HELP! I'm so close to giving up on my hair! =\

Maybe your hair doesn't like the fine toothed comb, and would work better with a brush. I absolutely love my Denman brush. I have read about people using a comb with great results, but I have also read that some people can't do the comb (their hair doesn't clump as well) and give the curl definition they like. So don't give up, keep experimenting!
3a/3b & fine
CG since 3/2010
Low sulphate shampoo once a week:
Elucence Moisture Benefits Shampoo

Rinse Out Conditioner - used only when needed - Elucence Moisture Benefits, & KCKT

Leave-in - used only when needed - KCKT

Co-wash- Elucence Moisture Benefits Conditioner (about 1-2 a week).

Stylers: KCKT, Eco-Styler Gel, AG:Recoil, FSG.

Styling: Raking and smoothing product throughout hair and then the Super Soaker Method without the Denman.
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 18
Have you tried not plopping? My hair hates it. I know this process of trial and error is so frustrating. Maybe try not plopping and see what happens.
UK Curly.


My hair likes or loves

Olive oil and honey DT

AOHR Condish
Original Source Tea Tree Condish to cowash
Wella Wellaflex Gel - not available in the UK

My hair hates

Jessicurl, except WDT.
Boots gel
VO5 gel
What an interesting morning I've had. Here's what I changed today...no leave-in and no gel. Instead, I just used Biotera curl creme, fine-tooth combed, then Joico mousse, then plopped for 15 minutes. It FINALLY dawned on me that the plopping was making my clumps break apart, not the gel, so I ran back to the bathroom and re-supersoaked, and re-moussed. This gave me MUCH better clumps, but there are a still a few kinks I'd like to work out (har har).

I probably shouldn't comb anymore. Or plop anymore. Or use a leave-in. Since I've finally figured out that plopping makes my hair sad, not gel, I think I'm going to give the gel ONE more try, before I officially give it up altogether.

Maybe your hair doesn't like the fine toothed comb, and would work better with a brush. I absolutely love my Denman brush. I have read about people using a comb with great results, but I have also read that some people can't do the comb (their hair doesn't clump as well) and give the curl definition they like. So don't give up, keep experimenting!
Originally Posted by greekgoddess
Yeah, I'm totally starting to question the comb. I have a lot more surface frizz when I comb it...I'll use my denman instead next time and see! Thanks for the tip!

Have you tried not plopping? My hair hates it. I know this process of trial and error is so frustrating. Maybe try not plopping and see what happens.
Originally Posted by DoobyDuck
Why didn't I think of this before!! I plopped my hair this morning, and instantly saw all of my clumps break apart. I'd never attributed it to plopping! When it finally dawned on me, I supersoaked again, and voila! Better clumps!! I didn't have the root curl I usually get with plopping, I can totally forgo the root curl for better clumping
3a/C/iii; mod-CG since 07/14/08
Shampoo: Whole Foods 365 Citrus Grapefruit shampoo (same results as Deva Low Poo but a tenth of the price!)
Condish: Deva One Condition
Styling: Deva AnGel, then SOTC with no Frizz creme
Hairtwins! Ab-star, Ledzeppole, Shellynot, soficurls and tarc817


Maybe your hair doesn't like the fine toothed comb, and would work better with a brush. I absolutely love my Denman brush. I have read about people using a comb with great results, but I have also read that some people can't do the comb (their hair doesn't clump as well) and give the curl definition they like. So don't give up, keep experimenting!
Originally Posted by greekgoddess
I tried wide-tooth combing this morning, and my hair stayed "combed," even after supersoaking. Guess combing isn't for me, period. Gave biotera gel one last try. Doesn't like that either (sigh).

Also tried Giovanni smooth as silk...made my scalp greasy and my hair kinda dry - weird! Taking that back to whole foods asap :P I'm gonna stick to the Garnier Triple Nutrition for my cowash.

Also got Giovanni xtreme DT...we'll see how that works lol. Getting kinda frustrated with all these experiments! :\

I like the humectant in the Biotera cream, so I'll probably keep that, but I'm curious as to the comparison between it and the Giovanni leave in. Speaking of which! What's the point of a leave-in? How do I know I need one?!
3a/C/iii; mod-CG since 07/14/08
Shampoo: Whole Foods 365 Citrus Grapefruit shampoo (same results as Deva Low Poo but a tenth of the price!)
Condish: Deva One Condition
Styling: Deva AnGel, then SOTC with no Frizz creme
Hairtwins! Ab-star, Ledzeppole, Shellynot, soficurls and tarc817


My two cents: Slow down and simplify. You are doing SO much at once it's impossible to tell what works and what doesn't. Get back to basics. Three products. A cowash/leave-in, a rinse out, and a gel or mousse. Just use those. Then, if you want to try a new product or method, try one thing at a time. And use it for a few days to see if it works. Then you will know if it makes a difference or not. If you test out a new method, a new conditioner, and a new product all in the same week you will have no idea what is working or why.
CG since 2/23/10!

2B 3A mix, fine texture and high porosity at crown/bangs, normal elsewhere. I like protein!

Trying to grow out a short haircut.

WASH: Jessicurl Cleansing Cream (once every week or so)
CONDITION: Jessicurl Too Shea! or Aloeba Conditioner
STYLE: Jessicurl Gelebration Spray/Awe Inspiraling Spray

http://public.fotki.com/85MR2/ (PICS OF CG TRANSITION SO FAR) Need to update. No pics with the Jessicurl products yet, but I LOVE them!
*sigh* you're totally right. I guess I'm just freaking out because my normal HG's aren't working as well =\

Looking through your fotki, though...you have beautiful curls!
3a/C/iii; mod-CG since 07/14/08
Shampoo: Whole Foods 365 Citrus Grapefruit shampoo (same results as Deva Low Poo but a tenth of the price!)
Condish: Deva One Condition
Styling: Deva AnGel, then SOTC with no Frizz creme
Hairtwins! Ab-star, Ledzeppole, Shellynot, soficurls and tarc817


So I've been trying AG re:coil + mousse with not much success. My hair loves the re:coil, but as soon as it mixes with mousse, everything falls out O.o

I'm going to try it by it self and with mousse first, then re:coil....any other ideas?
3a/C/iii; mod-CG since 07/14/08
Shampoo: Whole Foods 365 Citrus Grapefruit shampoo (same results as Deva Low Poo but a tenth of the price!)
Condish: Deva One Condition
Styling: Deva AnGel, then SOTC with no Frizz creme
Hairtwins! Ab-star, Ledzeppole, Shellynot, soficurls and tarc817


Try the finger twist on just the top-crown of the hair, sometimes you need to remind your hair that it has a curly structure. (twist or twirl with your finger before gel after leave in) just try one or 2 strands and see how that reacts for the rest of the day.

It has worked well for me. after my leave in, I finger twist just the top layer of my hair to get that neat even look. I do that probably for once in 4-5 wash and it helps form curls and remind my hair then and there that it is curly

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