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Cuban-curl-E 06-15-2012 04:31 PM

Adding warmth/red to my brown
 
I've been coloring my hair for a few years. My natural color is dark brown (with a good amount of gray) but I've just recently lightened to a more medium brown which is what I want. I don't want to go darker but I'd like to add some warmth and red/auburn tones without it looking brassy. I feel my color is too mousy -- it lacks richness. I currently use 6N but feel it's looking too neutral almost ashy. I guess this questions is for more experienced colorists. Any suggestions? Should I mix colors? Add a toner? Glaze?

Lilya 06-15-2012 07:07 PM

Well, it looks like you like to change your hair color frequently, otherwise I would suggest henna. As you probably know, that's as permanent as it gets! I had issues with my natural red color, the color of a brand new penny--I didn't think it was rich enough either. I've come to accept the color lately though.

I suggest a conditioner that tints your hair red. I had a friend with very dark hair and it turned hers auburn. I'm not sure about the brand though. Commercial red dye washes out really fast, so the shampoo/conditioner is better because it deposits some more each time you use it. I'm also not sure if the conditioner is co-wash friendly.

Cuban-curl-E 06-21-2012 06:50 AM

Thanks for the conditioner suggestion. Do you know who makes it? I used to use color conditioners from aveda a while ago that were pretty good.

I went to see my stylist and told her what I wanted. She colored my hair and now it's too dark and has too much burgundy in it. Ugh. I know it'll fade some but I just can't seem to get the right chocolate brown I want.

curlypearl 06-21-2012 07:06 PM

I have pretty much the same problem. I find it very difficult to get a rich brown that doesn't have ugly orange tones.

What I compromise with is using a neutral brown (like light brown or dark brown - not ash) and mixing some golden blonde with some of the light brown and streaking that in. This is how I do it.

As the roots come in: I make one bottle plain light or dark brown (depends on how light or dark my hair is currently). Then I make one bottle mixing the light brown with medium golden blonde. Then I will alternate applying it to the roots - usually two "streaks" brown with one streak mixed. By streak I mean when you part your hair with a comb and apply the mixture to the roots.

The result is subtle warm highlights throughout. Someone who cut my hair thought it had been done professionally - she complimented the color job.

I use L'Oreal Preference. Henna doesn't cover my gray so I stick with the Pref.

HTH. Let us know :)
ETA: I just re-read your post and you want reddish auburn highlights, so this might work with an auburn bottle instead of the blonde. I look hideous with any red so I use the blonde. Good luck!!!

Cuban-curl-E 06-21-2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by curlypearl (Post 1979313)
I have pretty much the same problem. I find it very difficult to get a rich brown that doesn't have ugly orange tones.

What I compromise with is using a neutral brown (like light brown or dark brown - not ash) and mixing some golden blonde with some of the light brown and streaking that in. This is how I do it.

As the roots come in: I make one bottle plain light or dark brown (depends on how light or dark my hair is currently). Then I make one bottle mixing the light brown with medium golden blonde. Then I will alternate applying it to the roots - usually two "streaks" brown with one streak mixed. By streak I mean when you part your hair with a comb and apply the mixture to the roots.

The result is subtle warm highlights throughout. Someone who cut my hair thought it had been done professionally - she complimented the color job.

I use L'Oreal Preference. Henna doesn't cover my gray so I stick with the Pref.

HTH. Let us know :)
ETA: I just re-read your post and you want reddish auburn highlights, so this might work with an auburn bottle instead of the blonde. I look hideous with any red so I use the blonde. Good luck!!!

Thanks for the tip. I may have to try this. It is very difficult to get the right chocolate brown that I want -- not brassy or burgundy! My medium brown was fading and was looking too yellow/ashy so I thought some auburn tones mixed with neutral brown could warm it up. So using your technique, I would mix 1 bottle neutral medium/dark brown, 1 bottle light brown + auburn? I am afraid that auburn may look brassy!

Cuban-curl-E 06-21-2012 08:02 PM

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This is kind of what I'm aiming for:

SusieSuze 06-22-2012 12:23 PM

You can find this product at salons and stores that sell professional products. If you have trouble finding it, you can ask your stylist to order it.
It's totally non-damaging and adds pigment, and takes 15 minutes. Just don't forget to wear gloves and watch out that you wipe up any errant mousse right away as it is so full of pigment it really stains fast.

Goldwell Soft Color
Goldwell Soft Color Foam Colorant reviews - Makeupalley

6RB might be perfect, or 4G. You can mix these shades easily as well.

http://markhamsalon.com/picts/goldwell/softcolor.jpg

I keep suggesting this because it really is so very good, and so many people have no idea that a product like this even exists.

Cuban-curl-E 06-22-2012 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SusieSuze (Post 1979686)
You can find this product at salons and stores that sell professional products. If you have trouble finding it, you can ask your stylist to order it.
It's totally non-damaging and adds pigment, and takes 15 minutes. Just don't forget to wear gloves and watch out that you wipe up any errant mousse right away as it is so full of pigment it really stains fast.

Goldwell Soft Color
Goldwell Soft Color Foam Colorant reviews - Makeupalley

6RB might be perfect, or 4G. You can mix these shades easily as well.

http://markhamsalon.com/picts/goldwell/softcolor.jpg

I keep suggesting this because it really is so very good, and so many people have no idea that a product like this even exists.

Great tip! I wish I knew of this before I colored. My hair is darker now than I wanted it to be so should I wait for it to fade some or will the color mousse make a difference on dark hair?

I'm definitely gonna order this and try it. Now just trying to figure out which color to get. Thanks SusieSuze!!!!

SusieSuze 06-23-2012 12:55 PM

Before ordering online, go to a salon that uses Goldwell colour. They will have the real colour swatches to help you decide.. and they can order it in for you too. For a $15 product, why pay shipping charges if you don't have to.

If you use it before your hair fades, It won't fade! :)

curlypearl 06-29-2012 04:18 AM

The brassiness is a big problem! Have you gone ahead with the coloring? What's the result?

caramix3a 07-06-2012 09:32 AM

Adding warmth/red to my brown
 
@Cuban-curl-E: WAIT until your too-dark hair has faded out. I know, it's hard, when one wants to correct something yesterday and all. But if you DON'T wait, you risk messing things up further. Haircolorists make a lot of money off of home color jobs gone bad, usually when one tries to fix something at home without knowing what they're doing. If you let your hair lighten up(and that can be moved along by using Prell shampoo a bunch of times along the way and of course using a really good conditioner since such a strong shampoo tends to dry out the hair)then you will notice the effects of the Goldwell product, since it ADDS pigment. This is different from traditional permanent color that lifts virgin color out of the hair and lightens if using a lighter, brighter color than one has naturally. So do definitely wait before doing anything!
With a demi-permanent color like the Goldwell, it's best to pick a couple of shades LIGHTER than one thinks one wants, due to the fact that it deposits color. In this case, maybe a light auburn or brighter copper, with a little bit of a brown mixed in(like 1 part of that to 3 parts of the red color). Best of luck!

Cuban-curl-E 07-06-2012 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by caramix3a (Post 1988683)
@Cuban-curl-E: WAIT until your too-dark hair has faded out. I know, it's hard, when one wants to correct something yesterday and all. But if you DON'T wait, you risk messing things up further. Haircolorists make a lot of money off of home color jobs gone bad, usually when one tries to fix something at home without knowing what they're doing. If you let your hair lighten up(and that can be moved along by using Prell shampoo a bunch of times along the way and of course using a really good conditioner since such a strong shampoo tends to dry out the hair)then you will notice the effects of the Goldwell product, since it ADDS pigment. This is different from traditional permanent color that lifts virgin color out of the hair and lightens if using a lighter, brighter color than one has naturally. So do definitely wait before doing anything!
With a demi-permanent color like the Goldwell, it's best to pick a couple of shades LIGHTER than one thinks one wants, due to the fact that it deposits color. In this case, maybe a light auburn or brighter copper, with a little bit of a brown mixed in(like 1 part of that to 3 parts of the red color). Best of luck!

Excellent advice! I actually read on the internet to wait at least 2 weeks before trying to fix color gone wrong so I decided to do that. It's been 2 weeks and I've shampooed almost daily, swam in the pool and I actually like the color it is now. Its lost the burgundy and is not as dark. I'd still like to try the foam or demi-perm color at some point to keep it warm and not brassy. I'm not sure if I should just try a light golden brown or light auburn to bring out the chocolate brown and tone down the burgundy. Thanks again!!


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