What is the HEAVIEST (most moisturising) conditioner you've ever used?

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I like Burt's Bees Avocado Butter. I actually slather it on my hair in the morning and wash it out at night. Or, I'll make my own deep condish mixing coconut and jojoba oils and also leave it on all day before washing it out.

For leave-ins I'll use either Jessicurl Too Shea! or Dr. Bronner's Lavender Leave-In. Most curlies say these are too heavy, but my thick 3C-4A curlinkies drink it up and are left shiny and bouncy!

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Blended Beauty Herbal Reconditioner is the heaviest I've ever used. The Curl Junkie Banana Deep whatever you call it is pretty thick and smells yummy but gave my hair no moisture somehow. I used to love the AOHR until I developed an allergy, but not like I love my Reconditioner.
layer cake of tight, spongy and silky/thready S strands that kink more than they coil
spiced with a few spiral coils and non-curling waves
mostly medium and fine with a sprinkle of coarse strands
protein is yummy
Bella Curl Conditioner, there's a thread in Product Reviews
I haven't tried SS Catlin's condish, but I have the Deeply Dec. and it is Amazing moisture. I'm super fine and super porous. It does wonders.
CG Since 2010
Hair Attributes: Mixed 2 with 3A undergrowth & no root curl.
Fine, Thin, Easily Manipulated, Easily Styled, Easy to Frizz, and Easy to damage.

Favorites: CJ Daily Fix, CJ Rehab, Anything Spiral Solutions, Darcy Botanicals Pumpkin Seed

New Goals To restore my hair after dying it twice in two weeks. Learning more about products found in the stores to fit my tight budget. I'm still working on trying to grow out my hair.
I don't know if this is gonna help --

But -- The CJ H&B Deep Fix isn't too heavy for my fine easily weighed down hair. Its a nice moisture boost when I need it. So I don't know if it will be be enough for your hair. It worked wonders and didn't weigh my hair down, so at least give it a try if that's what you ordered lol. For example -- since I'm sorta familiar with Peda's hair likes, I wouldn't recommend it to her. I would recommend the Darcy's, Jasmine's, and the SS DT.

Shescentit Green Tea wasn't too heavy for my hair, but the Jasmine's was. The Darcy's Pumpkin was crazy too much moisture.

I really wish that I could use the Spiral Solutions DT, because that was serious moisture -- and it made my hair super shiny and glossy. Too much moisture for me though.

I guess I'm adding in what I thought DIDn't weight me down, so you might compile a double list? Does that make sense? I know what I think isn't the end all -- but perhaps it can contribute to the data we are amassing lol.

And if Afrosheenqueen and CoilyOne both recommended Blended Beauty Herbal Reconstructor then I'd go snatch that up lol. Or the Mop Top since both SBB and Afrosheen recommended that too. Those ladies know their stuff!

Also -- Alexjoujou wrote this freaking fantastic article on her blog. Her and her daughter have hair at the opposite ends of the spectrum. So she has personal experience with a TON of items and is fantastic at comparing them. Her daughters hair has insatiable thirst and hers is more like mine. Though hers is harder to weigh down. Anyway -- I think her rating system is pretty darn good.
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Fia 2cFi, fine texture, med porosity CG 5-29-09 * My hair loves protein! Currently using : DermOrganics Shampoo and IHM, G2B Kinkier Mousse, Re:Coil VMM, Anything Spiral Solutions! MO Sealing. Coconut Oil Pre-Poo, once a month Hard Water shampoo. Avoiding Glycerin in finishing products.


Last edited by goobernut; 03-23-2010 at 01:41 PM.
Spiral Solutions Deeply Decadent DT. SheaMoisture Leave-In. AOHR.

Oddly, I also find Komaza Honeycomb Rejuvenating Treatment very moisturizing even though it's very light - leaves my hair moist and plump but not at all heavy. The first three can be too heavy if I use them too often.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - med./fine, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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O dear, I may have to make another shopping trip online... must... buy... super-moisturising... conditioners!

Actually, goobernut, I have a weighing-down problem sometimes as well. It rarely kicks in unless there's a LOT of oil in something (my first experience with AOCW was not a good one), but it does happen, so I'm careful. I have extremely dry fine hair - I don't know what's keeping it dry (it's actually gotten worse since I got home and started using soft water, whodathunkit?!), but it's super dry and nothing seems to be enough. It does seem, perhaps, really picky about what it allows to moisturise it, though, and it seems to do best in really humid environments. Glycerin and aloe seem to be my best friends in the summer. Unfortunately, that creates a problem in the winter: low dews+humectants+porous, dry hair = straw. Thus, my search for an extreeemely moisturising conditioner.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
I haven't tried SS Catlin's condish, but I have the Deeply Dec. and it is Amazing moisture. I'm super fine and super porous. It does wonders.
Originally Posted by SusieQin
That sounds perfect... I may have to buy some while I'm somewhere they ship to...
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
Thanks for the feedback Goober!
O dear, I may have to make another shopping trip online... must... buy... super-moisturising... conditioners!

Actually, goobernut, I have a weighing-down problem sometimes as well. It rarely kicks in unless there's a LOT of oil in something (my first experience with AOCW was not a good one), but it does happen, so I'm careful. I have extremely dry fine hair - I don't know what's keeping it dry (it's actually gotten worse since I got home and started using soft water, whodathunkit?!), but it's super dry and nothing seems to be enough. It does seem, perhaps, really picky about what it allows to moisturise it, though, and it seems to do best in really humid environments. Glycerin and aloe seem to be my best friends in the summer. Unfortunately, that creates a problem in the winter: low dews+humectants+porous, dry hair = straw. Thus, my search for an extreeemely moisturising conditioner.
Many of these things sound like my hair. I'm still learning, but I i use a rinse out and leave in that are heavy with oils, my hair gets....a bit oily?? it isn't really weighed down. I don't know the right word. Oily(ish) but NOT moisturized. My hair is also extremely fine. I think my hair prefers hard water too. My hair did great last summer with honey and humidity (not super humid in my area). Sounds familiar.
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2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
I'll let you know how the Caitlin's Conditioner is as soon as it gets here. It should be here in the next day or two. The Deeply Decadent was nice, but didn't seem as moisturizing to me as it did to everyone else. But nothing ever does.
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Thanks for the feedback Goober!
O dear, I may have to make another shopping trip online... must... buy... super-moisturising... conditioners!

Actually, goobernut, I have a weighing-down problem sometimes as well. It rarely kicks in unless there's a LOT of oil in something (my first experience with AOCW was not a good one), but it does happen, so I'm careful. I have extremely dry fine hair - I don't know what's keeping it dry (it's actually gotten worse since I got home and started using soft water, whodathunkit?!), but it's super dry and nothing seems to be enough. It does seem, perhaps, really picky about what it allows to moisturise it, though, and it seems to do best in really humid environments. Glycerin and aloe seem to be my best friends in the summer. Unfortunately, that creates a problem in the winter: low dews+humectants+porous, dry hair = straw. Thus, my search for an extreeemely moisturising conditioner.
Many of these things sound like my hair. I'm still learning, but I i use a rinse out and leave in that are heavy with oils, my hair gets....a bit oily?? it isn't really weighed down. I don't know the right word. Oily(ish) but NOT moisturized. My hair is also extremely fine. I think my hair prefers hard water too. My hair did great last summer with honey and humidity (not super humid in my area). Sounds familiar.
Originally Posted by pedaheh
I am so glad I'm not the only one with bizarrely dry, porous hair. It was doing a bit better for a while there, a month or two ago, but has since gone even stranger. It's like no matter what I do to it, it won't retain moisture. At least it's got some stretch now, which is something. Used to snap as soon as I looked at it.

Oddly, nothing I do changes curl pattern, or even definition. It always looks like telephone cords all over my head, even if it's super dry. Weird.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
Have you tried coconut oil? Coconut oil as a prewash treatment has really helped me with moisture.
http://pedaheh.blogspot.com/ (a blog to help new wavies, go to the how do I get started page)
2a (nc.com) 2bFi (Fia), very fine, thin, low/normal elasticity, porous, CG, doesn't get weighed down
Cowash: Tresemme naturals
Rinse out/leave in: Renpure Organics (red)
Curl enhancer: FSG
Gel: BRHG, Salon care aloe, Ecostyler Krystal (normal dews)
PT: ION effective care, IAgirl's gelatin PT
Low Poo: renpure (red), Ion swimmers
Have you tried the Spritz & Condish method from DEL2C?
Mod CG since 8/08 -was wavy, poufy, and difficult before CG. low-poo nearly every day/diffuse daily
Low-poo-kevin murphy
Rinse-out conditioners - kevin murphy
Leave-in- kevin murphy bodyguard
Curl Enhancers-kevin murphy, curly sexy hair, kccc
Hold-kccc & brhg
I like Mixed Chicks Deep Conditioner
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Updated April 6, 2010

CG Method

Type: 3b
Porous, normal elasticity, and coarse texture

Cowash: CJ Daily Fix
Styling: CJ, jojoba oil, KCCC
DT: CJ Curl Rehab, CR Algae Deep conditioner
I am so glad I'm not the only one with bizarrely dry, porous hair. It was doing a bit better for a while there, a month or two ago, but has since gone even stranger. It's like no matter what I do to it, it won't retain moisture. At least it's got some stretch now, which is something. Used to snap as soon as I looked at it.

Oddly, nothing I do changes curl pattern, or even definition. It always looks like telephone cords all over my head, even if it's super dry. Weird.
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
I feel your pain! My hair is very porous and keeping moisture is something of a feat! Espcially the ends of my hair.

The SS DT does great for moisture! I've even have used it as a leave in (mind you I used a very small amount.) It has done the best, however I still have moisture leaving the ends of my hair.

After posting about this myself, it was suggested to use something that would act like a sealant. Coconut oil is great, but it can make my hair look stringy so I can't really use it unless I decide to straighten my hair, however SS also makes a butter that just a tiny scoop on my finger and rubbing my palms together lightly and scrunching it into the ends of my hair worked! I've been doing it ever since and I have moist ends all day long now!

So yeah thats something that you can look into is things that act as a sealant like the coconut oil or your butters. Just be careful, if your hair is like mine it.... mine can look stringy and wet easily if I use the wrong thing or too much.

OH! and I always do it while its wet. Nevet dry.
CG Since 2010
Hair Attributes: Mixed 2 with 3A undergrowth & no root curl.
Fine, Thin, Easily Manipulated, Easily Styled, Easy to Frizz, and Easy to damage.

Favorites: CJ Daily Fix, CJ Rehab, Anything Spiral Solutions, Darcy Botanicals Pumpkin Seed

New Goals To restore my hair after dying it twice in two weeks. Learning more about products found in the stores to fit my tight budget. I'm still working on trying to grow out my hair.
Have you tried the Spritz & Condish method from DEL2C?
Originally Posted by willwork4curls
I haven't yet - I'm not sure how helpful it'll be. :-/ Then again, everything's worth a go once.
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3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
I've had success in the past using a body butter from Naked (cone/paraben/etc. free range from the UK). It's fine if I'm just doing protective styling or going straight, but doesn't seem to work if I go curly. SOTC-type products just leave me greasy, even if I apply them when wet. I think I need to find a way to seal the moisture in, but as you pointed out, that can be tricky, especially with fine hair. There may never be enough moisture or protein, but there can very easily be too much oil.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
Actually Wings I'm finding some problems with soft water as well. I put a shower filter in about a month and a half ago and my hair has been very inconsistent since. Although my scalp is not nearly as itchy my hair seems to be going through some rebellion.

It's not everyday...but now it always seems like its either ultra dry OR over conditioned. I can't seem to find a good mix. Things that worked well before don't work at all with the soft water (in fact I'm ready to do some serious posting on the swap board!)--it is positively dramatic the difference!

I'm getting more frizz (although not much compared to people who get frizz though like my daughter) and the most inconsistent hair days ever.

It's very frustrating! I agree!
FIA 2c/3aFi

Done experimenting! Loving Spiral Solutions products!

Blog: http://thewavytales.blogspot.com/
I would really encourage you to try the Spritz & Condish method - I can tell you that it has made more of a difference to my hair than anything else I've tried.

It seems like I read almost everything on these boards and try almost everything This method is so simple, yet so effective. I was struggling constantly with dry hair - using great products, but nothing seemed to give me lasting moisture. I still use those great products and, combined with this method, my hair is curlier, bouncier, and healthier than ever.

I basically just wet my hair with a spray bottle, slather in some good conditioner, put on a shower cap and go about my business for 15 minutes or more. Then I get in the shower and rinse a little, low-poo, condition and rinse as usual. I do this every day - easy.

I have seen the results continue to improve over time, so if you decide to try it make sure and give it some time. However, if it works for you I think you'll notice some results right away.

(I found that I was getting a little over-conditioned, so I'm making sure I only leave the "condish" in for 10 min. max.)
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Mod CG since 8/08 -was wavy, poufy, and difficult before CG. low-poo nearly every day/diffuse daily
Low-poo-kevin murphy
Rinse-out conditioners - kevin murphy
Leave-in- kevin murphy bodyguard
Curl Enhancers-kevin murphy, curly sexy hair, kccc
Hold-kccc & brhg

Last edited by willwork4curls; 04-07-2010 at 07:19 PM.
I too thought I was one of few with this problem! We should all start a club!

As far as I know, it's impossible for my hair to be over-conditioned, but at the same time I have to be very careful with oils or the occasional silicone serum b/c it gets greasy/stringy easily. Doesn't seem like it is when it''s wet, but when I blow-dry/straighten I notice it. In the shower, my hair takes a few minutes to get fully soaked. It doesn't suck in water easily...that makes it porous, right? And porous hair likes moisture more than protein doesn't it? (I need a memory refresher pleassseee!)

Anyways, My verrrry fine hair loves protein, so I use the Generic K-pak--sometimes even as a leave-in! After CO'ing with Garnier Triple Nutrition CO, I often mix Generic K-pak with AOHR to make a leave-in (using a quarter-sized amount mid-shaft to ends). End result: bouncyyy tight curls.

In effort to keep my crazy protein/moisture balance in check, I sometimes CO with Generic K-pak and just use AOHR as a leave in.

But wait, there's more! Maybe 1-2 times a week I'll seal my ends/dry spots (after my leave-in) with jojoba oil.

Even doing all this, my hair can still be dry and/or frizzy. Especially 2nd day hair. I drink plenty of water, but wonder how much my diet affects this issue.
Low/Med porosity, very fine, low/med elasticity & density, 3A
AKA hard to work with hair!


Low-Poo: Kenra Volumizing shampoo, AG Fast Food shampoo
CO: AG Ultramoist, AO GPB, Nature's Gate Aloe Vera
Gel: GFCC mousse, HETT, Aquage Megagel
Also: Aloe Vera juice or Alba Leave-in. Weekly ACV rinse.
Wishlist: YTC low-poo, Elucence poo, Bioterra Curl Creme, AGEbeautiful Strengthening trtment, SS Repairing Protein Trtment, LuxyHair ext's

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