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Thanks for posting Yr results... This is really interesting & helpful
I bought new Products [PICS]
Today I acquired these conditioners to replace all the ones I threw away.

## TRESemmé Naturals $5 Target

## Giovanni Smooth as Silk Deep Moisture $13 TJMaxx



Both are cone-free and they appear to be about 99% all natural with certified organic ingredients.

I heard great reviews on how Giovanni smells like its formulated for men. I will update you all with my findings.

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Last edited by PRINCETON; 06-03-2011 at 06:19 PM.
Thanks for posting Yr results... This is really interesting & helpful
Originally Posted by fonki
I enjoy it. Thanks!


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KCCC & COWASH FROM HELL

They need to include instructions on that Kinky Curly Curling Custard KCCC on how to remove it from the hair.

I was in the shower with soaking wet hair and bucket loads of conditioner trying to detangle with just my fingers.

After about 1 hours I just turned the water off and stood in the mirror. The KCCC is more like glue than a gel. No wonder it's known to defrizz cause it glues your hair together. I only used my fingers to separate sections and finger from tip up to my roots.

I lost so much hair you would've thought I was doing a big chop BC!!

The bad part is KCCC is a great product. Makes the curls look phenomenal but the rinsing out is not what's up. They need to supply a removal product. My suggestion is wet the hair and put on a plastic cap for about 2 hours and let the product dissolve somehow.


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Tonight I CoWashed with the 2 conditioners I bought today.

## My first use of Giovanni is not spectacular. The conditioner smells like orange hand cleaner you find at an auto mechanic shop sink. The consistency is not as thick as I would have liked for that price. I think it has proteins because I it turns white like toothpaste after a while of detangling with a wide tooth comb.

## TRESemmé Naturals is THE BOMB =) I was completely satisfied with the product performance and the smell is unbelievable. If they wanted to charge $30 for that conditioner instead of $5 they would have every right and I'd gladly pay. I'm looking forward to my next cowash because that product made it an experience and not just a task. If you love extremely thick and creamy conditioner then look no further. You would think they were paying me to write this but I assure you of every word I said about this product.

I'm always buying new conditioners so I can't say I won't look beyond this one but I know I can always trust it especially since it is cone-free.

Now I just need to see if TRESemmé has a cone-free leave-in conditioner that's hydrating and smells just like the naturals conditioner.


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Last edited by PRINCETON; 06-04-2011 at 12:31 AM.
OVERALL UPDATE

Things I'm still questioning or trying to understand are:

1. What is a denman brush and where can I buy one??

2. I'm uncomfortable with having my hair come forward. I want to pull some hair into the front but I don't know it that would give me "man bangs" LOL The whole purpose in my hair experiment was to create hairstyles the guys can wear that are masculine and sexy at every length as it grows from bald head, medium, long, and ridiculously long.

3. I want to give up on all gels and holding products. I want the curls to be free flowing and soft to the touch especially since so many people ask to touch my hair. I want them to say that it is soft and not that it is crunchy.

4. How much shedding or breakage is normal? Does everyone experience some kind of breakage when detangling? Does anybody else get frustrated and even mad when they cowash and get hair in the comb or on the hands?

5. I didn't expect my hair to grow this fast so is it more effective to just condition as a separate process from showering?

6. Where can I find a good leave-in that's cone-free?? Do I have to go to specialty hair stores for this?

7. I have heard of the "a-cone" and I don't ever want to use that but why have some people decided that it was am OK CONE yet I get the vibe that they feel they compromised in choosing to use it in the first place.

There's a lot I want to know but I'll end this post right here

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Next Day Hair [PIC]

That TRESemmé did a good job as a cross-functional conditioner. I cowashed and used it as a leave-in.




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Last edited by PRINCETON; 06-04-2011 at 12:44 PM.
What is the deal with the Denman brushes?

Here's a list of online vendors (assuming Yr in the US) http://www.google.com/m/products?sou...&his=&maction=
Princeton,
You got to take it light on the curling custard. I will look for the youtube video on how much to apply, that is how I learned. A little goes a long way. I will post video as soon as I find.
3A, Protein Senitive, Low Porosity,
Med-Course
Wash: Suave Naturals Conds (excluding Coconut), CVSB
Rinse out/Leave In: GVP Cond. Balm, KCKT,
Style: Naturelle Gel(winter HG), KCCC (summer HG), Flaxseed gel
SOTC: JCNS
Love your hair: Love yourself!
Hi Princeton,

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...88355586&hl=en#

This video helped me with amount of kccc to use. Hope it helps.
3A, Protein Senitive, Low Porosity,
Med-Course
Wash: Suave Naturals Conds (excluding Coconut), CVSB
Rinse out/Leave In: GVP Cond. Balm, KCKT,
Style: Naturelle Gel(winter HG), KCCC (summer HG), Flaxseed gel
SOTC: JCNS
Love your hair: Love yourself!
@Goin'Grey

Nice vid. I'll retry because it does make the curls look real good. I'm in that migration period of used to like crunchy but now loving super soft. I'll use a much smaller amount than what she used in the vid and this time make sure to rinse out and end of day.


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@FONKI

Thanks. I didnt know It was an actual brand and also good to know they don't cost a fortune.


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EASIER DETANGLING WITH CONE-FREE CONDITIONER

Going cone-free requires finding a smooth way to detangle because the silicones that were present in the coney conditioners is no longer being used. The glycerin and silicone combo used to help detangle but now I find cone-free conditioners are not as slippery.

Today I found a method that works for me.

(1) Wet my hair completely and then I use my first conditioner (Giovanni) as my scalp agitator. This conditioner is great for this step because it offers light suds.

(2) Load my second conditioner (TRESemmé) onto the rest of my hair and gently massage as if shampooing.

(3) Put my head under the shower and then start to detangle with wide tooth comb. The rinse helps move the conditioner down the hair shaft and provides the slip needed for easy detangling.

(4) After detangled put conditioner back in and let sit in the hair while I shower my body. Rinse off my hair after I rinse off the body wash.


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Hi

I heard some people use 100% aloe gel to reduce crunchiness of KCCC or any other strong hold gels.

Hope this helps next time

Cheers
@FONKI I've never tried aloe gel but will look into it. Thanks.


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Today I started my "No Combing" experiment. Absolutely no combing even during detangling. I want to see if I retain length and more curl pattern.


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PIC & QUICK UPDATE



The frizz can be minimized by rubbing and raking down the hair with watered down product which helps it to adhere to adjacent clumps.

I will describe my "Puddle and Ribbon" method for achieving tightly detangled, flawless depth and ultra defined curls.

NO-COMBING is the secret of the naturally curly trade. I've noticed less topical frizz by eliminating detangling of my hair by comb. Use the ribboning effect I mention below to detangle while adding product.

Ive also implemented NO-SCRUNCH into my routine. I will only scrunch after my hair is completely dry and only on second or third day. Scrunching gives me results that I only want when trying to stretch a day between washes.

1) Never detangle in shower with comb or minimize down to once a month when using comb on wet conditioned hair. Curls like to be free to wrap around and cup adjacent curls. The constant detangling only reverses any work done to promote noticeably healthy curl patterns.

2) Never use any device, fabric, or cloth of any type to dry. Get up early enough to cowash hair so it can air dry in time.

I have a specific method for cowashing but that's for another day.

3) Style hair immediately after cowashing while its still dripping wet and continue to add a little water with hands between adding styling products. The products soak up the water and if you don't add more water then you will invite topical frizz. Also, adding water helps distribute the product.

4) 1st stying product to add is conditioner again. I prefer a deep moisturizing conditioner because I use protein conditioner as my cowash product and also because I add protein again later with gel. The protein rebuilds the hair and the moisture helps keep it from drying out. I also have another step for oiling scalp with coconut oil so the conditioners don't settle and dry on the scalp which can add to hair loss.

Begin to apply conditioner by puddling it in your hand and then reaching into the hair and grabbing hair at the curl bed (scalp). With a semi-tight hold start to coat the clumped hair with conditioner as you pull hand back out toward tip of hair strands. This can be done swiftly after you get the hang of it. Focus on sides and use extra product on back of head and even more on the hair region 3 inches above neck line.

5) The 2nd product is your curl enhancer. I'm currently digging the Kinky Curly Curling Custard KCCC so I add small amount similar to the previous step. This will coat the conditioner while sealing it into the hair. I don't scrunch! The tight pulling from root to tip will curl the hair similar to ribboning with ribbon and scissors.

6) Final product is protein gel. Protein gel is excellent for cone-free regiments. By going cone-free you allow the protein to penetrate instead of immediately caking up as white lumpy buildup that sits on top of the silicones. I apply the protein gel similar to the previous methods of "puddling and ribboning" this time the harder gel will seal in the curl enhancer and the conditioner.

7) AIR DRY ONLY NO EXCEPTIONS



The removal of silicones or being cone-free is definitely starting to show results. My hair looks shiny and healthy. The main benefit is my hair is not unnecessarily thick and moisture of any kind now works for me (and not unpredictably) as it seems to soak into the hair and not just sit on top.





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Last edited by PRINCETON; 06-21-2011 at 06:03 PM.
PIC UPDATE after Raining



Yesterday I was jogging and got caught in the pouring rain for 15 minutes. Non-stop pouring heavy rain!!!

I found an article on discovery.com that said rain water is very beneficial to hair especially for people who have hard water running in their house.

I also heard that its only a concern to not use rain water on hair for conditioning or shampooing if you live in an area where the rainwater turns into acid as it falls toward the ground. That's horrible and I think cowashing your hair should be the last thing on a persons mind if they have acid falling onto them.

Anyhow, turns out rain water is safe for hair and body but you have to detoxify it if you plan on drinking it. Rain water is not safe to drink.

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#HAIRCONFESSION

Someone walked up to me and said "wow your hair looks so good" and I said thanks.

But I need to confess that since I started this thread topic a month ago I have not used shampoo at all since then. I just use conditioner only method. I use 2 types of conditioner but the one I use in the shower to scrub my scalp and to cowash my curls is the Giovanni Deep Hydrating with Silk Protein which I think acts as a tiny poo cause it yields a ton of suds. I then rinse completely out and use a second conditioner as my styling leave-in.

Anyhow, I think I will continue to just use this method and I hope to gain more compliments. Seems like someone tells me how healthy my curls look on a daily basis.


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I'm about to do my first watered down shampoo wash since I first committed to conditioner only a month ago.

I think I might have slight buildup since not shampooing but only conditioning cone-free in a months time

I will use (1 part) Crabtree & Evelyn shampoo with (10 parts) water lol

These are the ingredients for shampoo. Is this safe if I water it down just to use on my scalp?


And these are ingredients for Crabtree & Evelyn LaSource conditioner La Source. I'm thinking I will start using the conditioner cause it doesn't have cones. Any thoughts???



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