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Old 04-13-2011, 06:34 PM   #21
 
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I've been told by stylists that for lifting color several levels lighter than a volume 20 is needed for the roots. But once hair has been lightened and is just being recolored, essentially you are lightening up already faded hair to deposit a darker color rather than just adding the color. One stylist told me that once hair has been colored for a long time it gets so porous that just a demi will work just as well (except on the roots) with a 10 volume or even less. I'm going to ask my stylist when I get a trim next week.
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Old 04-13-2011, 06:42 PM   #22
 
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Please let us know what you learn, slivola. I've been wondering asbout this myself lately, after a big mess with hot roots and ugh last month.

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Old 04-13-2011, 07:48 PM   #23
 
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I've been told by stylists that for lifting color several levels lighter than a volume 20 is needed for the roots. But once hair has been lightened and is just being recolored, essentially you are lightening up already faded hair to deposit a darker color rather than just adding the color. One stylist told me that once hair has been colored for a long time it gets so porous that just a demi will work just as well (except on the roots) with a 10 volume or even less. I'm going to ask my stylist when I get a trim next week.


Great information...please let us know what your stylist has to say.
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Old 04-14-2011, 05:40 AM   #24
 
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Karen: I'm going to purchase the ash blonde and mix with med ash brown and see what happens. Also, I did some checking online, there are two stores that still have the light ash brown. I'm going to check this weekend and purchase all they have probably. I've check at numerous stores and they have already pulled the LAB but two stores show it in stock. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I really like HS so don't want to change brands unless I absolutely have to. I'm 6 weeks into my last dye job and my hair is still looking great color-wise. This is the longest my color has lasted with HS. And, I've been using a sulfate poo. Imagine that!
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Old 04-14-2011, 05:10 PM   #25
 
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Karen- I talked with a different stylist today who said I could even go less than 10 volume for a demi. She said sometimes they sell 4% volume for demis which would be even less damaging. She said the difference with demis is that I should leave them on the whole time (rather than the last 10 minutes after coloring my roots with my 20 volume.) She also suggested I consider switching from 20 volume to 10 volume with permanent color for my roots since I don't have much grey.
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Karen- I talked with a different stylist today who said I could even go less than 10 volume for a demi. She said sometimes they sell 4% volume for demis which would be even less damaging. She said the difference with demis is that I should leave them on the whole time (rather than the last 10 minutes after coloring my roots with my 20 volume.) She also suggested I consider switching from 20 volume to 10 volume with permanent color for my roots since I don't have much grey.


Thanks so much for sharing this info. Do you think you'll try a demi color or stick with the Clairol prof?
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Old 04-14-2011, 06:26 PM   #27
 
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Also..is HerbaShine a demi or semi permanent? What about Natural Instincts?
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Old 04-14-2011, 10:47 PM   #28
 
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Karen- yes, I'm going to try out the demi and then either the 10 or 20 volume of developer for the permanent color. I'm going to try wella's 55/44 permanent on my roots and the corresponding demi/semi for the rest of my hair (not sure what the demi verses semi difference is but the stylist I talked to said either are fine and less damaging). The clairol professional line is okay but not as vibrant as what I want. If not for the aveda madder red deposit conditioner I use, my color is copper that fades quickly.
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