i'm a noob i have 4b hair i am also a guy.

is shea moisture smoothie good for a hair type like mine? i need a good hair care regimen or something(my hair is dry and fragile and it breaks when i put my pick through it, i need a moisturizer) i have a satin durag and a satin pillowcase i currently use generic tea tree oil shampoo i have no conditioners i use the waterbased moisturizer organic root stimulator olive oil ( i think this causes buildup in my hair and makes it even more dry) (i have a plastic and metal pick, do i need a wide tooth comb?) basically what i'm asking for you is to help me on my journey to having nice good hair, i hope you see this thanks.
First you shouldn't be putting a pick through dry hair.

Second find out your hair properties by going to the main site.

Third once you found your hair properties start reading through articles on the main site about going natural with type 4 hair.

Finally then go and buy some products to experiment.
is shea moisture smoothie good for a hair type like mine? i need a good hair care regimen or something(my hair is dry and fragile and it breaks when i put my pick through it, i need a moisturizer) i have a satin durag and a satin pillowcase i currently use generic tea tree oil shampoo i have no conditioners i use the waterbased moisturizer organic root stimulator olive oil ( i think this causes buildup in my hair and makes it even more dry) (i have a plastic and metal pick, do i need a wide tooth comb?) basically what i'm asking for you is to help me on my journey to having nice good hair, i hope you see this thanks.
Originally Posted by idkmyfro
Hi Shea Moisture products are all good however the product you're asking about is a styler and won't solve your dryness problem. Before you go buying products do what Blueblood suggested and find out your hair properties. It's very important to know this otherwise you might be buying products that mess up your hair or they just plain do nothing. You don't want to be wasting money on a bunch of products.

Does your shampoo have sulfates? Sulfate shampoos can be very harsh on the hair. They actually strip every thing from the hair and scalp including your natural oils. This can cause your hair to become very dry and eventually lead to breakage. Now you're shampooing without conditioning which means you're basically stripping your hair of everything but you aren't adding anything back. You understand now why your hair is so dry? Your hair is in the 4s you need all the moisture you can get.

The most important thing for curlies is moisture but for the 4's this need is crucial. Check the ingredients on the bottle of any shampoo you buy for any ingredient with the word sulfate in it. Go for non-sulfate shampoos if available but if they aren't you can dilute your shampoo with water. Conditioner is your friend. You can even cowash which is washing your hair using conditoners. A lot of people do this to avoid the stripping abilities of shampoos. There are also cleansing conditioners on the market now which are specifically for cleansing without stripping. You can avoid getting a leave-in conditioner/moisturizer by leaving a bit of your rinse conditioner in your hair. Then take a little bit of oil the size of a coin (I love olive oil or castor oil for this) and rub it though your hair. If you want you can then use a butter (shea butter is rather good). It depends on your hair whether it can take all of that or it can only take up to the oil. Then you comb.

Never comb your hair dry. I know it's tempting to do but it leads to major breakage. Instead wet your hair in the bath and add conditioner. That's the time to comb and style it. On days that it looks a bit dry use a spray bottle with half water and half conditioner and spray it enough to dampen the hair. Remember water is the ultimate mositurizer.

Possible routine:
1. Wash with non-sulfate shampoo or cowash
2. Apply conditioner (This is also when you detangle if you have enough hair). Leave 'til end of bath then rinse only around 70% out. Squeeze out excess water out or use a t-shirt.
3. Apply oil / butter or both.
4. Apply styling product.
5. Stroll out of bathroom like a BOSS Try not to touch hair until fully dry.

Some videos you might find useful:

Dan E Blu reviews SheaMoisture Coconut & Hibiscus Curl Enhancing Smoothie on 4b hair:
{29} REVIEW: Shea Moisture Curl Enhancing Smoothie on 4B Hair - YouTube

Glumfun explains the combing process in this video: Are you suppose to comb kinky HAIR?!?!? - YouTube

MissCinnamonCake demonstrates how to moisturize and seal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myl864x8fjw

Cheap Conditioners I know (always a nice place to start):

VO5
Inecto Pure Coconut Moisture Infusing Conditioner
Sauve Naturals
Tresumme Naturals

Hope I was able to help. Maybe someone here can add anything I missed.
Curl type: 3C/4A
Strand thickness: Fine/Medium
Porosity: low to medium to high (depends on where on my head)
Density: medium
Leave in product: Paul Mitchell The Conditioner
Co-wash : Mizani True Textures Cleansing Cream
Conditioner: still trying stuff. Atm: DnL Au Naturale Knot-out Conditioner
DC: Anything at hand. Suggestions?
PT: Hair Mayonaise
Sealant: Olive oil only or Raw Shea Butter mixture
Gel: Curls Unleashed Set it off Curls Boosting Jelly

Last edited by asagi; 01-17-2014 at 07:17 PM.
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 76
My hair is mainly 4b as well. I don't know very much about how men style their hair , however, I can tell you about the products I use for my hair.

I use the yellow #10 hold EcoStyler gel to lay down my edges. I just dab the gel around my hairline and nape area, and slick it down with a toothbrush (you can just buy a soft, cheap toothbrush and use it exclusively for your hair).

I wash my hair with SheaMoisture shampoo, the one that comes in an orange container that is for thick, curly hair. I've also used the moisture retention one for dry, damaged hair. Both work great for me and leave my hair feeling moisturized. SheaMoisture Shampoo is $10, but I only wash my hair weekly and don't use as much shampoo as I do conditioner so it runs out very slowly. I condition my hair with V05 Moisture Milks. It is very cheap (you can get it from Walmart or the Dollar Store) but moisturizes my hair so well and has a lot of slip so it is perfect for detangling.

I use Smooth n' Hold Pudding to define my curls. I put 4 braids in my hair (with the pudding and coconut oil applied to each braid) to stretch my hair out just enough to put in a bun or ponytail the next day. If your hair isn't long enough to braid, though, then do a wash n' go. Apply Smooth n' Hold pudding to your hair to define the curls and a bit of Ecostyler gel (not a lot) to hold the curls, then let airdry.

I use S-Curl Activator to refresh my buns/ponytails. You could use it on your wash n' go once the curls get frizzy. To simply refresh and/or moisturize your curls, I suggest SheaMoisture Hold n' Shine moisture mist. It moisturizes just like water but doesn't give the frizzy loss of curl definition after-effect that water does. I wash my hair when it feels dirty, which is usually once a week. I hope I helped you at all
Curl Pattern: Chunks of 3B, 4A, and 4B mixed all up in this odd head of hair of mine.

Normal porosity, high density, medium width strands.

Current length: Between armpit length and bra strap length
Short-term goal: Bra strap length
Long-term goal: Mid-back length
Ultimate Goal: Waist length
Hello XD I have 4a/4b hair. The basic things-

PLEASE do not brush you're hair dry.

EVER

Just thinking about it makes me cringe DX It basically just breaks your hair off. type 4 hair is surprisingly fragile.

You need a good detangling conditioner. It needs to have a lot of slip and if your hair is longer you'll want a big bottle of something cheap. Use that in the shower. (I use Hello Hydration by herbal essences.)
  1. Get your hair wet,
  2. Put the conditioner in,
  3. finger comb it the best you can from tip to root,
  4. then use a wide tooth comb to detangle the same way- Do this whenever you need to. Depending on the pick you are using (I wouldn't use the metal one) You could use that too. It just need to have widely spaced, sturdy bristles. A boar bristle brush might be good to use to. I know I've been wanting one since my hair got longer XD
Don't shampoo your hair too often- and when you do, basically just shampoo your scalp. When I apply product I tend to try and keep it away from my roots or else it builds up quickly and is hard to get rid of. When I shampoo I use either Oil Oil Organic Root Stimulator Creamy Aloe Shampoo (I've recently got miss jessies- but I prefer the olive oil. they work the same and that one is much cheaper) I start by
  1. Detangling my hair in sections then rinsing out the conditioner and putting it in twists (My hair is long so I have to or it'll be a pain to part again XD)
  2. Then I Shampoo my scalp well (try not to scratch with your nails because that will hurt your head) then I rinse that out. I never wash my hair to the ends. Even just rinsing out the shampoo tends to leave it slightly squeaky. I also don't use gels and stuff on my hair though so it may be different for you.
  3. Then I apply my thicker leave in conditioner, maybe some oil, style it however I want (twists, braids, bun or just pulled back till I can let it down) then I get a shower as usual.

When I don't wash my hair I usually do the exact same thing, just skipping the shampoo step.

Thicker products work best to keep my hair moisturized (make sure your hair is at least damp when putting it on because that helps) but they build up so I use those when it starts feeling dry and the rest of the time I use a lighter spray leave in conditioner. You can make one by just diluting a conditioner in water in a spray bottle.

Oil is helpful to once you figure out how to use it XD

This is all on the assumption that hair hair is kind of long (long enough for picking) so I hope I helped! Like the others said, basically just read up on the site- you will find lots of styling tutorials- and you'll catch on quickly XD Good Luck.
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