No, color does NOT lift color! (rant)

Long rant! FYI for anyone who colors.

So my cousin's hair came out too dark when she colored it a month or so ago (I did not assist). She used a medium brown and got dark brown/almost black hair. She didn't speak to me first or I would have advised to go lighter. Anyway, I used ColorFix to lift the color and re-dyed it. We chose a light brown --recommended by the "color specialist" at Sally's -- and it still grabbed too dark on the length. Sally's lady said to use 10 vol on the length and 20 on the roots (outgrowth with gray). So we used CF again the following week to just lift midshaft down to even it up. All was good but a little darker than she wants.

Jump to yesterday, we go back to Sally's to get new color to touch up her roots. Same specialist assists us and insists that we choose (only) one shade lighter and use 30 vol so it will lift some color on the length and cover the roots. I remind her color does not lift color and she insists that it will because of the higher volume of peroxide. Whatever!

So today we color. Against my better judgement, we do as specialist says: mix with 30 vol, apply to darker length first for 30 min, then roots only for last 15-20 min. Rinse, etc.

Her hair is still dark, maybe darker on the length!!! It DID NOT lift any color at all! Her crown and roots are still lighter. DUH! Cousin is okay with it but I know she wants to be lighter. I hope some wears off, as I hate to do CF a third time.

Moral of the story: color does not lift color, stupid lady at Sally's don't know what she is talking about, and now I'm feeling bad because cousin's hair is not lighter.

PS - I'm taking cousin back to Sally's soon to show stupid specialist that she was WRONG!!!

So, when you get the crazy idea that using a lighter color will lift your old color, think again and reread this post! You have been forewarned.


SF Bay Area, CA * "The Angel-Goddess-Guru of Haircoloring"
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i always wondered what that meant (colour won't lift colour), but now i do (you can't dye light over dark - right?), so thanks! i was a box red for years, i got fed up so as i couldn't dye over it with a brown as the red would always pop back up, i thought why not just go with black - worst idea. EVER. it is thee worst colour to grow out. took my years & ended up having my hair, which was all the way down my back, cut to just below my shoulders coz i couldn't stand the roots. this was some time ago & now i am back to my old boring natural colour (mousey brown-yuck), the insane thing is since red is really in right now i am trying to find the will power to not go red again. ughhh. i feel your cousins pain, tho. if she really hates it then she could have it pulled by a professional. john frieda salons have the best process, forgot what it is called, but they don't use as much bleach to strip the colour.


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]i always wondered what that meant (colour won't lift colour), but now i do (you can't dye light over dark - right?), so thanks! [/B]i was a box red for years, i got fed up so as i couldn't dye over it with a brown as the red would always pop back up, i thought why not just go with black - worst idea. EVER. it is thee worst colour to grow out. took my years & ended up having my hair, which was all the way down my back, cut to just below my shoulders coz i couldn't stand the roots. this was some time ago & now i am back to my old boring natural colour (mousey brown-yuck), the insane thing is since red is really in right now i am trying to find the will power to not go red again. ughhh. i feel your cousins pain, tho. if she really hates it then she could have it pulled by a professional. john frieda salons have the best process, forgot what it is called, but they don't use as much bleach to strip the colour.
Originally Posted by Jaqi;1642023[B
We can use ColorFix again if needed, it's the same as the salon stuff, we can buy it at Sally's here. Salons want $100-200 or so to fix it.

SF Bay Area, CA * "The Angel-Goddess-Guru of Haircoloring"
3b/c/a mix. medium texture, low porosity
* pw: just4curlies
* My Motto: Strand Test!
some hair pics
-- gone, but never forgotten.
Oh I soooo feel your pain!
Those people at Sally's are nothing more than salespeople. I asked them for some color advice once and was told to put dish liquid in my hair!

I never ever go against my better judgement with anyone regarding my hair - I always end up learning a hard shoula-coulda-woulda lesson!
The reason why the ends are grabbing the color and making it almost black is because that hair is older and has a lot more abuse to it etc etc so it will soak up the color. The ends should have been done last. Also as far as the Tide liquid in the hair.... That shouldn't be kept on too long and all it will do is pull out some of the color. You just have to make sure to do a DT afterwards because it's drying.

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