Newbie - Need some Help please

Hello there,
About a month ago I decided I wanted to start growing my hair out (maybe shoulder length,) and once I made that decision I started researching hair care. To be honest, the more research I did the more I became confused. lol It was a little overwelming for me.

Judging by the "find your hair type" page, it seems that I'm a blend between 3b and 3c. These two pics are perfect examples of what my hair kinda looks like. The curls towards the front are very tight (corkscrew, tube-like) and the curls on the back of my head are a little looser, but not much.
Rachel True
Julianna Margulies

So, my real problem and reason for this post, is that I have no clue what kind of shampoo, conditioner, leave in conditioner I should be using. My hair is only about 4 inches long, but is so tightly curly it looks like a inch long. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Hi Jyson...welcome to the club! Ha, well as a lot of folks will tell you, there are lots of products out there that you must just try for yourself because not everything works for everyone even if you're not the same hair "type". I have type "4" hair but have definitely used some products that are recommended for less curly/kinky types and they've turned out great. I would recommend reading up on the curly gurl routine about products that are overall better for your hair. But, that's not feasible or even best for everyone so with that being said, I'll give you some of my favorites:

Shampoo: Kinky Curly Come Clean or more readily available is Yes to Carrots
Conditioner: I like the Yes to Carrots conditioner as well as Tresemme Naturals and Flawless Curls

I also love Kinky Curly Knot Today as a leave in conditioner and it smells so damn good.

I hope this gets you started. Update us on your progress!
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Hi Jyson...welcome to the club! Ha, well as a lot of folks will tell you, there are lots of products out there that you must just try for yourself because not everything works for everyone even if you're not the same hair "type". I have type "4" hair but have definitely used some products that are recommended for less curly/kinky types and they've turned out great. I would recommend reading up on the curly gurl routine about products that are overall better for your hair. But, that's not feasible or even best for everyone so with that being said, I'll give you some of my favorites:

Shampoo: Kinky Curly Come Clean or more readily available is Yes to Carrots
Conditioner: I like the Yes to Carrots conditioner as well as Tresemme Naturals and Flawless Curls

I also love Kinky Curly Knot Today as a leave in conditioner and it smells so damn good.

I hope this gets you started. Update us on your progress!
Originally Posted by ChewyCaramello62
Thankyou for the suggestions! I think I'll give kinky curly knot today a try. I was also considering His Mix (Mixed chicks,) perhaps I'll get sample sizes of both and see what works.

That's one of the overwelming factors for me is that some products don't work the same for everyone. Growing up my mom hated my hair, she always kept it SHORT and told me that my hair is just naturally fizzy. But thankyfully now I know better, and I want to grow it out for the first time.

I'm starting to keep little mental notes on what works with my hair and what doesn't.
Just thought I would take a pic of my hair. Now that I've looked at more photos I'm not sure what type my hair is for sure. I know it's atleast a 3b, but whatev's I'm beginning to realize it doesn't matter since no two heads of hair are alike.

- Jason
I would try multiple products but go cheap for now. Each person is unique and you will have to find the right combination of products and hair care routine that your hair requires at each length.

I believe it depends on diet and what goes into the body too. Drink lots of water.

You might find it necessary to wash everyday at that length until you reach a point when you have great 2nd day and even 3rd day hair with no washing or styling.

There's no silver bullet that works for everyone for instance currently my hair is loving silicones but I might hit a peak next month where I look like crap using the products that work now.
Also, based on your picture and as it grows longer (should you want to maintain those tight curls) you might have to get it styled weekly and just maintain good sleeping routine as not to destroy the overall look.

I'm sure it's crazy if any of those curls loosened up you would either have to restyle that one or rewash and restyle everything.

My curls are natural meaning I don't have to get them pampered by a stylist so I can wake up and go with any curl pattern that's there for the day. But if you find a good stylist who's patient to work with you then stick with them and always remember to tip.
Also, you have to decide if you want to be natural or natural and organic. The best advice I can give in terms of shampoo and conditioner is only use shampoo when you need to wash out dirt or old sticky product. Otherwise use moisturizing conditioner only and shampoo only once a month or less.

Personally I use 3 conditioners each time I wet my hair and then a leave in conditioner before I put gel in.


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Also, based on your picture and as it grows longer (should you want to maintain those tight curls) you might have to get it styled weekly and just maintain good sleeping routine as not to destroy the overall look.

I'm sure it's crazy if any of those curls loosened up you would either have to restyle that one or rewash and restyle everything.

My curls are natural meaning I don't have to get them pampered by a stylist so I can wake up and go with any curl pattern that's there for the day. But if you find a good stylist who's patient to work with you then stick with them and always remember to tip.
Originally Posted by PRINCETON
Those are my natural curls. I rinse my hair out everyday I don't shampoo, that's just how they look. They're looser when wet but once my hair dries (which takes forever) they tighten right back up. I've never gotten my hair styled before, I've always kept my hair super short until now.
- Jason
I have a stylist who braids my hair but that's about it and I only let her touch it.

You should decide how long you want to grow it and that will determine how much energy you put into maintaining. You might find it useful to visit a curly hair specialist who knows your type and can help you transition with styles as it grows.


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Also, pay attention to the level of alcohol in your products cause as the alcohol dries it can cause the moisture to leave with it and make the curls seem crazy tight.

You want to focus on getting the tightness naturally without use of alcohols cause you want your curls to remain healthy within the strand and not just look good.


Princeton Brooke
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I have a stylist who braids my hair but that's about it and I only let her touch it.

You should decide how long you want to grow it and that will determine how much energy you put into maintaining. You might find it useful to visit a curly hair specialist who knows your type and can help you transition with styles as it grows.


Princeton Brooke
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Originally Posted by PRINCETON
I'm thinking shoulder lenght, but that might change depending on how my hair looks throughout the transition. I'll look around for a stylist, it won't be easy though (I live in a rural area.) Thankyou for the tips!!!
- Jason
Unfortunately living in a Karst topography area (limestone & sinkhole country) means hard water. I have tried washing water only. It usually leaves the hair hard and crunchy. Unfortunately, alcohols are the least horrible option. I cannot do the cones because they dry the hair, and so of course do the sulfates.

So, I do not shampoo (even Redkin has 'fates!). I want to check out the Sallies where I live, and see what they have, but I still have the conditioner (Tresemme Naturals and it works well) I finally found, so I don't think I will be going any time soon. However, with the weather getting warmer and more humid, my hair seems to be curling better, so I am not so concerned with the conditioning.

I find that a combination of olive oil+grape seed oil+sesame seed oil makes a great deep conditioner. I make my own by doing equal parts of those three things. I would like to add more expensive oils, but I think I must leave it as is until I can afford them. I decided to go the dyi route for deep conditioner because the deep conditioners I find at the stores all have alcohol in them.

One of the things I love about having curly hair is that I feel sexy in it. I can't explain the why of it exactly, but I think it is partially having the confidence to go natural in an area where men with medium to longish curly hair are definitely the minority. People, especially women (which is the great part), seem to like my look (hair medium length paired with full beard growing in- mixed ethnicity and don't seem to have heavy beard). There were a few other guys at work with medium hair but two were straight-haired which all things being equal actually put them at a disadvantage with medium length hair as per the feedback they seem to have gotten from people. As long as I keep mine off my face, it seems to be all right. The other guy who had curly hair didn't want to be bothered with looking kempt and came in today with a faux-hawk. The guys who cut their hair short seem to have been given an over-emphasized "Very nice ___!" reaction by human resources. Human resources in the place where I work is somewhat akin to Catbert, so I really don't care (my brother got married and I asked for a weekend off for a Friday and Saturday off for the wedding and I only got put on the schedule for two days that week- I could have worked the rest of the week before that and I worked the Sunday following the wedding, it was a kind of a "You won't do that again now will you" sort of treatment) what she says as long as I have a job.

Any way, hope everyone is having a good night/day.

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