Henna & curl relaxation question

I have been doing a bit of research on body art quality henna, including doing a search of this forum and scanning the HennaForHair.com forum. On that forum, I note there were several questions/comments about henna loosening the curl pattern. I am curious how many of you curlies have used henna, for how long, and have you noticed your curls loosening?

thanks!

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3A hair; coloring with henna/indigo since July 2009; normally follow the CG method. Still searching for my HG products!

I did some more reading on the henna for hair forum. It seems that curl relaxation and use of henna is pretty common. Some folks seem to like it because they want to relax their curl and reduce frizz.

I'm just starting to like my curls and don't want to do anytthing that might jeopardize pulling the curl out. I guess I won't try the henna.

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3A hair; coloring with henna/indigo since July 2009; normally follow the CG method. Still searching for my HG products!

I'm new to CG but been using henna to color my hair for over 5 years and it never affects my curl pattern.
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I'm new to CG but been using henna to color my hair for over 5 years and it never affects my curl pattern.
Originally Posted by curly_in_cali
thanks for responding. The color of your hair is beautiful.

I'm stil too chicken to try henna, though, after reading the hennaforhair BB.

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my Fotki hair journey/experiment diary PW is brio (and I really need to update it!)

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I just ordered some pure henna for hair!! (from the Mehndi site - hennaforhair.com... ) I can be your guinea pig!
-Nataly
I just ordered some pure henna for hair!! (from the Mehndi site - hennaforhair.com... ) I can be your guinea pig!
Originally Posted by jazzedbutterfly
yay!

If you want red, it sure does seem to create a beautiful shade. It also seems to have wonderful conditioning properties, too, which I think accounts for the curl relaxation in some folks.

I ordered some samples, but haven't attempted to play with it yet.

Let me know how it goes.

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3A hair; coloring with henna/indigo since July 2009; normally follow the CG method. Still searching for my HG products!

I think it depends on how curly your hair is in the first place.

I have a mix of 2a-b and a few stray 3a strands. With my first henna-ing, my hair actually seemed curlier. However, in the next month I henna'd twice before going away to college and almost all of my curl was gone and only weak waves remained.

Henna is kind of strong smelling and I have a roommate with a sensitive nose for anything not typically scented so I did not repeat the henna until winter break, but this time I used amla. All of my curl came back, but apparently you need to redo amla every few weeks to keep the curl so my curl has kind of redisappeared- also probably in conjunction with using a Lush solid shampoo with a bit of henna in it to maintain the color. I'm ordering some more amla next week to mix into a deep conditioner and we'll see how that goes!
My theory is henna's effects on individual curl pattern may have something to do with the initial thickness and wiriness of one's hair, not the curliness. The protein in henna adds weight to hair. If your hair is fine/thin/silky, this could cause the curl to relax or fall out completely.

I have wirey, medium-thick hair. It takes *a lot* to pull the curl out of it. I hennaed for a couple years and didn't notice any relaxation at all. If anything, it enhanced my curl pattern because the cuticle was smoother and so the curls could form more readily. Also, the added weight to the hair shaft was a good thing, as it prevented frizziness and flyaways.
I am henna'ing at the moment-'bout ready to wash this mess out. I've henne'd before with inferior henna, but have better quality this time (ordered Indian Henna from Henna Sooq). My hair is a mix of 3b/c. I'll report any curl changes for ya.

Edit to add: Just rinsed it out with Suave Condish applied my usual Tea Tree/Carrot Oil diffused and applied Lock & Twist Gel after is was dried. My naturally almost black hair has a pretty reddish glow and the curls are about the same. I am hoping over time the curls at the nape of my neck relax a bit with repeated use.
3b&c mix, CO (most of the time)
I think my hair is on the fine side. Even leaving too much conditioner in my hair and then putting in gel has a tendency to make my hair droop.

I am thinking henna may overcondition my hair and weigh it down.

I'd love to see before & after pictures if any one has some to share.

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my Fotki hair journey/experiment diary PW is brio (and I really need to update it!)

3A hair; coloring with henna/indigo since July 2009; normally follow the CG method. Still searching for my HG products!

I have before and afters on my fotki. I'll reactivate it now. pw= wild~hair

I think you might be right to avoid henna, however, if your hair is fine.
WoW! the color is great!

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my Fotki hair journey/experiment diary PW is brio (and I really need to update it!)

3A hair; coloring with henna/indigo since July 2009; normally follow the CG method. Still searching for my HG products!

Thanks! I was mostly impressed with the condition of my hair when using henna.

I wish there were more variation with color with henna. Because of my natural coloring [very fair, blue eyed, dark blond] I don't look good at all with very dark hair color. I do have a lot of redheads in my family, so red hair works for me. And while red was fun for a while, if I wanted to change it up, I could only go darker [by mixing it with indigo, for example].

Nothing has ever conditioned my hair as well as henna. Protein treatmens [like K-Pak] come close, but henna was king. I'm still in awe of how thick, lustrous and resilient my hair was during that time. And when your hair is inherently that conditioned, it makes caring for it so easy, and so easy for it to look good most of the time. *sigh*

They say cassia obovata [a k a "neutral henna"] will condition as henna does, but without adding color. I'm sorry, I've tried it at length [3 applications over 4-5 months, similar to how I used henna] and it didn't have anywhere near the same effect. It hardly had any effect at all. K-Pak is much better as a substitute.

You're making me want to start hennaing again! Which isn't actually a bad thing!
I used body art quality henna on my hair every 6 - 8 weeks for about a 2 years, and it did loosen my curl considerably. I have some before photos, but nothing to show after, unfortunately.

I have very fine hair, and it didn't weigh it down so much as just cause the curl to turn wavy. This is the reason I stopped using henna, in the end - the loss of curl. Without curl, my hair has no body at all, and that's when I began realizing what a gift natural curls are.

One thing I must add, however, is that henna made my hair feel better than it ever has. It was finally like having what I consider 'real hair' as far as hair shafts feeling like the rest of the world's normal-texture hair felt. My hair soaks up everything, and it soaked up the henna wonderfully. I began experimenting with things like wine, cinnamon, paprika and cloves to affect the final color (the cloves smelled wonderful!), and even though it's a bit more of a pain to apply, I would be using it to this day if it didn't kill my curl. The curl pattern stayed the same pretty much for the first year, by the way. There's tons of info at www.hennaforhair.com, and that's where I bought my henna. Tight curlies would love it.
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3a/3b hair, baby fine texture, just past shoulders
Currently returning to a CO routine
My hair is a pretty dark brown. Is the henna even going to show up? I don't want it to be super red because I don't think it would look good on me; I'm just looking for a sort of auburn tint. Of course, at first I have to convince my mother to let me dye it.
3a/3b mix of ringlets and spiral curls
BWC Rosemary Mint Tea Tree Conditioner,
Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose Conditioner,
***Aloe Vera Gel***
Simplicity is best, at least for my hair. I co-wash every two days or so with the BWC and use the AOHR as a rinse-out when I need moisture. On other days, I just water wash, and I use AV gel every day to style. I air-dry and don't brush or comb my hair.

Henna will not lighten existing color, so depending on your natural color base, it will give it a reddish cast. It is never really the same on any two people either, and the shade of red can be modified a bit with additives like cranberry juice, wine, tea, paprika, etc. when mixing it up.

Body art quality henna is the best choice - not the stuff you most likely will find on Sally shelves. I have used Hennaluscent before, and there were not chemicals in it (I emailed the company for verification as well). The results are even less dependable if you use poor quality henna that contains chemicals (and it negates the hair health benefits of natural henna).

If you visit that Hennaforhair.com site, there are many photo examples of henna on different shades of hair. I have never seen henna turn hair bright red - like hot red or candy red. I had highlighted hair when I first used henna and it gave my highlights a reddish-orangey cast that I liked, but some people thought it was too brassy. Repeated applications darken the hair shaft because henna penetrates it.

If you do go with henna, keep in mind getting it off your hair if you ever change your mind is more difficult.
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3a/3b hair, baby fine texture, just past shoulders
Currently returning to a CO routine
Thanks a bunch! I have been looking at that website, but it's hard to tell if someone's description of their hair color matches mine. Do you know specifically which additives affect the dye in what way? I've heard paprika makes it redder, but how much do you need? I'll definitely make sure to test the color on sample hair before I do my whole head.
3a/3b mix of ringlets and spiral curls
BWC Rosemary Mint Tea Tree Conditioner,
Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose Conditioner,
***Aloe Vera Gel***
Simplicity is best, at least for my hair. I co-wash every two days or so with the BWC and use the AOHR as a rinse-out when I need moisture. On other days, I just water wash, and I use AV gel every day to style. I air-dry and don't brush or comb my hair.

Keep digging around that hennaforhair site - there are some recipe mixes that show just what different additives will do for a mix. Paprika makes a more raspberry-red color, in my experience, cloves make a more brownish cast. You have to add quite a bit of anything to affect the henna color, but cloves make a WONDERFUL scent because my hair will smell like cloves for a week afterward. I wish I could find a conditioner that smelled like that...it was great right around Christmastime. People would comment how good I smelled when I wore no cologne.
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3a/3b hair, baby fine texture, just past shoulders
Currently returning to a CO routine

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