A way to dye hair without PPD exposure?

Hey everyone! I have a question for you.
I have been dying my hair brown for a while with redken shades eq.
A friend of mine who has been dying her hair for a while as well had a reaction for the first time. She told me about it and the chemical ppd. I've done research on it and I haven't died my hair since. I'm not allergic but apparently you can become allergic at any time like my friend did.
But at this point, my hair really needs it.
So...I need advice. This is going to sound ridiculous but here's what I want to do.
I want my hairstylist to use the dye directly on the bottom part of my hair. From the chin down. I'm going to wear like a turtleneck and put cotton balls in my ears. Then I want her to put the dye in foils from the chin up, including the scalp. But to not put any in like an inch away from the scalp. Then one foil at a time she can unwrap it and hold it up into the air putting a towel underneath it. Then she can shampoo the strand once and rinse it. Then shampoo the strand again and rinse it. Any dye will fall onto the towel. Then shampoo one more time and rinse. Then lay that strand down and move on to the next one and repeat. Yes it's tedious obviously but would it work?
This is the only dye I want to use and I HAVE to dye my hair. It needs it bad.

I don't want to wait until I become allergic, I want to take action now and be proactive.
There are PPD free dyes, also any really reputable salon should be running skin patch tests each time you see them, or you should be at home if DIYing.

What you are suggesting sounds ridiculously time consuming which means some sections will be processing much longer than other sections.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
There are PPD free dyes, also any really reputable salon should be running skin patch tests each time you see them, or you should be at home if DIYing.

What you are suggesting sounds ridiculously time consuming which means some sections will be processing much longer than other sections.
Originally Posted by Firefox7275
I haven't been able to find a PPD free dye that seems promising besides cosamo and even then, I'm nervous to try it. Do you have any you would recommend? I know I should do a patch test but that doesn't solve the problem because eventually you will become allergic. So I could dye my hair for 5 years with no problem (patch testing every time) and then do a patch test and react and then I'm done and can't dye it anymore. So I'm trying to figure out a way to completely avoid exposure to it.

So would my technique throw the color off?
I haven't been able to find a PPD free dye that seems promising besides cosamo and even then, I'm nervous to try it. Do you have any you would recommend? I know I should do a patch test but that doesn't solve the problem because eventually you will become allergic. So I could dye my hair for 5 years with no problem (patch testing every time) and then do a patch test and react and then I'm done and can't dye it anymore. So I'm trying to figure out a way to completely avoid exposure to it.

So would my technique throw the color off?
Originally Posted by BlondeBeauty
Quite a few of the so-called 'natural' or 'organic' permanent box dyes (health food store type brands, still loaded with artificial chemicals tho) are PPD free; some of the Garnier Nutrisse lines are which is what I use. I would be surprised if Sallys didn't sell something. Anything that claims to cover grey is highly likely to contain PPD.

Not sure if that is a typo but no there is no certainty that eventually you WILL become allergic, you jut might and it can happen at any time as with any other allergen of which there are many in skincare and haircare products. Severe reactions are very rare, not saying you should not be cautious you absolutely are right to consider it. But most people who have severe reactions didn't bother with a patch test and/ or previously had a mild reaction which they ignored.

Your technique would take forever, so some hair would be processing for a short time and some for a long time, you risk a lot of damage which could cause you major problems with porosity and breakage over time. That's if you could get the stylist to agree to it.

Do you really need to permanently dye your lengths each time? Could you permanent the roots then semi permanent the rest? I appreciate that doesn't resolve the problem entirely but it does shorten the working time and there would be less goop on your head to wash off. Your colourist might also put a barrier product on your hairline if you ask.

If you are not already start avoiding sulphates and other harsh anionic surfactants, not just in shampoo but in face and neck products. Sulphates are proven to thin and dehydrate the skin at concentrations as low as 1% which can leave it more vulnerable to irritation and allergies. You can also reduce the risk of future allergies with diet modification: think anti inflammatory nutrient dense wholefoods.
2a-2c, medium texture, porous/ colour treated. Three years CG. Past bra strap length heading for waist.

CO-wash: Inecto coconut/ Elvive Volume Collagen
Treatments: Komaza Care Matani, coconut/ sweet almond/ fractionated coconut oils, Hairveda Sitrinillah
Leave in: Fructis Sleek & Shine (old), Gliss Ultimate Volume, various Elvive
Styler: Umberto Giannini jelly, Au Naturale styling gelee
Flour sack towel, pixie diffuse or air dry.
Experimenting with: benign neglect
Just this week I heard of someone who suddenly became allergic to PPD and had a huge reaction.

I stopped using brown hair color two years ago for the same reason--I was scared . I use henna and indigo and with some experimenting found the right timing to get the color I need (dark ash brown) and now it works great. Look at hennaforhair . com to get some ideas and links to the really pure herbal color (stuff in stores may have harmful chemicals, even PPD). Using herbal hair color is time consuming but not especially fiddly like what you suggest above.
Just this week I heard of someone who suddenly became allergic to PPD and had a huge reaction.
Originally Posted by hairy situation
It happens to some people and not to others like the other posters have already said.
Firefox,

I will definitely make some adjustments in my diet. One anti-inflammatory food I love is blueberries so I will start eating those on a daily basis again like I used to. I looked up Garnier Nutrisse and they do contain PPD. At least the one I saw does. Which specific one do you use?

I found a hair stylist who is willing to do it my way and this is what she said. She has been working with Redken Shades EQ for 10 years. At first she seemed to think it was a bit strange but when I explained about the allergy, she understood. She would put the foils all in at once. Once they have processed, the color does not go any darker. She also said that it doesn’t damage your hair if it’s left in too long. If we were dealing with bleach or a permanent dye then yes it would but not with the Shades EQ, it’s very conditioning. She’s going to rinse out a few at a time (not one, but a few at once) using a towel. It shouldn’t take that long doing a few at a time. She said she’s not worried about time either. The only concern she had is that she said my natural color would be at the very top since she wouldn’t be touching the scalp. It would look like I had used permanent dye and my roots were growing in. But if I’d be okay with that, she’d be willing to do that. I said I’d have to see the first time but that I think I’d be okay with that. Plus I’m planning on getting bangs so it’s going to change my part from a middle part to a side part which will make it less obvious. I think I will have her do either 1/4 or 1/16 of an inch though. Not a whole inch. And then shampoo each section 3 times (I forgot to mention this part but I’m sure she’d be okay with that).

Other than being time consuming (which is better now that she will be rinsing a few foils at a time instead of one) and processing longer (which she said isn’t an issue), will this completely protect me from the PPD? Will I have no exposure at all? What could I use as a barrier product?

I know I could dye it the normal way and do a patch test each time but I don’t want to become allergic at all ever. It can’t happen. PPD is not like other allergens. PPD is VERY dangerous. If you become allergic to PPD, you become allergic to most everything in modern society. My skin lotion and my chapstick that I love both contain petroleum. PPD comes from petroleum. You become allergic to PPD you become allergic to petroleum. It’s that dangerous. You become sensitized to a lot of things including black clothing and orange peels. Yes, there are risks and allergies with a lot of stuff but none are this dangerous. It’s so dangerous that it’s ILLEGAL. The only legal use of it is as a hair dye when it does not touch the skin which is what I’m doing. The FDA does not even approve hair dye. When people started having reactions, the hair dye industry feared the FDA would take it off the market so the industry got coal-tar dye exempted from this.

It’s all on this site. The first link tells all about it, the second link is one girl’s story about what she went through. It’s very informative yet scary.
Henna for Hair
Henna for Hair


Redken Shades EQ isn’t a permanent dye so I wouldn’t be permanently dying the roots or the ends. It would be demi-permanent throughout the whole hair and it fades out gradually and then you get it done again. I don’t ever plan on using permanent dye.
Does anyone know if this method would work and keep me completely unexposed to PPD? I've been told the chemical is microscopic and I'll still be exposed to it after the 3 shampoos when it's wet and my hairdresser is styling my hair. But I figured I can put a big towel/shirt around my neck while she is styling my hair so it doesn't touch my skin cause once it is dry you are fine.

My appointment is in a couple days and I'm soooooo nervous! I've been told I'm putting myself more at risk since most of the exposure is after (styling the wet hair, taking a shower later, etc) and not during and I'm delaying the before exposure. Plus I don't know since the color is going to be in the foils for a good amount of time, am I putting myself more at risk that way or are you not exposed to the color at all while it's in the foil?

Opinions/thoughts needed!! Nervous girl here
:/ really, BB, I think that the only thing that will keep you safe from PPD is AVOIDING it altogether. You seem really scared of it so it makes no sense that you'd be willing to risk exposure regardless of your fears! You yourself mentioned its awful effects and whether you'll get allergic or not, your worry should be enough of a reason to switch to herbal dyes.

I used lots of semi-permanent dyes until last year and only switched to herbal because of damage... but trust me, there are lots of pre-mixed henna/indigo boxes that are completely chemical free and will give you every shade from red to black. They're great, they make your hair great, and are natural.

I really think you should give them a try, they changed my dye-life completely. And being a 24-year-old with some white hair already, I NEED dye.

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