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SpaghettiHead 08-04-2011 02:25 PM

How can you low carb it AND count calories?
 
My question is this…is it realistic to eat Low carb/low sugar AND count calories? Or is it better to pick just one and stick strictly to that?
I don’t want to do a low fat diet…I’m always hungry which makes me always grumpy…plus I don’t want all of the artificial sweeteners that come with low fat foods….I typically eat low carb/sugar and I’ve really been working on getting more protein…but everything seems to be higher in calories this way.

I am working on trimming up (building muscle) and maybe dropping 10 lbs….
(and yes, I realize that I should cut processed foods as much as possible....but with my schedule right now it's not always an option)

Everyone keeps telling me to count calories…but I still want to keep it low carb/sugar…..is that possible? What would I be eating if I did?

The more I type this post the more convoluted it seems…ugh. I hope this makes sense to someone out there!! ;)

midgi 08-04-2011 03:34 PM

Actually a lot of people who follow a low-carb diet also count calories. Although, I think counting calories is over-the-top and completely unnecessary when you can easily stay under your daily calorie allowance by estimating portion sizes based on the size of your fist (equals roughly 1 cup) and reading nutrition labels.

I've used the My Plate website to get an idea of the types of foods and how much of each food group I should be eating everyday to maintain my health and current weight.

As far as low-fat is concerned, I would stick to consuming low-fat dairy products only, because they're typically fortified with the same amount of nutrients as full-fat dairy. Other low-fat products (like meal replacements and junk food) contain less fat but usually have just as many calories and more sugar to make up for it.

You can also eat processed foods and still be healthy as long as you still strive to get all your essential nutrients from a variety of food sources besides processed foods. Reading nutrition labels is really what makes sorting the good stuff from the bad stuff easy. HTH

solidgold 08-06-2011 04:18 PM

I've been counting calories for most of the summer and been really frustrated (I tried Weight Watchers, sparkpeople, and myfitnessplan). 2 weeks ago I started following the Precision Nutrition plan (it's not really a plan, I just don't know what to call it). A couple of super fit people (separately) recommended this plan so I thought I'd give it a try. The premise is, eat more protein, replace most carbs with vegetables, eat less bad fat/more good fat. Common sense stuff.

The author has a cookbook called "Gourmet Nutrition" that I've been using for meal ideas. Everything I've made has been delicious. I haven't been hungry, and I've felt great for the past 2 weeks--strong, healthy, leaner.

Start here for information:
Precision Nutrition

I followed his advice on using protein powder in smoothies to up protein, taking a multivitamin, and omega3 oil. I absolutely have felt an improvement in my mood and energy levels, so I have no fears about recommending this plan to anyone! I haven't been counting calories on this plan, but I'm slowly losing weight. I only want to lose about 5 pounds, so I'm focusing on making sure I'm not hungry, and am feeling good and enjoying my food (all of which was troublesome when counting calories).

So, I hope all that is "food" for thought!

SpaghettiHead 08-08-2011 01:07 PM

Thank you guys!Both of your posts were very helpful!
Midgi: I will def check into myplate to get good ideas of foods/portions...I think portions sometimes get the better of me!! Thank you!

Solidgold: did you invest in the entire program? ($150)? That seems like a lot of money...but the way you describe the eating is exactly what I'm doing now...except I only maintain, not lose...hence the question about counting calories too...need something to get the ball rolling.

I'm interested in this...just don't know if buying the entire schpeel is necessary???

kathymack 08-08-2011 03:52 PM

If you do a "strict" low carb diet, you should be able to lose weight without counting calories. For the most part, low fat products have more carbs then full fat products. You always need to check. If they are the same, I go with the lower fat product.

JillH410 08-08-2011 06:55 PM

I don't think it's necessary to count calories, but keep a rough idea of a what a portion size is in your head. The Precision diet mentioned above seems sort of similar to eating Paleo or Primal, though maybe not as strict. I've eaten primally and while I absolutely loved it and had a huge amount of energy, it was just too expensive if you tried to experiment with replacing grains. It was just easier to not even worry about eating any sort of grains.

A really good website about eating primally is www.marksdailyapple.com I actually found out about this type of diet/lifestyle from someone on here. It's definitely interesting.

solidgold 08-08-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SpaghettiHead (Post 1737453)

Solidgold: did you invest in the entire program? ($150)? That seems like a lot of money...but the way you describe the eating is exactly what I'm doing now...except I only maintain, not lose...hence the question about counting calories too...need something to get the ball rolling.

I'm interested in this...just don't know if buying the entire schpeel is necessary???

Nope, I just bought the cookbook (Gourmet Nutrition) on Amazon. I did buy the supplements he recommended, and a Magic Bullet to make smoothies in the mornings, but those were not required. His free website (precisionnutrition.com) has lots of good articles and information. Try searching there to get beyond your plateau!

Try myfitnessplan.com for counting calories. It's very intuitive and easy to use. I liked its interface much better than WW or sparkpeople.

Good luck!

SpaghettiHead 08-08-2011 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by solidgold (Post 1737725)
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Originally Posted by SpaghettiHead (Post 1737453)

Solidgold: did you invest in the entire program? ($150)? That seems like a lot of money...but the way you describe the eating is exactly what I'm doing now...except I only maintain, not lose...hence the question about counting calories too...need something to get the ball rolling.

I'm interested in this...just don't know if buying the entire schpeel is necessary???

Nope, I just bought the cookbook (Gourmet Nutrition) on Amazon. I did buy the supplements he recommended, and a Magic Bullet to make smoothies in the mornings, but those were not required. His free website (precisionnutrition.com) has lots of good articles and information. Try searching there to get beyond your plateau!

Try myfitnessplan.com for counting calories. It's very intuitive and easy to use. I liked its interface much better than WW or sparkpeople.

Good luck!

Checking out the cookbook/free site now...the eating sounds good, I just hope it's not super duper involved. I struggle with time right now being a mom, working and going to school! ack!

solidgold 08-10-2011 07:13 PM

I understand time management... Good luck! Let me know if you try the "plan".

SpaghettiHead 08-11-2011 12:18 PM

I did subscribe to get the 5 video emails...and I just got the supplement one, so I am going to get those this week. Did you have to order this stuff, or were you able to find it at your local healthfood stores?

Thanks!!

solidgold 08-11-2011 05:28 PM

I got the multi, the omega 3, the greens +, and the protein powder from my local Vitamin Shoppe. Be warned--the vegan protein powder does not taste nearly as good as the protein powder made with whey.

SpaghettiHead 08-16-2011 03:38 PM

I couldn't find the multi or the greens locally, so I've ordered them online.
the fish oil...disgusting.

I couldn't find the vegan powder either....(can't remember which was vegan now...) ended up getting the only one that Vitamin Shoppe had...the muscle milk light. It's not bad at all.

solidgold 08-18-2011 07:19 PM

I have a hard time getting the multi down in the morning! I need to take it with juice or some liquid with a taste to cover up the vitamin. Urgh.

Eilonwy 08-24-2011 09:35 AM

I thought part of the point of a low-carb diet is to decrease caloric intake by increasing satiety.

kathymack 08-24-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eilonwy (Post 1749662)
I thought part of the point of a low-carb diet is to decrease caloric intake by increasing satiety.

I've done low carb for about 14 years. Never heard this. When I first started and was really strict (under 30 carbs,) I ate A LOT of fat. It had to be calories. Even as I got past the point of wanting to loose weight and upped my carbs to a maintenance level (around 50 carbs), I ate A LOT of fat. Now, I'm not as good, so I'm a little more careful about the fat.

When I was being really good with the carbs and eating a lot of fat, my cholesterol was good (140.) It's still good, but not THAT low.

solidgold 08-24-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Eilonwy (Post 1749662)
I thought part of the point of a low-carb diet is to decrease caloric intake by increasing satiety.

I think that with a low-carb diet you are supposed to eat more non-starchy vegetables to fill you up, which have fewer calories than carbs. So the end result is that you decrease your caloric intake and you are satiated.

SpaghettiHead 08-24-2011 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kathymack (Post 1749895)
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Originally Posted by Eilonwy (Post 1749662)
I thought part of the point of a low-carb diet is to decrease caloric intake by increasing satiety.

I've done low carb for about 14 years. Never heard this. When I first started and was really strict (under 30 carbs,) I ate A LOT of fat. It had to be calories. Even as I got past the point of wanting to loose weight and upped my carbs to a maintenance level (around 50 carbs), I ate A LOT of fat. Now, I'm not as good, so I'm a little more careful about the fat.

When I was being really good with the carbs and eating a lot of fat, my cholesterol was good (140.) It's still good, but not THAT low.

This is what I always think about low carb. I end up eating a lot of healthy fats....which =more calories, right. ????

kathymack 08-25-2011 04:55 AM

It's not just healthy fats, it's lots of animal protein--bacon, prime rib, etc.

ShrekLover 08-25-2011 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SpaghettiHead (Post 1737453)
Thank you guys!Both of your posts were very helpful!
Midgi: I will def check into myplate to get good ideas of foods/portions...I think portions sometimes get the better of me!! Thank you!

Solidgold: did you invest in the entire program? ($150)? That seems like a lot of money...but the way you describe the eating is exactly what I'm doing now...except I only maintain, not lose...hence the question about counting calories too...need something to get the ball rolling.

I'm interested in this...just don't know if buying the entire schpeel is necessary???

It's on sale until the 31st (of course that might be a gimmick and it's always on sale), but it's now $97 plus $8 for shipping which doesn't seem bad at all.

SpaghettiHead 08-25-2011 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kathymack (Post 1750478)
It's not just healthy fats, it's lots of animal protein--bacon, prime rib, etc.

True. I'm not a big "meat" eater though, so I think I tend to choke down as much as I can tolerate, and rely more heavily on stuff like avacado and olive oil, etc. I wish I liked it more.


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Originally Posted by sdc (Post 1750640)
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Originally Posted by SpaghettiHead (Post 1737453)
Thank you guys!Both of your posts were very helpful!
Midgi: I will def check into myplate to get good ideas of foods/portions...I think portions sometimes get the better of me!! Thank you!

Solidgold: did you invest in the entire program? ($150)? That seems like a lot of money...but the way you describe the eating is exactly what I'm doing now...except I only maintain, not lose...hence the question about counting calories too...need something to get the ball rolling.

I'm interested in this...just don't know if buying the entire schpeel is necessary???

It's on sale until the 31st (of course that might be a gimmick and it's always on sale), but it's now $97 plus $8 for shipping which doesn't seem bad at all.

Thanks for the heads up SDC!


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