MASTERPOST: Types of Frizz

Awesome thread. Thanks, Laurabeth33!
2a/M-C/ii hair. Super long.
Laurabeth - I have been seeing some frizz while applying products when wet - do you remember which ones caused yours?? Mine seems to be more prevalent if I dont use a cream under my gel. Since I have been using a cream under they are much less.

ETA - maybe it's just the humidity lately too.
Central Massachusetts

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In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
xcptnl, I call that "frizz upon application" when I'm reviewing things. It's usually caused (for me) by (A) suffocating ingreds like waxes or large amounts of oils like castor oil or (B) something my hair likes fine in winter but is not liking in summer (usually something with oils).

Basically, it's my hair's way of saying "hey, what do you think you're doing?!? don't you know the humidity is 97%, and my cuticle is gapping open? I don't want that stuff in here! Get it off! Get it off!" (yes, my hair talks )
Thanks so much (I wish my hair would talk - it would make things sooo much easier). It seems better now that I am using a small amount of cj cocoa coffee curl cream first. I dont use any oils so it's not that but maybe it was the heavier conditioner I was using prior to the products being applied. I had been using the GF CnS leave in - it might have been that too. It was weird - I had never seen frizz when applying before - very scary
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
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Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
Thanks for the link, xcptnl! And what a great "article" Laurabeth!

I'm trying to figure out which type I have... I first jumped on the "surface frizz" one, because it's all over the surface of the hair. However, it's underneath, as well - not just on he top.

I think I might have a comcbnation of in-the-curls frizz and surface frizz. There is a layer over the entire surface that is hairs seperated from their curls and are just a fuzzy layer lying on top.

I also have some frizz in the curls themselves, but it's different - hairs that kind of fray off from their clumps. They are still curled well, they just didn't "stick" to the curls they should be in. This is most ofthen the type of frizz I see as soon as I start moving my hair - even before I put product in. Sometimes it's even more than one hair - almost like seperate, really skinny curls that's didn't stay with their clumps.

Does the combo of these two mean I am lacking in moisture? Do I need to DT, or rinse lese CO out of my hair?
2B/3A, THICK. CG since 6/5/07
Alternating Deva LoPoo/VO5 Kiwi Lime, OneC, re:coil, Alagio Curl Cream, LTW, LOOB.
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I definitely have poofy frizz hair. My hair is curly when it's wet, but as it dries the curls disappear and I end up with zero curls. Just a big mess of hairs that don't touch each other. My hair is naturally quite thick, but it's 100x thicker with the poofy frizz. It's also super dry and brittle.

I really want my hair to be curly, but no matter what products I've tried it doesn't seem to happen.

Been trying for my entire life to get nice hair. (I'm 24 and have had frizz since I was 3 years old.)
Wavy, dry, protein sensitive, coarse, highly overly porus, very low elasticity, medium-thick density, very prone to split ends
Avoids: Sulphates, Silicones, Protein, Mineral oil, Petroleum, Polyquaternium, Sodium/Magnesium, Heat
Mod-CG since June 2007
Bumping up!
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
bump for RozettaStone
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
Bumping up!
Central Massachusetts

One good reason to only maintain a small circle of friends is that three out of four murders are committed by people who know the victim. ~George Carlin~

In regards to Vagazzling: They just want to get into the goods without worrying about getting scratched up by fake crystals. ~spring1onu~
i have wind blown frizz
(i own a jeep)
anytime my hair gets blown around the top half (from my eyes up) gets all undefined and (shorter pieces) tend to stick up and (longer pieces) lay on top of my pretty defined curls
how do i fix/avoid that (minus avoiding all wind... not possible!)
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honey after leave-in
satin sleep cap & shea butter for day 2 hair
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Just for whatever it's worth, allover hair color definitely makes my hair less likely to frizz. I can tell I need color without looking at my roots because my hair becomes so unmanageable when it hasn't been colored. Highlighting does the opposite: makes it drier and more frizz-prone.

Does humidity-induced frizz get its own category? I love my hair in winter, but hate it in summer when the humidity is high.
I'm bumping this again.

And can I just say..... oh... my.... God!

I thought I had one problem -- sounds like it might be several! I have so many of those, I'm not even sure where to start.

And since it seems like any number of product ingredients can improve (or worsen!) the problem, it looks like I am going to be trying new products.... forever!

Has anyone found a systematic way to do this? Everything has such a combination of ingredients -- I suppose I can try to group them, alternating ones with more/less/different types of oils, more/less/different types /no proteins, glycerin/no glycerin/more or less glycerin, etc.......but what about all those "filler" ingredients with 25 syllables that they all have? (methylhydroxyethylcellulocinnimate, anyone???? ok, I made that up).

And products are only part of it -- there are also styling techniques, humidity, hormones, phases of the moon....

I'm going to run out of time and money. Maybe I'll have to accept that, into each life, some frizz must fall...

ugh. Sorry for rant.

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Modified CG since 2008.
What is "suffocation," what causes it, how can you know if it's happening, and what's the remedy?
2A/B, F, i - thinning on top due to meds
Above-shoulder length, can't plop!
Using: VO5 Tea Therapy Blackberry Cond (cowash), LA Looks Mega Hold gel
What is "suffocation," what causes it, how can you know if it's happening, and what's the remedy?
Originally Posted by That70sHeidi
Suffocation is when some ingredient(s), either that didn't rinse off in the shower (from a conditioner, for example) or from a styler/leave-in applied after showering. For me, it can be a -siloxane, wax, or combination of ingredients (in other words, I can tell from my hair crimping up in a wiry scream that it's suffocated, but no ingredient sticks out as the culprit).

I know it's happening because the frizz looks wiry and crimped, like the individual hairs have wrinkled intensely.

The only cure is (A) stop using the new/offending product and (B) possibly clarify to remove any buildup from a resilliant offender (if avoiding the new product doesn't return my curls to normal non-crimped-ness).
2b w/ some 3a
product tester geek
Hey there. I was wondering if it was ever stated anywhere what types of products were better for treating each of the dift. types of frizz? I seen some suggestions for certain types of frizz... but I seem to have several of these issues going on. Maybe they were stated and I just didn't understand?
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