Curlies who have used Henna . . .

I henna'd today as well. We have a whole wavy henna revolution going on over there in the 2's board!

Here are some pics. One on the left is me before and the others are after.

So far I love it. Love the color and my hair feels softer, smoother but not like its over conditioned and my hair is actually curlier than before (I used amla). It does feel a tad bit thicker. I used Dulham Henna from my local Indian store and Reshma Amla--about 25g Amla to 80-90g henna. Used water only to mix. No indigo.

Yeah henna!! Now I just have to do glosses I hope to cover the roots..I also have a few areas close to the scalp that didn't color well. That always happened when I had my hair colored at the salon as well.
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Your hair will feel thicker with subsequent henna treatments. However, with just glosses, there's not enough henna deposited to get that effect - you can do cassia treatments for it, though. Remember glosses are weak and don't impart much color - just enough to lightly color greys. So, if your natural color was affected much and you want to keep up that color, you'll need to do root touch-ups with full strength dye-released product, not just glosses.

(I'm going to copy this over on the other thread, too so that these points aren't missed there)
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

www.fotki.com/auntnett
I was just reading another thread where someone said they lost their curls in the front of their hair from using henna. I know everyone's different and this wouldn't necessarily happen to me, but does anyone know what is in henna that causes that?
I think it's just that henna weighs your hair down. The hair around the face is often more porous because a lot more gets done to it, so maybe it actually absorbs more of the henna into the hair shaft and is, thus, more weighed down. Amla in the mix usually counteracts any relaxing effect the henna has, though.
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

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I've done four full hennas and one gloss and my hair is just as curly as ever. In fact, it's always curlier the day after.
Oh ok, Thanks for explaining that, Auntnett

I think it's just that henna weighs your hair down. The hair around the face is often more porous because a lot more gets done to it, so maybe it actually absorbs more of the henna into the hair shaft and is, thus, more weighed down. Amla in the mix usually counteracts any relaxing effect the henna has, though.
Originally Posted by auntnett
auntnett- how much amla would you suggest that i mix into my henna (i'll be using 200g of henna)? do you mix the amla in right before applying the henna or do you mix it in earlier and let it sit overnight with the henna?

thanks!!
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CG since summer 2009
3a/3b
Co-wash: V05 Moisture Milks Stawberrries & Cream

Rise Out/Leave-in: Biolage Conditioning Balm
La Bella Alcohol Free Gel (level 10)
BAQ Henna and Indigo to cover grey
I just got my henna in the mail yesterday and am gonna set it up tonight to use tomorrow. I want to use a henna/indigo/cassia/alma mix but I am not exactly sure what amount to mix of each.

Auntnett: I saw that you have used this mix from looking at your pictures. Do you think you can give me some direction as how much I should mix up? my hair has not changed from my avatar and it is pretty thick. Thanks so much for the help.
[COLOR=Navy]CG since 4/10/13
Hair Type 2, Texture-Fine, Porosity-Normal, Elasticity-Normal and very Dense.


If I remember correctly, Catherine's book said to use 1/4 the amount of the other stuff you use (sorry, I don't have the book with me). So, for 200g of henna, you'd use 50g amla. However, if you were also using, e.g., 100g cassia and 100g indigo, you'd use 100g amla. Again, this is just if memory serves me correctly.

If you ordered your henna, etc. from Mehandi, they always include several pages with basic instructions for henna, indigo, cassia, and amla. I'd check it for proper proportions to be sure. I also see that you can download the complete instructions for amla here - can't download internet files here, so I didn't confirm anything I previously said . . . .
www.mehandi.com/shop/amla/

Teric506, I first based it on suggested amounts from the book of overall mix needed for my length hair, so I used 1 c. cassia, 1/2 c. henna, 1/2 c. indigo (mixed at the last minute, not included in the mix while waiting on dye release - it loses it effectiveness pretty quickly). My hair was about the length it is now, and that ended up being too much mix for one application. I froze what I didn't use (more about that below), and it was just enough for my first root touch-up.

However, I liked the color from those proportions, so next time I mixed some up, I used the same 2 parts cassia:1 part henna:1 part indigo:1/4 part amla ratio. This first time to be sure you have enough, you may still want to go with that original recipe and freeze what you don't need. To use the remainder, thaw and at the last minute, add fresh indigo - it doesn't hurt it to freeze it, but it won't still lend its color afterward. You'll have to guesstimate the amount you should add back in based on the amount of mix you had frozen. Henna and cassia work fine after freezing.

In some ways it's actually easier to mix up big batches and freeze leftovers - then you're ready to go the next time without having to wait for dye release. It thaws pretty quickly. I froze it in zip lock bags, thawed it in the bag, snipped the corner off, and then squeezed it directly onto my hair from the bag - much like a piping bag for cake decorating, etc. Others mix up large batches and freeze it in color applicator bottles in the amounts they know it takes for root touch-ups. I'd probably do that if were still doing normal henna applications.

HTH!
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

www.fotki.com/auntnett
thanks for all the info, I did order from mehandi.com and remember a packet came with the henna I just havent sat down to order it yet. I just wanted to get someones opinion who had hair color similar to what I wanted. It is hard to tell the depth from your pictures but your hair turned out a medium brownish color right? If I freeze what I have left over can I use the leftovers for glosses if this I get the color right this time around? Thanks again for all of the help, I really appreciate it.

Teri
[COLOR=Navy]CG since 4/10/13
Hair Type 2, Texture-Fine, Porosity-Normal, Elasticity-Normal and very Dense.


thanks auntnett! :-)
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CG since summer 2009
3a/3b
Co-wash: V05 Moisture Milks Stawberrries & Cream

Rise Out/Leave-in: Biolage Conditioning Balm
La Bella Alcohol Free Gel (level 10)
BAQ Henna and Indigo to cover grey
Yes, it's a warm medium brown - not nearly as red-looking as in some of the pictures but a little more than it looks in the shorter pictures.
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

www.fotki.com/auntnett
ok my henna is mixed and sitting on the counter until morning. I had to improvise and I'm a little worried about that. I got the medium brunette kit from mehandi which said it came with 100g henna, 100g indigo, and 25g alma but when i opened the bag it only had 3g of alma. I got cassia seperately and mixed that with the henna and the 3g of alma. I didnt want to use no alma at all because I was trying to keep my curl so hopefully the 3g will help a tiny bit. Should I have just left it out all together? So my mixture was 100g cassia, 50g henna and I will mix 50g indigo tomorrow. Hopefully this will still turn out ok.
[COLOR=Navy]CG since 4/10/13
Hair Type 2, Texture-Fine, Porosity-Normal, Elasticity-Normal and very Dense.


Indigo is for dark color, right? What does cassia do? Are they all in powder form?

I just got my henna in the mail yesterday and am gonna set it up tonight to use tomorrow. I want to use a henna/indigo/cassia/alma mix but I am not exactly sure what amount to mix of each.

Auntnett: I saw that you have used this mix from looking at your pictures. Do you think you can give me some direction as how much I should mix up? my hair has not changed from my avatar and it is pretty thick. Thanks so much for the help.
Originally Posted by teric506
Cassia is sometimes called clear or neutral henna, although they're actually totally different plants. It gives hair the same strengthening and conditioning benefits as henna but with no color.

I used it in my henna mix to diminish the redness of the henna yet still have enough mixture to cover all my hair. Now since I no longer use full-strength dye-released henna, I occasionally apply cassia so that I still get the strengthening benefits and to lessen my hair's porosity.
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

www.fotki.com/auntnett
Oh ok. That makes sense. Thanks again for being so helpful!

Cassia is sometimes called clear or neutral henna, although they're actually totally different plants. It gives hair the same strengthening and conditioning benefits as henna but with no color.

I used it in my henna mix to diminish the redness of the henna yet still have enough mixture to cover all my hair. Now since I no longer use full-strength dye-released henna, I occasionally apply cassia so that I still get the strengthening benefits and to lessen my hair's porosity.
Originally Posted by auntnett
Cassia is sometimes called clear or neutral henna, although they're actually totally different plants. It gives hair the same strengthening and conditioning benefits as henna but with no color.
Originally Posted by auntnett
I read on the Beauty Brains forum that there is no proof that henna makes hair stronger. Is that true?

Here is the caption that I read from the Left Brain:

http://www.thebeautybrains.com/vanil...&page=1#Item_0

"The Beauty Brains are a group of cosmetic scientists who understand what the chemicals used in cosmetics really do, how products are tested, and what all the advertising means."
Hair Type - wavy/curly, fine texture, thin/medium density

Last edited by anniemae; 10-21-2009 at 11:15 AM.
There is plenty of other anecdotal evidence, but that's not scientific proof. I don't know - I'm no scientist, but based on my own hair, I disagree with the naysayers. I've read many places that henna binds with the keratin in your hair, making it stronger. That certainly seems to be what happened with mine.

I was having a lot of breakage and even an area of complete hair loss before henna. Within just a couple of treatments, that all greatly improved. When I started doing just weak glosses, the strength degraded again. I added back in occasional cassia treatments, and it recovered again.

More than all this, plain vegetable dye is much safer for your health than chemical hair colors, especially darker colors.
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

www.fotki.com/auntnett

Last edited by auntnett; 10-21-2009 at 11:37 AM.
auntnett,

Yes, I agree with you. Thanks for your thoughts.
Hair Type - wavy/curly, fine texture, thin/medium density
2C/3A/3B - mod. CG, med. to fine, normal to low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated, GTTT or Aim2Health 'poos as scalp needs, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein Trtmt & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, AO Mandarin Magic, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing then clips or clamps & air dry. Blend gray w/henna glosses

www.fotki.com/auntnett

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