Please help me make a dye purchase at Sally's

Your color looks great! It is very natural. Beautiful.

Thanks for the feedback on the kit. I want to try the one called Toasted Coconut. I will have to wait. I recently tried salon highlights for the first time. The colorist left me with yellow and orange stripes! I had to go back within the week for her to fix it without charging me more $$$. Oh, so many chemicals. Blech. I'll need to give my hair a break after that.

You can buy highlighting tools at a beauty supply store. The quality is better than the things that come with a kit. You can pick up highlight brushes, a plastic bowl, foil, a comb with a thin metal tip on the end to section hair, nicer gloves... all sorts of fun things. I remember doing my friends hair in high school. We ended up using a tootbrush to apply highlights!

Back to your original question about hair color secret codes. Isn't it odd that they make it hard to understand? They use numbers to represent levels. You can google hair levels and pick where your natural level falls. 1 is black. 10 is palest blonde. A few brands go up to 12. Say you are a level 6 and want to maintain that level, just cover gray. You'll likely pick a 6. However, if you look up reviews, you'll see that many brands come out darker... so, reviewers suggest to go up a level lighter.

Then, comes the tricky thing... the labeling or coding varies by brand. Some have other numbers. Some have letters. Some have a combo. It is best to google the specific brand to find out what it means. If you can't find the answer, call the brand's 800 number. For some brands, A means ash. For other brands, they'll use .1 for ash. Yours was 6.1, meaning level 6 with ash tones.
Hair: tight waves to loose curls. Thick. Coarse. Dry. Natural redhead until bright white strands popped out. Color with FramColor now. Shampoo: alternate Phytojoba with Cowash: Suave coconut, Paul Brown or those that didn't work well as a conditioner. Conditioner: can't find one heavy enough. Product: Aveda Brilliant Humectant Pomade. DT: Coconut Oil
Thanks Ringlets...I appreciate it. I am not thrilled with the highlights...some are too chunky for me, but at least they aren't drastic. I can live with it until my hair recovers and I'll do it again.

Thanks also for the help on the numbering system. Do you have insight on the numbering system for the stuff you mix the color with? At Sally's you can buy 10, 20, 30 etc. They tell me it gives more "lift" the higher the number. What does that mean? I am taking it that since I have done a permanent color than even if I do a removal kit (like the one from RC), that my natural color is gone or messed up? Is that correct? If so, I guess I have stuck for the next 10 years or so, because my hair grows so slow. SIGH...I always leap before I look. Years ago I did the "sun in" fiasco and ended up with orange hair. Will I never learn? I doubt it.
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RO TN Moisturizing .
Styling products:AVG, Ecostyler Crystal
Styling Methods: Pixie-style diffusing - total fav
Low-poo: AO Nourishing Lavender

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Just as an update....the color has totally faded already. I am now very coppery/orangish. YUCK!

I think I am going to look into Robert Craig.
2a (nc.com), 2a/2bFii (fia), normal porosity

Cowash:TN Radiant Volume
RO TN Moisturizing .
Styling products:AVG, Ecostyler Crystal
Styling Methods: Pixie-style diffusing - total fav
Low-poo: AO Nourishing Lavender

http://designdedication.com

saved by grace, walking by faith
Just as an update....the color has totally faded already. I am now very coppery/orangish. YUCK!

I think I am going to look into Robert Craig.
Originally Posted by techmom
Techmom: I thought your color looked great in your photos. Was this permanent color with highlights? If was it was permanent, I'm surprised it faded so quickly. I know what you mean about the coppery tint. That's why I'm so leary about coloring my hair with a color that isn't ash. I decided I wasn't ready for RC color yet (mainly due to the fact it is permanent color) so I purchase Garnier HerbaShine in med ash brown. When it's time, I'm just applying it to my roots and then pulling through to the ends the last 5 minutes or so since my hair really takes dye. It's a never ending battle. I'm sorry your color didn't last. It looked interesting on the box.

From what I understand about permanent color is it passes through the cortex of the hair and permanently dyes your hair. I'm not sure if that fades out to your natural color over time. That's another reason I'm afraid to use permanent color. I don't want to be a slave to my hair color. At least with semi permanent, it only deposits color on the hair shaft which eventually rinses out over a few weeks.

I just went online to Loreal. The base color is permanent.
3B Fine (lots of it), Normal to High Porosity
Low Poo: Elucence Moisture Poo, Renpure Organics
Co-Wash: Tresseme Naturals, Giovanni TT
Rinse Out: Biologe Cond Balm, SS Deeply Decadent Moisturizing Treatment
Leave-In: Oyin Hair Dew, CJ Beautiful Curls,
Stylers: SS Curl Enhancing Jelly, SS Firm Holding Styling Gel, Jessicurl RR and CC, BRHG, Biolage Gelee
Extras: ACV rinses every couple of months

Last edited by SheBros; 06-22-2011 at 06:08 PM.
I do want a dark brown shade for my hair. I would not mind a little red if that happened.

Shebros: I have not tried Garnier HerbaShine? How did you ever figure out to mix two colors? I would be so scared that I would mess it up! Was it just trial and error? I have only been coloring my hair on my own for a little bit. I guess if I use one and its too dark would I switch and mix in the lower shade? I looked at the colors online and it is a little hard to tell. I think I will check it out though. I am glad to know your hair felt healthy on it. My hair always seem to go weird after I color.

If anyone else has a great semi-permanent color idea I would love to hear it!
Originally Posted by udoknowjac
Udo: It was just like you said, trial and error. My first attemp was just med ash brown (way too dark). My second try was med nat brown (too much of a reddish cast). My third try was med ash brown and light nat brown (again, too much of a reddish cast). My fourth try was med ash brown (3/4) and light ash brown (1/4). Perfect match then they discontinued light ash brown. I always choose 2 and 3 shades lighter than my natural color and mix the two shades. The HS golden shades are suppose to cast a light golden shimmer to hair. The natural shades will cast a reddish tint. Not sure if that helps you or not.

And, hopefully my fellow curlies will chime in here.
Originally Posted by SheBros


Hi: I've been mixing 2 colors also and have the hardest time getting 3/4 from one tube and 1/4 from another. How do you do it? This time I got too much of the darker color and now my hair is too dark. Is there a way of measuring how much you're taking out of the tube? Help, pls lol.
3b, fine textured,thin and normal to high porosity.
[QUOTE=KarenRB53;Hi: I've been mixing 2 colors also and have the hardest time getting 3/4 from one tube and 1/4 from another. How do you do it? This time I got too much of the darker color and now my hair is too dark. Is there a way of measuring how much you're taking out of the tube? Help, pls lol.[/QUOTE]

Karen: I purchased a clear plastic bottle from Sally Beauty that is used to measure hair dye. It has lines marked on it so you can easily mix different ratios. Hope this helps.
3B Fine (lots of it), Normal to High Porosity
Low Poo: Elucence Moisture Poo, Renpure Organics
Co-Wash: Tresseme Naturals, Giovanni TT
Rinse Out: Biologe Cond Balm, SS Deeply Decadent Moisturizing Treatment
Leave-In: Oyin Hair Dew, CJ Beautiful Curls,
Stylers: SS Curl Enhancing Jelly, SS Firm Holding Styling Gel, Jessicurl RR and CC, BRHG, Biolage Gelee
Extras: ACV rinses every couple of months
Thankfully, I have very dark brown hair and there is no need to mix colors. If I did that, I'd probably wind up with green hair. You all are mentioning "ash"; ash is notorious for adding in red. I learned this the hard way, I purchased light ash brown on year and come out with Strawberry Blonde Hair (with nice dark brown eyebrows) yeah, that was attractive.

I'm planning on coloring my few grays that have appeared on my hairline, which like most of you is only visible when I pull my hair back (which is something I do daily). I do have 1 box of Herbashine in stock and a bunch of other ones of permanent color, which I may try to take back to exchange for a non permanent color.

I also thought about going to Sally, but I'm confused as what to buy. How do I choose the white stuff (sorry, I don't know what the technical term is)?

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Thankfully, I have very dark brown hair and there is no need to mix colors. If I did that, I'd probably wind up with green hair. You all are mentioning "ash"; ash is notorious for adding in red. I learned this the hard way, I purchased light ash brown on year and come out with Strawberry Blonde Hair (with nice dark brown eyebrows) yeah, that was attractive.

I'm planning on coloring my few grays that have appeared on my hairline, which like most of you is only visible when I pull my hair back (which is something I do daily). I do have 1 box of Herbashine in stock and a bunch of other ones of permanent color, which I may try to take back to exchange for a non permanent color.

I also thought about going to Sally, but I'm confused as what to buy. How do I choose the white stuff (sorry, I don't know what the technical term is)?
Originally Posted by Mophead
Mophead: I think you may have the ash tone wrong. Ash tone doesn't pull red. It combats red. Ash is a cool tone (green, blue, purple). See example below. HTH.

The cool (ash) colors are blue, green, and purple. When the hair color names refer to "dark ash blonde" and so forth, it means they have a green, blue, or purple undertones. You should be careful with these colors. If you put a green or blue undertone color on a warm color (especially a gold/yellow color) hair...most shades of blonde except for strawberry blonde that has red in it, you will come out with green tones in your hair. If you have brown hair with red highlights and you can't stand the red, then you would use the opposite color on the wheel to neutralize the red. In this case, the neutralizing color would be green (ash). Ash is generally used to remove red tones from hair color.
3B Fine (lots of it), Normal to High Porosity
Low Poo: Elucence Moisture Poo, Renpure Organics
Co-Wash: Tresseme Naturals, Giovanni TT
Rinse Out: Biologe Cond Balm, SS Deeply Decadent Moisturizing Treatment
Leave-In: Oyin Hair Dew, CJ Beautiful Curls,
Stylers: SS Curl Enhancing Jelly, SS Firm Holding Styling Gel, Jessicurl RR and CC, BRHG, Biolage Gelee
Extras: ACV rinses every couple of months
I was at Sally's this weekend and purchased two shades in the Professional Clairol Beautiful Collection Semi-Permanent Hair Color (med ash brown and light ash brown). I'm planning to mix these two shades (1/4 light to 3/4 med) in the next couple of weeks. Reviews seem very positive on Sally's and so-so on makeupalley. Most complain it doesn't last long. I'm going to give it a try. It's been almost 6 months since I last colored my hair. I'm anxious to see how this turns out. I'll do a review after I try it. Oh, it does have ammonia or perioxide in it.
3B Fine (lots of it), Normal to High Porosity
Low Poo: Elucence Moisture Poo, Renpure Organics
Co-Wash: Tresseme Naturals, Giovanni TT
Rinse Out: Biologe Cond Balm, SS Deeply Decadent Moisturizing Treatment
Leave-In: Oyin Hair Dew, CJ Beautiful Curls,
Stylers: SS Curl Enhancing Jelly, SS Firm Holding Styling Gel, Jessicurl RR and CC, BRHG, Biolage Gelee
Extras: ACV rinses every couple of months

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