CURLS and Jane Carter at Target!

1. The prices are completely different than on her website. (Curls Products)
2. Some of the names are different.

Which leads me to wonder.... Are the ingredients different?
Originally Posted by goobernut
I directed this question to Mahisha in the Curls sponsored forum on NC.com. It seems she ignored my question, but answered the one after mine. I do hope she'll respond since there are so many of us who are curious about it.
Originally Posted by tonsofcurlz
Is it bad that this is almost driving me crazy? LOL I noticed they skipped your question too. Hmmm, they are usually really nice and respond very quickly. I love their products so I'm definitely waiting on a response.

My friend lives in LA and she is supposed to go to Target tonight so I gave her a couple of product ingredients and asked her to check it out and see if they are the same. She printed the names and ingredients out so we shall see. Hopefully they have them at the Target she goes to.

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On-line, they all say they're sulfate- and paraben-free, but they don't mention silicones . . . .
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More information on the Curls products at Target:

http://www.naturallycurly.com/curlta...9&postcount=40
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I sent a question email out to CURLS customer service. Here's a copy of my email and the response:

" Hi, I recently saw some 'curls' products available for purchase on Target website. Is this you, or some other brand? And if it is your products, could you send me a list of the ingredients? Thanks so much!"

"Yes, CURLS has launched a mass market product line, exclusively for Target….CURLS for Target. This is a sister line to our professional product line, CURLS. This line is for the budget conscious curly in search of wholesome products. The price points are lower, the packaging and formulations have also been changed. They are formulated with some organics….and still are paraben, silicone, sulfate, artificial color/fragrance, mineral and petrolatum free."

she then sent me an incredibly long list of all the stores they are available at. If anyone is interested in the full listing of target stores selling curls, pm me.
oops, didn't see the post right above mine! I guess the list of stores is available in that link, my bad.
It's far from all Target stores - probably no more than a quarter of those in the Atlanta area are listed.
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HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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I have 2 targets here and the closest one carrying the Curls line is 1 hour away. I have to pass like 8 targets to get to the one that has the Curls. Talk about curbing the PJism!

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Sounds like I'm lucky that one of the ones here is on my way home from work!
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Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite,CJ Pattern Pusha,, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

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The closest store to me of any of these is in Delaware... how unfair that it's the only store in the entire Mid-Atlantic?
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NONE at all in Texas? Well, that bites.

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The closest store to me of any of these is in Delaware... how unfair that it's the only store in the entire Mid-Atlantic?
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
Are you back in the States??
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NONE at all in Texas? Well, that bites.

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Originally Posted by wookiemouse
Word. I had my hopes up!
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The closest store to me of any of these is in Delaware... how unfair that it's the only store in the entire Mid-Atlantic?
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
Are you back in the States??
Originally Posted by kathymack
Yep - just for a three week vacation at my parents' place. Comparatively inexpensive products, here I come!

(I promise I came back because I wanted to see them... really... though the cheap shipping from Curlmart and sundry was a deciding factor )
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Pardon my stupidity, but is that the whole list, only going up to the state of Illinois?

Thanks!
Sherry
Pardon my stupidity, but is that the whole list, only going up to the state of Illinois?

Thanks!
Sherry
Originally Posted by sherry7899
That's what I was wondering.
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Pardon my stupidity, but is that the whole list, only going up to the state of Illinois?

Thanks!
Sherry
Originally Posted by sherry7899
I know right! I saw that and was like WHAT???? A little weird if you ask me. I've checked back a few times to see if anything was added and nothing. Doesn't make sense to stop at the letter, "I". I'm in Texas and get them at my BSS. But, if I can get them cheaper with slightly different CG friendly ingredients I really want to try!
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Thanks! I felt stupid for asking that. It just seemed odd.

I've never tried "Curls" products, but I definitely would if I could just get them in a store without having to pay shipping charges.


Sherry
Go to http://www.missjessies.com/ there is a banner that pops up through the little slide show type thing that is red and says Miss Jessie's Hits Target and you can click on that and see the whole list of targets A-Z.
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Darn, the Miss Jessie products are not at a Target near me. Hopefully I will find the "Curls" products, though.

Thanks for the link to the Miss Jessie's products.

Sherry
I noticed on the bottles for the Curls products that are available at Target that it says sulfate, silicone, and paraben free. At the very least this means the products are still CG.
Originally Posted by smasters467
Agreed.

Also there are economies of scale when you go into somewhere like Target. I know someone who works high up at corporate Target. If you are producing on a scale large enough to be in Target (with thousands of stores) then you can buy ingredients cheaper due to size. It is possible the formula is reformulated but I don't think it could be said positively absent proof positive. Also remember that Target runs small profit margin's on many things--they make their money by volume on something like this--not individually per product. It is unlikely that the margins are small on the Curls website--it is possible, for example, that Curls sold the product to Target for $8.50 and Target is charging $8.99 for it. She would have had to go lower in cost to get into Target since the line is not well known.

It's also possible that she shifted from organic ingredients to inorganic for Target..I don't remember seeing on the Target website that it was organic...not using organic ingredients cuts cost measurably..so it could be the same product but without the emphasis on organic ingredients. Also its possible that she replaced an exotic oil with a not so exotic one (although that would be reformulated--guess we'll have to have someone buy them and type out the ingredients!)

Just offering up another alternate explanation. Although I like some of her products o.k. the only one I regularly use is the Asian Tea Hair Conditioner which I love (which does not look like one that is available).
Originally Posted by Alexjoujou

Keep in mind the bottom number will be larger due to the fact the product is now readily available to those who already use the products and now opens a whole new market for those curlies who didnt know these products existed, those who impulse buy family member purchases for curlies, etc, etc.... Target has opend a whole new multi market arena for these curly products..
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