I mixed up some ION protein-pak and a package of Ardell Un-Red (nice and black), applied it to my hair, covered it up with a developing cap and left it for about 2 hours. After washout, the red was noticeably less, and my hair was much more ashy (but not darker).

So, stupid me, I put a two step henna-indigo treatment for a black look. BAH!, the raven black faded fast to a more, brown/grey..... meh. I lived with it for about a year, unhappily. Recently I'd bleached my hair and YES! the indigoed parts went ..GREEN! like... moss green! hahahahha! uncool, but whatever, i chopped off most of the green, and the rest is there until my hair grows out long enough for me to chop off the rest of the green.

So! I am going to go to Sally's, pick up some Unred and some Red-Gold Corrector, mix with condish pack and see if the orange remnants after bleach are minimized. If so, I may attempt another bleaching.

P.S. castor oil really helps scalp condition after treatments. Just saying.

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