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Old 12-02-2003, 08:35 AM   #41
 
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Doesn't anyone see Harry and Hermione together?!? That seems like the logical match-up to me!

I always figured Neville is going to come into his own, and surprise everyone.
No! Harry & Hermione can't be together - it has to be Ron & Hermione.

I was very proud of Neville in Book 5. Very proud.

Did anyone notice that in Book 5, Rowling described things in great detail? Moreso than before, it seemed? As I was reading it, I imagined how the movie would be - I don't know if it's b/c I've seen the movies and they're affected how I'm reading the books now or if the movies are now affecting Rowling's writing (for example, she is wrote Book 5 how the movie would play out partially in mind). This isn't necessarily a good/bad point, but it's just something I noticed.

People have been mentioning how they disliked Cho - I agree! She was getting on my nerves! And Harry (as much as I love him) was being such a punk to Ron. I love Ron & the Weasley twins. They are just hysterical.

Also, I want more about Snape. I was so glad Harry looked in that pensieve so we could find out why he hated Harry's dad so much. Snape is so interesting.
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I second on the Ron/Hermione thing

Neville is my hero

MORE SNAPE! MORE SNAPE! and heck...more Lucius too
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A squib is somebody born into a magical family who can't do magic. This is explained in Book 2, where we learn that Filch is a squib.
Wait are you saying Harry's mom's parents were magical? I thought Petunia went on a rant in book 1 or 2 about how proud they were that she got into Hogwarts, ie not expected, implying they were muggles. I mean if their parents were wizards, wouldn't it be pretty expected that she'd get in?

Oh Ron and Hermione all the way---they've got chemistry and they balance each other out and bring out the best in each other. Her brains, his humor/groundedness. There's a reason they piss each other off so much; they're perfect for each other (not that that's always a sign of true love, I just think that here it is). They probably won't get together until book 7 tho cause it would get potentially distracting and annoying.
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Re: Lily's parents. If Petunia was the older sister, and a squib, they would have been very excited to see that Lily was a witch.

Question. Since Harry was there when V killed his parents, why wasn't he able to see the thestrals from the beginning?

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Old 12-02-2003, 10:13 AM   #45
 
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Now a justified emoticon. I just remembered JK mentions about 80 times that Lily is a mudblood.
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Question. Since Harry was there when V killed his parents, why wasn't he able to see the thestrals from the beginning?
Ooooh! That's a good question! I never thought of that!
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Old 12-02-2003, 11:58 AM   #47
 
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I think maybe Harry couldn't see the Thestrals before because he didn't remember seeing anyone die - since he was just a baby, it didn't count or something. Everyone else who could see them saw someone die when they were older, so they remembered it.
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Doesn't anyone see Harry and Hermione together?!? That seems like the logical match-up to me!

I always figured Neville is going to come into his own, and surprise everyone.
No! Harry & Hermione can't be together - it has to be Ron & Hermione.

I was very proud of Neville in Book 5. Very proud.

Did anyone notice that in Book 5, Rowling described things in great detail? Moreso than before, it seemed? As I was reading it, I imagined how the movie would be - I don't know if it's b/c I've seen the movies and they're affected how I'm reading the books now or if the movies are now affecting Rowling's writing (for example, she is wrote Book 5 how the movie would play out partially in mind). This isn't necessarily a good/bad point, but it's just something I noticed.

People have been mentioning how they disliked Cho - I agree! She was getting on my nerves! And Harry (as much as I love him) was being such a punk to Ron. I love Ron & the Weasley twins. They are just hysterical.

Also, I want more about Snape. I was so glad Harry looked in that pensieve so we could find out why he hated Harry's dad so much. Snape is so interesting.
Why NOT Harry and Hermione? They complement each other well, too. It seems to me that when she went to the dance with that Quiddich player, they spent a lot of time on Harry's reaction to her, not so much on Ron's. And in CoS, when she comes into the dining hall after being cured of the petrification, Ron smiles at her, and then Harry pops from behind him, and pretty much takes over from there. I saw that as foreshadowing.

I also liked knowing Snape's history with James Potter. It explained a lot, and made him a lot less of a bad guy. I think Rowling did a good job of showing that even Harry's father - he of mythical proportions - was fallible, too. So far, only Dumbledore has seemed above such mistakes - so I wonder if and when his flaws or flubs will come out.

I read all 5 books pretty closely together, and did notice a big change in the style. I always thought a lot of it is just that she developed the characters so well. But your observation about the first two movies affecting the way she writes is a very astute one!

I have a question - sort of philosophical. It seems to me that all the "good guys" have some measure of bad in them - some ambiguity. But the "bad guys" - they're just pure evil. Are there any "bad guys" struggling with some measure of good in them? I haven't seen any teensy bit of good in the Malfoys, or in V. I guess the MoM is the only guy kinda in the middle, but he seems more like an oblivious fool than genuinely evil.
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There has been a sexual tension, if one can use that term about 11 year olds, between Ron and Hermione since the beginning. Think back to 6th grade and that little boy who you thought hated you because he kept punching you and making your life miserable. Or at least that's how it seemed, when in fact he was "in love" with you. JK Rowling captured that age so well. It is so obvious.

I think Harry will end up with Ginny, uniting the Potter and Weasley families.

A few more random things:

Another non-fan of Cho checking in here. :P

Just wanted to add to the chorus of "MORE SNAPE"
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OMG, I'm such a HP nerd! I've been so into this thread and have gained some really good insights!
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I REALLY don't see the Snape sexiness...sorry to disappoint you all .

Did you guys notice that he gained a lot of weight from SS to CoS?

I DO, however, see the Oliver Wood sexiness...I'm so sad he's not in the 3rd movie .
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Harry Potter influenced music!!! http://www.eskimolabs.com/hp/index.htm

I have the album and it's absolutely brilliant!
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I have the album and it's absolutely brilliant!
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*bows* thank you my dear
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I also liked knowing Snape's history with James Potter. It explained a lot, and made him a lot less of a bad guy. I think Rowling did a good job of showing that even Harry's father - he of mythical proportions - was fallible, too. So far, only Dumbledore has seemed above such mistakes - so I wonder if and when his flaws or flubs will come out.
I totally agree about Snape and James! I love how most of Rowling's characters are real. They are not perfect. I think Dumbledore has made mistakes, too, but his mistakes are more along the lines of errors in judgement. I don't think errors is the right word. Sometimes he could have done things differently and maybe things would have turned out better, but he'll never know. He said at the end of OotP that he should have told Harry more, not kept everything so secret. He admitted he is getting old and forgets what it's like to be young, or something like that. I think that is as fallible as Dumbledore will be.

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I have a question - sort of philosophical. It seems to me that all the "good guys" have some measure of bad in them - some ambiguity. But the "bad guys" - they're just pure evil. Are there any "bad guys" struggling with some measure of good in them? I haven't seen any teensy bit of good in the Malfoys, or in V. I guess the MoM is the only guy kinda in the middle, but he seems more like an oblivious fool than genuinely evil.
I think this is where Percy may come in. I wouldn't be surprised if he jumps over to the other side, but he will wrestle with it. Also, this was why I liked hearing Snape's story. You can kind of understand why he was a Death Eater and why he is still so terrible, but at the same time he must be a nice guy underneath it all because he came back to Dumbledore. So I definitely think he struggles with the need to do what he knows is right and the desire to revenge himself on Harry for his father's behavior.
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I'm a Harry Potter fan too

But I want to know who you think is going to die in the end? JK Rowling has said that she was very sad to write about someone dying in the last book.
At first I thought Harry was going to die so he could finally be with his parents, but now I'm not sure...
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Hmm... Voldemort definitely has to die because of the prophecy. I think many people will probably die in the seventh book as the battle with Voldemort comes to an end. Snape is definitely a possibility. Since the Deatheaters view him as a traitor, they will probably have it in for him in particular. I also wouldn't be surprised if Dumbledore doesn't make it to the end of the series, and I will be very interested to see who his successor is. I hope Harry doesn't die. I want a happy ending.
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Yeah, Voldemort has to die, that's true. Maybe it's Ron?
She said it was a death that was difficult to write about, so it has to be someone on the "good" side.
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I thought this theory was pretty interesting. What do you guys think?

http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/...wer/nt11.shtml
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I'm a Harry Potter fan too

But I want to know who you think is going to die in the end? JK Rowling has said that she was very sad to write about someone dying in the last book.
At first I thought Harry was going to die so he could finally be with his parents, but now I'm not sure...
I think the person who was supposed to die was Sirius, in OOtP. They say JK was very upset about it.

I have another question. In Book 1, Voldemort was on the back of Quirrell's head, so doesn't he KNOW that Snape is working for the good guys? I mean, he was in on all the conversations between Snape & Quirrell.
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