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Speckla 03-22-2008 04:00 PM

My grey will not hold color!!
 
My grey hair will not hold color no matter what I've used: Drugstore or Salon!

I did a rinse maybe 2 weeks ago and the color is holding strong on my brown hair but has totally washed off my greys...grrr! I have a rather large patch of greys in my bangs that I want to cover...not sure what to do now.

Speckla

Riot Crrl 03-22-2008 04:04 PM

Drugstore boxes covered mine fine for years until very recently, then they just stopped working on the grey.

That was one contributing factor of my ultimate decision to henna...

lapushka 03-22-2008 04:08 PM

Usually they make a difference between dye that does cover grey hair and dye that doesn't. And the dye that does cover the greys is divided into strong dye that could cover a whole head of grey hair and less stronger dye that might cover up to 20%.

Kaisercurls 03-22-2008 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Speckla (Post 528257)
My grey hair will not hold color no matter what I've used: Drugstore or Salon!

I did a rinse maybe 2 weeks ago and the color is holding strong on my brown hair but has totally washed off my greys...grrr! I have a rather large patch of greys in my bangs that I want to cover...not sure what to do now.

Speckla

Have you used any of Nice and easy products? They have a new color that I want to try called Perfect 10. The box says its garenteed. I think Loreal Excellence Cream is a great color also. I am VERY grey and its not even grey, its white hair. So, mine is hard to cover as well.

alwaysaangel 03-23-2008 12:24 AM

I have really resistant grey too. Its really annoying.

A couple of things to do:

1) Keep trying dyes - there is one thats right for you. Remember you want Permanent and FOR GRAY hair. I've personally had no luck with nice and easy or garnier. But Loreal has been ok as well as one called Natural something or other. Unfortunately they keep discontinuing my colors so I have to change and try again.

2) Go to a salon store and ask for "grey drops" its an additive you put in the dye to make it hold better.

3) Let it stay in a little longer than instructed - you have to be VERY careful with this especially if you do your whole head. Do it normal the first time then add 5 min with each subsequent dye. Eventually you'll find a good time for you
(seriously this works well but you have to be very careful - DO NOT get cocky - I assumed adding 20 min to a new dye would be fine because I always add 20 min and now I have a botched dye job thats about 5 shades darker than my normal/natural color - its going to take ages to return)

Good luck!

HarleyCurl 03-23-2008 12:30 AM

Some of my gray was coming through UNTIL I put the vinegar rinse on. Now ALOT is showing. It's like the vinegar stripped off a ton of the color.

jillipoo 03-23-2008 01:01 AM

Have you tried Robert Craig? My gray is pretty resistant, too, and I'm finding that Robert Craig color is covering it pretty well.

HarleyCurl 03-23-2008 01:08 AM

Hey there Jilli! I haven't tried the Robert Craig. My stylist does my hair. She mixes two different colors together and I don't know what she uses.

jillipoo 03-23-2008 01:19 AM

My stylist was mixing a few colors for me, too. She used Matrix colors. And I loved it but I could see that it was drying my hair out over time. Plus, toward the end, it wasn't taking color like it used to -- sometimes I'd leave and my roots had been dyed but still weren't as dark as the rest of my hair.

So, I tried Robert Craig back in December. I wasn't crazy about it at first -- primarily because I hate applying hair color myself. I'm all thumbs and miss spots no matter how careful I am. Plus, with Robert Craig, they don't tell you that if you apply it over existing salon color, it turns black! There are many quirks that go with using Robert Craig color and I'm still not 100 percent happy with it, but I want to keep trying because despite all the annoyances, it does cover my gray better than salon color did.

One of the women here, CurliLocks, dispenses excellent advice about Robert Craig color, so if you have questions or concerns, she can usually answer them. Plus, you can write Robert Craig's help desk directly (the only problem is, your questions are more likely to come up *after* you've colored your hair!).

Anyway, I raise the idea not only because it covers gray well (at least for me) but also because it has no ammonia or peroxide.

HarleyCurl 03-23-2008 01:26 AM

Thanks for the advice about the Robert Craig, Jilli. I will ask my stylist about it and see if she's ever heard of it. I think I would be terrified of doing my own color! It's probably easier than I think it is though.

I haven't hair highlights in my hair for a few months now, just color and am thinking of getting a few either April or May.For now I am using my gray as my highlights! LOL My hair is orginally really really dark brunette. I have given some thought to going gray but the transition may look awful! I have seen KurlyKarenLees pics and her's looks great! My hair is more salt and pepper, I am thinking.

jillipoo 03-23-2008 01:37 AM

Sad to say, but your stylist probably will never have heard of Robert Craig. Mine sure didn't.

So, I've been ordering it online (www.robertcraig.com) and applying it myself at home, but I think next month I'm going to buy it and bring it to the salon and see if she'll apply it for me! (I just *know* there are gray patches growing on the back of my head...!)

I'm scared to go salt and pepper, too! I envy women who take that plunge.

Riot Crrl 03-23-2008 01:47 AM

Gah, me too. I can't wait to have enough grey so I could transition and have it look decent. I'm in love with the silver fox look, but the amount I have now it just looks like I forgot to color them, or something. It is hard to explain.

jillipoo 03-23-2008 01:51 AM

I am eagerly awaiting that magical age when I no longer care how much gray I have or what shade of gray it is. I thought the magical age would be 40, but now it's looking like it won't even be 50!

It's a drag being a slave to the bottle. (The hair color bottle, I mean.)

Riot Crrl 03-23-2008 02:00 AM

Lol, now I'm just a slave to the foil packet.

I don't know for how long though because this is a pretty color but I would really like to brown it down just a little. Dark dyes (other than henna) won't stay in my hair at all, even the pigmented hairs. My indigo tests are all having zero result.

Maybe I was just meant to look like the Little Mermaid.

jillipoo 03-23-2008 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot Crrl (Post 528678)

Maybe I was just meant to look like the Little Mermaid.

Hmmm. Well, you *do* live in a pretty wet climate...

Riot Crrl 03-23-2008 02:08 AM

Lorraine Massey says that all curly girls are mermaids who were made to unnaturally walk upon land. She can be a little over the top at times.

Speckla 03-23-2008 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot Crrl (Post 528682)
Lorraine Massey says that all curly girls are mermaids who were made to unnaturally walk upon land. She can be a little over the top at times.

That seems a bit fishy to me. :fish: :laughing7:

I want to try some RC or I am want to wait for all the commercial dye to grow out and try some body
henna. I've seen what it can do to certain metalic dyes and I don't know what's been used on my hair (several drug store and salon colors). I've left dye for grey hair on longer (20 minutes) and applied heat from my blow dryer...my greys just don't wanna be colored. I'm going to keep on try though. I'm 33 and I'm about 20% grey. My bangs are nearly 50% grey and the rest is scattered all over my head and increasing in streaks as we speak. :thumbdown:

Speckla

Kaisercurls 03-24-2008 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Speckla (Post 528708)
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Originally Posted by Riot Crrl (Post 528682)
Lorraine Massey says that all curly girls are mermaids who were made to unnaturally walk upon land. She can be a little over the top at times.

That seems a bit fishy to me. :fish: :laughing7:

I want to try some RC or I am want to wait for all the commercial dye to grow out and try some body
henna. I've seen what it can do to certain metalic dyes and I don't know what's been used on my hair (several drug store and salon colors). I've left dye for grey hair on longer (20 minutes) and applied heat from my blow dryer...my greys just don't wanna be colored. I'm going to keep on try though. I'm 33 and I'm about 20% grey. My bangs are nearly 50% grey and the rest is scattered all over my head and increasing in streaks as we speak. :thumbdown:

Speckla

I will tell you RIGHT NOW, Robert Craig color stinks for grey hair. It will NOT give you the coverage you want. See the Hair Color section of this website. I wouldn't waste my time or money on that product.

Riot Crrl 03-24-2008 11:41 PM

Body art quality henna does not do anything to metallic dyes, except dye over it. Strand tests are always in order, but I can personally attest to having a head full of Feria and BAQ henna has only made it better. And much more red.

This is only if you can be assured of getting 100% BAQ henna from a reliable supplier.

But even if not, the danger I think does not lie in adding metal salt (may be in compound henna) to metal salt (may be in commercial dyes), it's adding bleach and peroxide and other chemical processes over metal salt that's already in the hair.

curlsgirl 03-25-2008 10:55 AM

See where I posted a correction on the following post on down in this thread...

I agree about the Robert Craig not covering the gray if it is very much at all. They even tell you that on the website. That is why I decided not to use it. I use Loreal Preference cream and really like it. I have about 20% gray or maybe a bit more. In the picture in my siggy I have old highlights down the length also but I usually only do my roots in a dark blond. It's halfway between my silvers and my brown and it blends really well. Oh and I still use the box.


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