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belwillcoily 06-20-2013 07:23 AM

Weekly henna
 
Anybody do this and if so, have there been any ill effects to your hair? Also, if you do this, have there been any benefits to your hair?

A couple of months ago, I did a whole head henna application then I started doing my roots every 2 weeks.

I also changed my hair routine to where I wash twice a week instead of once a week and it's now warm outside. My hair tends to grow faster during warm weather months but I think cleansing my scalp more frequently is causing it to grow faster too.

In any case, faster growth is wonderful but it is a mixed blessing in that my grays are popping up much quicker now too. I'm thinking of applying henna to roots every week (as opposed to every 2 weeks) and wanted to hear from anyone who is already doing this or has done this. Pros? Cons?

I do a prepoo with coconut oil before I henna, I shampoo with a sulfate-free clarifying shampoo and when I rinse the henna out after it has been on for several hours, I do so with conditioner only. As a result, I have never experienced any of the dryness that many complain of after a henna treatment. And it strengthens my hair as well as colors my grays a mahogany color. I also use amla in my henna mix and indigo to tone down the red color of the henna.

All opinions, input, suggestions, etc. are welcome. LOL! Thanks in advance for your help.

Always@night 06-20-2013 07:45 AM

I used to Henna once a week, but my curls with the weakest curl pattern, in my bang area were loosened dramatically from s shaped/coils to just s shaped. But the only difference noticeable about loosening is while it is wet. Once dry everything springs and coils up. My hair was less frizzy, and shedding was greatly reduced and very soft when I henna'd weekly. (The shedding has also not returned sense I haven't henna'd in about a month)
I didn't mix anything in my henna except green tea. I might try a " henna gloss" treatment soon.

Korkscrew 06-20-2013 03:23 PM

You know, I have the same issue you have: my grays grow in fast, like weeds :angry3: Like you, I add amla to my henna mix (but no indigo).

I'm also thinking about hennaing my roots more frequently but it's so hard to only get henna on the roots. I know it will relax any already hennaed hair, even w/ amla in the mix. I know this because that's what happened when I hennaed my whole head. The fact that it acts as a relaxer (due to build up) is what's keeping me from doing weekly treatments.

That said, sounds like your hair may be more resistant to henna's relaxing effects. Still, it's a risk and you could lose curl if you re-henna parts of your hair. ... Maybe you could increase the amount of amla in your mix? That would further mute the color to a cooler, possibly darker shade (I'm considering this tactic :) ). To compensate, you could try using less indigo, perhaps. I would call the folks over at the henna forum and ask them about all this. They also have a phone help line. It's where I turn for henna info.

KaitAleese 06-26-2013 04:13 PM

I used henna once a week for about 2 months and didn't notice any ill effects. I have since cut it down to every 2 weeks, but I don't see there being a problem with every week if you have the time. I personally dont experience curl loosening and I henna my whole head every application, so I guess that just depends on how your curls respond to the henna.

Curly Sara 06-27-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Korkscrew (Post 2182734)
You know, I have the same issue you have: my grays grow in fast, like weeds :angry3: Like you, I add amla to my henna mix (but no indigo).

I'm also thinking about hennaing my roots more frequently but it's so hard to only get henna on the roots. I know it will relax any already hennaed hair, even w/ amla in the mix. I know this because that's what happened when I hennaed my whole head. The fact that it acts as a relaxer (due to build up) is what's keeping me from doing weekly treatments.

That said, sounds like your hair may be more resistant to henna's relaxing effects. Still, it's a risk and you could lose curl if you re-henna parts of your hair. ... Maybe you could increase the amount of amla in your mix? That would further mute the color to a cooler, possibly darker shade (I'm considering this tactic :) ). To compensate, you could try using less indigo, perhaps. I would call the folks over at the henna forum and ask them about all this. They also have a phone help line. It's where I turn for henna info.

Why do you mix amla with henna? Is Amla good for curly hair?

Noumenon 06-27-2013 10:53 PM

This is just an idea, I use a product called Neha, Herbal Mehandi (I pick it up at my local Indian grocery, $8 for a 1kg bag). Its CG friendly and is a brilliant hair conditioner and while it does colour your hair I find it much gentler on my curl then strait henna. Maybe give some thing like this a try?

Also I mix my henna with a conditioner, I still get really good colour coverage but It also leave my hair feeling healthier.

http://nehaherbals.com/explor-produc...al-hair-color/

Korkscrew 06-28-2013 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Curly Sara (Post 2185110)
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Originally Posted by Korkscrew (Post 2182734)
You know, I have the same issue you have: my grays grow in fast, like weeds :angry3: Like you, I add amla to my henna mix (but no indigo).

I'm also thinking about hennaing my roots more frequently but it's so hard to only get henna on the roots. I know it will relax any already hennaed hair, even w/ amla in the mix. I know this because that's what happened when I hennaed my whole head. The fact that it acts as a relaxer (due to build up) is what's keeping me from doing weekly treatments.

That said, sounds like your hair may be more resistant to henna's relaxing effects. Still, it's a risk and you could lose curl if you re-henna parts of your hair. ... Maybe you could increase the amount of amla in your mix? That would further mute the color to a cooler, possibly darker shade (I'm considering this tactic :) ). To compensate, you could try using less indigo, perhaps. I would call the folks over at the henna forum and ask them about all this. They also have a phone help line. It's where I turn for henna info.

Why do you mix amla with henna? Is Amla good for curly hair?

Sara, there's no science I can find to back this up, but a lot of curlies claim amla helps counteract henna's curl-loosening tendency. Despite adding amla to my henna, my curls loosened the first time I did it plus the second time, for which I only did my roots. It may have just loosened my curls less than if I'd added amla. Or the amla may have done nothing for curl retention. There's just no way to know.

Some things to consider about amla in a henna mix: Amla is acidic and can be used for dye release, so don't add lemon, ACV or anything else acidic w/the henna/amla or you will probably dry your hair out. Also, amla has a tendency to slightly "cool" the red tones of henna (less brassy looking) and possible darken the hair, though there's some argument as to whether either of these effects are permanent.

Curly Sara 06-29-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Korkscrew (Post 2185497)
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Originally Posted by Curly Sara (Post 2185110)
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Originally Posted by Korkscrew (Post 2182734)
You know, I have the same issue you have: my grays grow in fast, like weeds :angry3: Like you, I add amla to my henna mix (but no indigo).

I'm also thinking about hennaing my roots more frequently but it's so hard to only get henna on the roots. I know it will relax any already hennaed hair, even w/ amla in the mix. I know this because that's what happened when I hennaed my whole head. The fact that it acts as a relaxer (due to build up) is what's keeping me from doing weekly treatments.

That said, sounds like your hair may be more resistant to henna's relaxing effects. Still, it's a risk and you could lose curl if you re-henna parts of your hair. ... Maybe you could increase the amount of amla in your mix? That would further mute the color to a cooler, possibly darker shade (I'm considering this tactic :) ). To compensate, you could try using less indigo, perhaps. I would call the folks over at the henna forum and ask them about all this. They also have a phone help line. It's where I turn for henna info.

Why do you mix amla with henna? Is Amla good for curly hair?

Sara, there's no science I can find to back this up, but a lot of curlies claim amla helps counteract henna's curl-loosening tendency. Despite adding amla to my henna, my curls loosened the first time I did it plus the second time, for which I only did my roots. It may have just loosened my curls less than if I'd added amla. Or the amla may have done nothing for curl retention. There's just no way to know.

Some things to consider about amla in a henna mix: Amla is acidic and can be used for dye release, so don't add lemon, ACV or anything else acidic w/the henna/amla or you will probably dry your hair out. Also, amla has a tendency to slightly "cool" the red tones of henna (less brassy looking) and possible darken the hair, though there's some argument as to whether either of these effects are permanent.

Thsnk you for the info. But do snyone know if the amla oil is good to use as an hairoil? Does it do anything for curls?

Korkscrew 06-30-2013 05:34 PM

Sorry I couldn't help you with info about the oil, specifically. I've only used the powder form of amla.

May I suggest you search for your answer and/or post your question in the 4 forum? Quite a few of those ladies happen to have experience with and are quite knowledgable about amla oil (and several other ayurvedic herbs/oils too), including where to buy it, as I recall.

mamaherrera 07-15-2013 03:01 PM

wow this is so awesome to know that others do henna on their roots weekly. I thought I was the only one that committed to covering my white roots. My husband now convinced me to just do weekly roots on the ones that are close to my hairline and to let other areas go because he has to help me and it is somewhat of a pain. But a few questions:
1) how do you all get hendigo to get stick to white hairs in one step?? I tried so many times and it never worked so now I just do henna because it never fails and since I freeze it, I get a decent red color with just having it on two hours.
2) how do you get it all off the scalp without using shampoo afterwards? Because iI have found at times, that the next day I go to scratch my head or something and I come upon a big glob of dried henna, which would not feel good if I accidentally scratched that off my head, it would pull a few hairs with it that's for sure.
3) How do you all apply your henna to the roots? I currently have quite a thick mix, and we kind of paint it on with a little paint brush, but is there any easier way?
And finally, how do you all ensure you get all your roots without missing a spot?? seems complicated, but I'm so up for learning!

adthomas 07-15-2013 10:33 PM

I usually henna every twoweeks where I get grays. I use a henna cream either the one I got from WF or one from Sallys. My grays are some color absorb resistant little buggers and my hair grows so fast. I did an all over henna for first time in a year two days ago.

Korkscrew 07-16-2013 02:09 AM

What is in the henna cream besides henna? (inquiring minds want to know ;) ) ... Wondering if something in that cream could be inhibiting optimal dye uptake so that your grays aren't getting great coverage.

mamaherrera 12-06-2013 02:36 PM

have you all found more shedding
 
I henna weekly, on my roots only, in those areas that have whites. But I've had some people scare me saying that they have more shedding when they henna because of the weight of the henna, and the manipulation. Do you all find that to be true???? I hope not, because I like doing it that often. Just wondering on your experiences.

sixelamy 12-06-2013 03:12 PM

I just did two applications, a week apart. My curl pattern didn't decrease at all, but I'm sure I haven't done enough to see if it will or not. My hair was a lot curlier after using half henna and half amla. I wouldn't recommend the 1:1 ratio though, it had a bit of a drying effect. I toned it down on the next application to a 2:1 ratio and my hair feels amazing!

I think there may just be anecdotal evidence of amla helping keep your curl pattern when using henna.

I was wondering too - how the heck do you apply just to your roots? Will there be an overlap that is darker and look weird?

belwillcoily 12-07-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mamaherrera (Post 2229477)
I henna weekly, on my roots only, in those areas that have whites. But I've had some people scare me saying that they have more shedding when they henna because of the weight of the henna, and the manipulation. Do you all find that to be true???? I hope not, because I like doing it that often. Just wondering on your experiences.

MamaHerrera,

It's been about three months since I last henna'd but previous to that, I was doing henna every two weeks to cover gray roots (only) as well.

I have to admit that I did notice some thinning along my front hair line where the gray is the most numerous and where I would have the heaviest application of henna, so be careful. I did feel there was a connection between the amount of manipulation I was exposing my roots to plus the heaviness of the henna and the thinning hairline; I cannot lie. There was way more shedding than previously when I had henna'd only once a month. My hair strands loved henna but you can overdo anything. And looking back, I have questions about whether my scalp and hair follicles were in love with it.

Like I said, it's been three months since my last henna so my hair has filled back in along the edges where it was thinning before which I am very happy to see. Maybe try to cut back on how often you henna and in the meantime, you can style your hair in ways that hide the gray in between applications of henna? Maybe try and increase your time between applications to once a month... :dontknow:

Just be careful because there may be something to what you heard/read as I am a living, breathing example. :-|

Korkscrew 12-09-2013 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sixelamy (Post 2229485)
I just did two applications, a week apart. My curl pattern didn't decrease at all, but I'm sure I haven't done enough to see if it will or not. My hair was a lot curlier after using half henna and half amla. I wouldn't recommend the 1:1 ratio though, it had a bit of a drying effect. I toned it down on the next application to a 2:1 ratio and my hair feels amazing!

I think there may just be anecdotal evidence of amla helping keep your curl pattern when using henna.

I was wondering too - how the heck do you apply just to your roots? Will there be an overlap that is darker and look weird?

I know this question wasn't addressed to me, but just in case you might find it helpful: I've found that using a ratio of 4:1 henna/amla or 3:1, does result in my curls loosening, but only temporarily. To be on the safe side, I don't do repeated full-headed henna applications (no matter how much amla is added). Instead I do root touch-ups. To do that, I make a more viscous mix using less water than usual, to keep it from seeping onto a lot of already hennaed hair. There has to be some overlap when I do this. There's just no way to be as precise as it would be with commercial dye. But at least for me, the overlapping color is not at all obvious (I think).

Amla alone is a wonderful, albeit messy, treatment that brings out my hair's natural springiness. Sometimes I use it after suffering from over-conditioning, as it brings "structure" back to my hair. It's also an amazing facial treatment.

sixelamy 12-09-2013 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Korkscrew (Post 2230022)

I know this question wasn't addressed to me, but just in case you might find it helpful: I've found that using a ratio of 4:1 henna/amla or 3:1, does result in my curls loosening, but only temporarily. To be on the safe side, I don't do repeated full-headed henna applications (no matter how much amla is added). Instead I do root touch-ups. To do that, I make a more viscous mix using less water than usual, to keep it from seeping onto a lot of already hennaed hair. There has to be some overlap when I do this. There's just no way to be as precise as it would be with commercial dye. But at least for me, the overlapping color is not at all obvious (I think).

Amla alone is a wonderful, albeit messy, treatment that brings out my hair's natural springiness. Sometimes I use it after suffering from over-conditioning, as it brings "structure" back to my hair. It's also an amazing facial treatment.

It was addressed to anyone who would answer! lol

Thanks for the input. It's good to know it won't be noticeable, that's what I'm worried about. I might have someone do my roots instead of me trying - I get it everywhere on my head when I try to put that stuff on.

Korkscrew 12-09-2013 02:59 PM

Oh yeah, if you can find someone else to do your roots, terrific lol!


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