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Old 05-15-2012, 11:52 PM   #1
 
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I have a question. A couple of weeks ago I dyed my hair deepbrown with some red, but It was a foam and only is about to stay for 20 washes in my hair. I noticed that the color is almost faded away, so It didn't stay even shorter then after 20 times of washing my wavy (2b) hair. Since I really like to give my hair some more color, I was looking for a product to color my hair and is not too damaging for my hair and is hopefully staying some longer time in my hair(the foam really dried my hair out and I lost many of my waves pattern, it's finally coming back now). I've read some enthousiastic stories about the henna from Lush. I would like to get my hair color a bit in a auburn color, I would like to get the same color as Rose from titanic movie, lol .

So I did some research and find this from lush, it's the Caca Marron henna.
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Does someone has experience with this color, or should I mix it with another henna to get the color I want. I was also wondering, is henna drying for your hair, does it interrupt your wave/curl pattern? I've never used Henna, and I would like to try this in a couple of weeks, but first I wanna do some good research, I wouldn't like to end up with orange hair or green hair
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A few things regarding henna-
Before i started, i had to do some research. apparently you should not use ANY form of henna 4 months before you have used any chemical dye. also, the only way to dye your hair chemically after henna will be if you cut off all the henna.
Also, i have heard some bad things about henna from lush. My friends who have straight hair have had no issue with it, however all my curlies say it had weighed down their hair due to heavy oils. my suggestion is that you go to hennahut.com and choose a color of your choice.

Finally, i would suggest a test strand, once you choose a color its VERY hard to go back. real henna will not lighten hair, because its basically plant product.
please feel free to ask anymore questions. :]
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:24 PM   #3
 
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Just as a pro-tip, NEVER forget if you Henna your hair, and be VERY careful if you ever dye it again, even if you think you've cut it all out. I used Lush Henna on my hair last SEPTEMBER(11') and on the 9th of this month I dyed my hair -- completely forgetting, because the colour was completely gone, that I had Henna'd my hair more than 6 months ago.

THIS is what happened to my hair, LOL. Of course, we still dyed over it fine -- but the dye overtop of the henna didn't last very long(red, normal) so now my hair is purple.

Be careful!
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The girl at my LUSH has a red faux hawk that she bleaches and hennas over it. She isnt green.

I dont know if it's specifically a certain chemical process that does this or what.

Im pro LUSH, so I'd use it.

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Old 05-23-2012, 07:45 PM   #5
 
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The girl at my LUSH has a red faux hawk that she bleaches and hennas over it. She isnt green.

I dont know if it's specifically a certain chemical process that does this or what.

Im pro LUSH, so I'd use it.

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My blue/green came from having henna'd, THEN bleaching. But I think if you bleach THEN henna its ok? I could be wrong.
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Hi curlyjocelyn I used Lush Caca Marron about once a month. My hair is dark, so the color change isn't dramatic, but I like that it makes my hair feels smoother and gives it a lovely shine. After a henna treatment it almost feels like I've just gotten a haircut! Since henna behaves similarly to a protein treatment with the dye molecule bonding to the gaps in the hair's cuticle, your curls might spring up and shorten (or smooth out and lengthen a bit according to your pattern, I imagine). Although the cocoa butter in the Lush product makes for easy application, I remove my henna without shampoo (just conditioner) to give it extra time to bond to the hair and the butter weighs my hair down quite a bit. I do wash it out at the next shower and then we're back to the typically unweighted feeling. I'd recommend a moisturizing DT such as AOHR after you've washed out the cocoa butter, because it really does make a difference to soften the hair after henna.

Let me know if you have any other questions!


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Just as a pro-tip, NEVER forget if you Henna your hair, and be VERY careful if you ever dye it again, even if you think you've cut it all out. I used Lush Henna on my hair last SEPTEMBER(11') and on the 9th of this month I dyed my hair -- completely forgetting, because the colour was completely gone, that I had Henna'd my hair more than 6 months ago.

THIS is what happened to my hair, LOL. Of course, we still dyed over it fine -- but the dye overtop of the henna didn't last very long(red, normal) so now my hair is purple.

Be careful!
Hi Moonface Do you remember what brand of Henna you used on your hair? I think (but may be incorrect) that the blue/green comes from the presence of metallic salts in the dye which are added to some "Henna" hair dyes, but aren't characteristic of quality Henna hair dye.
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Old 05-25-2012, 08:56 AM   #7
 
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Real henna only comes in ONE colour.. Copper Red.

Pure henna only has one ingredient.. ground up henna leaves from the henna plant.

If you are buying a 'henna' product that is anything but red, you know for sure you are not getting pure henna.

I do have a vague understanding that the Lush products have other natural ingredients, like Indigo, (blue) which will give a brown result.

I know that there are companies that market 'henna' in different colours that use metallic salt dyes that react horribly with other hair dyes. I have never heard that pure henna causes these problems.
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Just as a pro-tip, NEVER forget if you Henna your hair, and be VERY careful if you ever dye it again, even if you think you've cut it all out. I used Lush Henna on my hair last SEPTEMBER(11') and on the 9th of this month I dyed my hair -- completely forgetting, because the colour was completely gone, that I had Henna'd my hair more than 6 months ago.

THIS is what happened to my hair, LOL. Of course, we still dyed over it fine -- but the dye overtop of the henna didn't last very long(red, normal) so now my hair is purple.

Be careful!
That looks to me like what happens when you bleach indigo. Bleaching indigo=green hair.
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Hi curlyjocelyn I used Lush Caca Marron about once a month. My hair is dark, so the color change isn't dramatic, but I like that it makes my hair feels smoother and gives it a lovely shine. After a henna treatment it almost feels like I've just gotten a haircut! Since henna behaves similarly to a protein treatment with the dye molecule bonding to the gaps in the hair's cuticle, your curls might spring up and shorten (or smooth out and lengthen a bit according to your pattern, I imagine). Although the cocoa butter in the Lush product makes for easy application, I remove my henna without shampoo (just conditioner) to give it extra time to bond to the hair and the butter weighs my hair down quite a bit. I do wash it out at the next shower and then we're back to the typically unweighted feeling. I'd recommend a moisturizing DT such as AOHR after you've washed out the cocoa butter, because it really does make a difference to soften the hair after henna.

Let me know if you have any other questions!


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Just as a pro-tip, NEVER forget if you Henna your hair, and be VERY careful if you ever dye it again, even if you think you've cut it all out. I used Lush Henna on my hair last SEPTEMBER(11') and on the 9th of this month I dyed my hair -- completely forgetting, because the colour was completely gone, that I had Henna'd my hair more than 6 months ago.

THIS is what happened to my hair, LOL. Of course, we still dyed over it fine -- but the dye overtop of the henna didn't last very long(red, normal) so now my hair is purple.

Be careful!
Hi Moonface Do you remember what brand of Henna you used on your hair? I think (but may be incorrect) that the blue/green comes from the presence of metallic salts in the dye which are added to some "Henna" hair dyes, but aren't characteristic of quality Henna hair dye.
It was Lush Henna. Caca Brun, I think.
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Just as a pro-tip, NEVER forget if you Henna your hair, and be VERY careful if you ever dye it again, even if you think you've cut it all out. I used Lush Henna on my hair last SEPTEMBER(11') and on the 9th of this month I dyed my hair -- completely forgetting, because the colour was completely gone, that I had Henna'd my hair more than 6 months ago.

THIS is what happened to my hair, LOL. Of course, we still dyed over it fine -- but the dye overtop of the henna didn't last very long(red, normal) so now my hair is purple.

Be careful!
That looks to me like what happens when you bleach indigo. Bleaching indigo=green hair.
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Just as a pro-tip, NEVER forget if you Henna your hair, and be VERY careful if you ever dye it again, even if you think you've cut it all out. I used Lush Henna on my hair last SEPTEMBER(11') and on the 9th of this month I dyed my hair -- completely forgetting, because the colour was completely gone, that I had Henna'd my hair more than 6 months ago.

THIS is what happened to my hair, LOL. Of course, we still dyed over it fine -- but the dye overtop of the henna didn't last very long(red, normal) so now my hair is purple.

Be careful!
Hi Moonface – Do you remember what brand of Henna you used on your hair? I think (but may be incorrect) that the blue/green comes from the presence of metallic salts in the dye which are added to some "Henna" hair dyes, but aren't characteristic of quality Henna hair dye.
It was Lush Henna. Caca Brun, I think.
Sounds like JLeighs might be onto something with "bleaching indigo = green hair" then since Caca Brun does in fact have indigo in it to tone down the red. Sorry to hear your henna/indigo experience was a bummer! I used Caca Brun henna the first time I henna'd in October, so I'll be sure to keep this in mind.
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Hey curlyjocelyn! I've tried the Lush Caca Noir, my hair is dark brown, so obviously no dramatic hair color changes (it is darker though). I've also used traditional Indian henna on my hair, and I only get reddish highlights, since my hair color is already dark, again, not much I can do about it. Personally, I prefer natural henna, because my experience with the Lush henna is mixed: I do like how my hair feels after I've used, but it is really hard to remove from my hair :\
The first time I used it, I tried to wash it off with conditioner only, as many reviewers suggested. My hair felt oily, dirty, and disgusting; at my next wash (right the next day) I realized I hadn't been able to remove it all.... afterwards I washed it off with shampoo and it was fine. But I never had rinsing problems with natural henna.

What's your natural hair color? If auburn is the color you want, your natural hair color will influence what color you get from henna (so it is a good idea to do a strand test). In this page they have many mixes you can make yourself: Henna for Hair: Dye hair with henna, indigo, cassia .... safely, beautifully!
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