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Old 06-19-2013, 06:50 AM   #1
 
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Unhappy After dying with permanent to then semi permanent?

Hi guys! So I have a bit of a predicament. Around the end of April I dyed my hair purple so of course because my hair is normally a dark brown I had to bleach it and I guess the dye had peroxide in it. Either way when I was done dying me hair it turned out to be VERY soft and my curls (although changed a bit) they were more manageable! So on Sunday (June 16th) my mom took me to sally's beauty supply and the girl said to instead of re-bleaching and putting chemicals in my hair to instead get a semi-permanent dye. So now my head is a maroon-ish kind of red, its' actually really pretty with my 3C curls. But on the flip side, when I was done dying my hair it was so dry! I have no breakage but my hair feels like STRAW!!! I was going to go get my hair re-styled tomorrow (Thursday) but I don't know if there is something that I could do to make my curls softer or if there she can do something... is that possible for a hair dresser to fix??? PLEASE HELP ME! My curls are like... my beauty in a way and I can't stand to have them feel this gross. I'm sixteen and I just can't even cope.
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Old 06-19-2013, 01:00 PM   #2
 
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Welcome! What specific products have you used to get the purple and then the red and what are all the ingredients?

Next time you decide to do any sort of dye, run strand tests with shed plughole hair so you know what result to expect, don't use your head as a laboratory.
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CO-wash: Inecto coconut
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Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:09 PM   #3
 
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Hai, so I used Larger View
AGEbeautiful Anti-Aging Permanent Liqui-Creme Haircolor 3V Darkest Plum Brown to color it... and I had to use Kaleidocolors violet tonal powder lightener to lighten my hair, then Clairol Professionals Pure White Creme Developer (20 Standard Lift) and Age Beautiful 10 Volume gentle creme developer to use the purple color on my hair the ingredients for the purple dye were
Water/Aqua/Eau, Propylene Glycol, Ammonium Hydroxide, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Stearic Acid, Steareth-21, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Lauryl Glucoside, Mineral Oil/Paraffinum Liquidum/Huile Minerale, Cetyl Alcohol, Keratin, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Silk Amino Acids, Melanin, Sodium Methyl Cocoyl Taurate, Polyquaternium-53, Polysorbate 80, Carbomer, Cetearyl Alcohol, Ceteth-10 Phosphate, Dicetyl Phosphate, Glyceryl Stearate, Glycol Distearate, Isostearic Acid, Oleyl Alcohol, Phosphoric Acid, Sodium Metasilicate, Sodium Sulfite, EDTA, Erythorbic Acid, Fragrance/Parfum, 2,4-Diaminophenoxyethanol HCl, 4-Amino-2-Hydroxytoluene, N,N-Bis(2-Hydroxyethyl)-p-Phenylenediamine Sulfate, m-Aminophenol, Resorcinol, 1-Naphthol, p-Phenylenediamine
Anyways, then to dye it red I used Manic Panic Amplified Vampire Red hair dye... and I can't find the ingredients online for that or the other products since I went through them all..
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:27 PM   #4
 
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Hai, so I used Larger View
AGEbeautiful Anti-Aging Permanent Liqui-Creme Haircolor 3V Darkest Plum Brown to color it... and I had to use Kaleidocolors violet tonal powder lightener to lighten my hair, then Clairol Professionals Pure White Creme Developer (20 Standard Lift) and Age Beautiful 10 Volume gentle creme developer to use the purple color on my hair the ingredients for the purple dye were

Water/Aqua/Eau, Propylene Glycol, Ammonium Hydroxide, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Stearic Acid, Steareth-21, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Lauryl Glucoside, Mineral Oil/Paraffinum Liquidum/Huile Minerale, Cetyl Alcohol, Keratin, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Silk Amino Acids, Melanin, Sodium Methyl Cocoyl Taurate, Polyquaternium-53, Polysorbate 80, Carbomer, Cetearyl Alcohol, Ceteth-10 Phosphate, Dicetyl Phosphate, Glyceryl Stearate, Glycol Distearate, Isostearic Acid, Oleyl Alcohol, Phosphoric Acid, Sodium Metasilicate, Sodium Sulfite, EDTA, Erythorbic Acid, Fragrance/Parfum, 2,4-Diaminophenoxyethanol HCl, 4-Amino-2-Hydroxytoluene, N,N-Bis(2-Hydroxyethyl)-p-Phenylenediamine Sulfate, m-Aminophenol, Resorcinol, 1-Naphthol, p-Phenylenediamine

Anyways, then to dye it red I used Manic Panic Amplified Vampire Red hair dye... and I can't find the ingredients online for that or the other products since I went through them all..
I am familiar with Manic Panic, the good news is that has not damaged your hair. How did you prepare for that? If you clarified you probably washed all the oils and silicones out of your hair and revealed its true damaged condition. TBH the sales assistant at Sallys has probably saved you from having your hair completely fried and breaking off.

Are you saying you double processed to get the purple? Persulphate bleach blonde with peroxide developer and then another peroxide developer, did you do them back to back? If you did the softness you got was likely your hair protein structure being badly damaged and weakened.

Next time rest for your hair for a couple of weeks in between each process, do restructuring protein treatments. Never double or triple process and always run strand tests on shed plughole hair. Not sure I'd ever use any bleach product that works in ten minutes, that is too fast for you to evenly apply over your whole head, some parts will get fried whilst others are not yet coated.

Best thing you can do is a hardcore hydrolysed protein treatment to strengthen it, followed by an overnight deep conditioning product to 'moisturise' and soften it. For the protein stage you can get Colorful Neutral protein filler or Aphogee Two Step at Sallys or do a DIY gelatin treatment (see the recipes board). For deep conditioning you can make your own, basic conditioner plus honey plus aloe vera plus coconut oil.

You will need to use these regularly and you may find the protein makes your hair feel dry and strawlike, that is normal don't panic just deep condition. The protein will patch repair your hair, do understand that your hair is dead so nothing can permanently repair it, your hair will be 'fixed' when the damage has grown out.

Use a good leave in conditioner every time you wash, ingredients like coconut oil, hydrolysed protein, ceramides or panthenol are beneficial for damaged hair. Consider condition-wash-condition, so wet, condition your lengths, shampoo the scalp only, rinse and condition again. This protects your lengths from shampoo which is drying and damaging.

HTH.
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2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG, growing out mechanical and chemical damage = breakage and very high porosity. Past armpit length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut
Treatments: Komaza Matani, coconut oil, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss ultimate volume, Inecto argan
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Boots Essentials gel
Experimenting with: going back to basics
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Old 07-01-2013, 01:54 PM   #5
 
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I'll be sure to try that Aphogee stuff! I had used numerous deep conditioning treatments the past week or so to get my hair back to at least a contained nicer point and its done just that. I'll be sure to do a strand test next time and yeah I think I did have to process it twice to get my natural color to go away... either way thank youuu!!!
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Old 07-01-2013, 01:57 PM   #6
 
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And yeah I did use a clarifying shampoo before I re-dyed it, that was probably another problem
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