I need some curl talk...

I've been on the cg method for about 3 months and my hair used to look nice when i first stared now it's just crappy. It's frizzy and totally out of control. I use L'oreal Eversleek products which are supposedly free of all slilicones, parabens, and sulfates but now I'm not so sure. I'm thinking about running back to my straightner. Someone please give me some advice, I need it.
Maybe try some new products?? Have you been in the pool recently and gotten your hair wet, I know that it always makes my hair look bad after all the chemicals in the pool. I will still straighten my hair like once a month. My scalp gets really itchy from the products and stuff and it's a nice break from curly hair to go straight.
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Maybe try some new products?? Have you been in the pool recently and gotten your hair wet, I know that it always makes my hair look bad after all the chemicals in the pool. I will still straighten my hair like once a month. My scalp gets really itchy from the products and stuff and it's a nice break from curly hair to go straight.
Originally Posted by KurlyPrincess
Thanks, I really appreciate it
I've been on the cg method for about 3 months and my hair used to look nice when i first stared now it's just crappy. It's frizzy and totally out of control. I use L'oreal Eversleek products which are supposedly free of all slilicones, parabens, and sulfates but now I'm not so sure. I'm thinking about running back to my straightner. Someone please give me some advice, I need it.
Originally Posted by curlynerd17
I used the eversleek condish and loved it.......................Until, my hair turned into frizzy city! So I posted the ingredients and someone pointed out a wax that wasn't cg. I checked my hair and sure enough I had build up. So I did a cone free shampoo and started over.

HTH
2c w/ some 3a on the ends
Length - just below shoulders when wavy
texture - under layer fine, everything else medium
According to the articles of how to determen these:
Porosity- low
Density - medium

shampoo - clear scalp & hair therapy
rinse out - clear scalp & hair therapy
leave in - whatever rinse out I'm using at the time
gel - kccc
dt - aussie 3 min miracle

experimenting and open to suggestions!
I've been on the cg method for about 3 months and my hair used to look nice when i first stared now it's just crappy. It's frizzy and totally out of control. I use L'oreal Eversleek products which are supposedly free of all slilicones, parabens, and sulfates but now I'm not so sure. I'm thinking about running back to my straightner. Someone please give me some advice, I need it.
Originally Posted by curlynerd17
I used the eversleek condish and loved it.......................Until, my hair turned into frizzy city! So I posted the ingredients and someone pointed out a wax that wasn't cg. I checked my hair and sure enough I had build up. So I did a cone free shampoo and started over.

HTH
Originally Posted by infojunky
So what products do you use now?
I use vo5 vanilla mint tea for my co-wash(all the vo5's are cg). TRESemme naturals aloe vera & avocado for rinse out & leave in. Herbal essences totally twisted gel for a little hold. For a dt I use Shea moisture deep treatment masque.
2c w/ some 3a on the ends
Length - just below shoulders when wavy
texture - under layer fine, everything else medium
According to the articles of how to determen these:
Porosity- low
Density - medium

shampoo - clear scalp & hair therapy
rinse out - clear scalp & hair therapy
leave in - whatever rinse out I'm using at the time
gel - kccc
dt - aussie 3 min miracle

experimenting and open to suggestions!
I would highly reccomend just trying some new products! Our hair can be very tempermental and it knows what it likes..and doesn't like hah Curly hair surely has a mind of it's own, and it takes trial and error to find your hair's "god send product" heh :P What I use is listed in my signature, they're all great and cheap!
Ashleigh Elizabeth
CG Since 7/2/2011
In Between 2c & 3a

CO WASH- Suave Naturals
CONDISH- Sally's Generic value products conditioning balm
LEAVE IN- KCKT
STYLE- Ice Queen method
GELS- LA Looks Absolute styling sport // IC hair polisher styling gel with sparkle lites
HG- KCC = AMAZING! My secret weapon!
FINISH- Plop // Pixiecurl diffuser method (on occasion)

Learning To Embrace My Curls!
I use vo5 vanilla mint tea for my co-wash(all the vo5's are cg). TRESemme naturals aloe vera & avocado for rinse out & leave in. Herbal essences totally twisted gel for a little hold. For a dt I use Shea moisture deep treatment masque.
Originally Posted by infojunky
I'll try out vo5, but I can't use the tresemme because I'm allergic to avocado
I use vo5 vanilla mint tea for my co-wash(all the vo5's are cg). TRESemme naturals aloe vera & avocado for rinse out & leave in. Herbal essences totally twisted gel for a little hold. For a dt I use Shea moisture deep treatment masque.
Originally Posted by infojunky
I'll try out vo5, but I can't use the tresemme because I'm allergic to avocado
Originally Posted by curlynerd17
I looked at vo5 ingredients and I found silicone (cetrimonium chloride) :/
Hmmmmm. I had read this and thought that it wasn't a silicone. Would you mind reading it and letting me know? Thanks!



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Is cetrimonium chloride a silicone? If not, what is it and what is its purpose in my hair-care product? When this ingredient appears on a label with amodimethicone and trideceth-12, does this mean the amodimethicone is now water soluble?


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Q: Is cetrimonium chloride a silicone? If not, what is it and what is its purpose in my hair-care product? When this ingredient appears on a label with amodimethicone and trideceth-12, does this mean the amodimethicone is now water soluble?

A: This question comes up frequently, because something about that name seems similar to some of the names seen for different silicones. The actual chemical name of this ingredient is cetyl (hexadecyl, more properly) trimethyl-ammonium chloride (CTAC). It is definitely not a silicone or silicone derivative. It is a quaternized ammonium molecule (frequently abbreviated as quat), and it has a single positive charge at the head group. CTAC belongs to a family of molecules known as cationic surfactants, which can be used as emulsifying or conditioning agents. Some other commonly used molecules in this group are cetrimonium bromide (CTAB), behentrimonium chloride, and quaternium-15.

Their conditioning capabilities are due to electrostatic attraction between the positively-charged head group of the cationic surfactant and negative charges that occur along the surface of hair strands. This electrostatic attraction causes cationic surfactant molecules to deposit themselves onto the cuticle of the hair, which helps create a smoother surface and also reduces static-induced flyaway hair that can occur in cold, dry weather.

As emulsifying agents, cationic surfactants can be used to aid the formulator in getting many different types of hydrophobic (water fearing) oils to go into solution. They are frequently used in mixtures with a nonionic surfactant. These mixtures can form large micelles, or emulsion droplets. Oil-in-water micelles are clusters of molecules with an oily center or core, made up of the non-polar tails of the surfactants, surrounded by an outer shell formed by the polar portion of the molecule. The polar portion of the shell is water soluble, and the interior of the micelle can encapsulate a water-insoluble oil, such as silicone. This complex particle can then be dispersed into an aqueous solution, such as a hair conditioner or shampoo formula. (There are also micelles known as water-in-oil micelles, where the polar groups are in the interior portion of the micelle, and the oil soluble portions are on the exterior of the micelle.)

A common example of such a mixture is cetrimonium chloride, trideceth-12 (the nonionic surfactant), and amodimethicone. The two surfactants surround the amodimethicone, which is water insoluble. The resultant aggregate of all three components is dispersible in water, due to the hydrophilic nature of the micelle shell. However, it should be noted that this mixture is dispersible in water for the purposes of ease of manufacture of the shampoo or conditioner. The mixture does not remain intact during product use, and it should not be inferred that having those three components in a formula renders the amodimethicone water soluble once it is applied to the hair.

Once the actual product is applied to wet hair in the shower, the aggregate is broken up and each component does what it would ordinarily do. The nonionic surfactant is washed away when the hair is rinsed; the positively-charged amodimethicone and the cationic surfactant are each deposited (separately) onto the surface of the hair. The amodimethicone is left alone, and is thus in its water insoluble state, and it dries to form a film, which imparts sheen and silkiness to the hair. Despite the fact that it is water insoluble, amodimethicone has been found to resist the formation of build up, and most users have reported excellent results with products containing amodimethicone, even if they use a shampoo-free regimen.
2c w/ some 3a on the ends
Length - just below shoulders when wavy
texture - under layer fine, everything else medium
According to the articles of how to determen these:
Porosity- low
Density - medium

shampoo - clear scalp & hair therapy
rinse out - clear scalp & hair therapy
leave in - whatever rinse out I'm using at the time
gel - kccc
dt - aussie 3 min miracle

experimenting and open to suggestions!
Okay, so I'm wrong it's not a silicone which is great and I will look into vo5, but where did you get all that information? And could I use that as my daily conditioner and my leave in? Thanks for all your help
I have been wrong about ingredients before too. Lol! If you go to naturallycurly.com on the computer (doesn't have this in the app) at the top of the page there is a place to search the web site. I just typed the ingredient in and it brought up links about it. There is a Product button below the search, they have all kinds of products listed with the ingredients and they have symbols to that tell you if they have silicones and other stuff.

You can use vo5 for a co-wash, rinse out, and leave in. Just play with it and have fun. If you feel like you need more moisture try another condish for the rinse out or leave in or both. It's all about figuring out what your hair likes.

HTH!!!
2c w/ some 3a on the ends
Length - just below shoulders when wavy
texture - under layer fine, everything else medium
According to the articles of how to determen these:
Porosity- low
Density - medium

shampoo - clear scalp & hair therapy
rinse out - clear scalp & hair therapy
leave in - whatever rinse out I'm using at the time
gel - kccc
dt - aussie 3 min miracle

experimenting and open to suggestions!
Thanks again for all your advice, I've been searching for good cg safe drugstore products for a while. I'm gonna try out suave naturals and vo5 .
You're very welcome! I like cheap drug store products that work! LOL!

Good luck!
2c w/ some 3a on the ends
Length - just below shoulders when wavy
texture - under layer fine, everything else medium
According to the articles of how to determen these:
Porosity- low
Density - medium

shampoo - clear scalp & hair therapy
rinse out - clear scalp & hair therapy
leave in - whatever rinse out I'm using at the time
gel - kccc
dt - aussie 3 min miracle

experimenting and open to suggestions!
In addition to changing your products you may also want to try getting a trim if you have split ends. It really helps to get rid of frizz. But make sure you go somewhere where they know how to cut curly hair! (I suggest going to a stylist that practices the "devacut" method. I've heard really good things about it, but have yet to try it). They also have some other good articles on this website about different methods to get rid of frizz. I don't have the links though. Hope that helps even though you were looking for information on products.

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