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laurabeth33 10-30-2006 02:19 PM

MASTERPOST: Types of Frizz
 
This thread existed before, and it was a frequently bumped one. I thought I'd start it again.

There are many types of frizz referenced on the boards.

:arrow: Surface Frizz--This is frizz that is only on the outer layer of the hair, not in-the-curls or underneath. It is most frequently airy and light in nature and can be exacerbated by humidity. Individual hairs are seen separated from the others but instead regions of hair seem to be lifted up and laying on top of the hair like a fuzzy layer.

:arrow: Halo Frizz--This is surface frizz that is only in the crown area.

:arrow: Frizz at Ends/Frayed Ends Frizz--This is the opposite of Halo Frizz. The ends of the curls are the area with the frizz. Frequently, the frizz breaking up the curls only at the ends makes the ends look "frayed." It is usually tied to a lack of sufficient moisture since the ends are the driest part of a person's hair, having faced the most environmental and chemical abuse simply from existing the longest outside of the scalp and dead.

:arrow: In-the-Curls Frizz--This frizz occurs within the curls themselves so that the curls have a lack of smoothness or order. Frequently, this occurs between the curls, blurring the line of definition. This commonly is caused by stickier stylers and products with ionic charges that cause hairs to attract to each other.

:arrow: Frizzy Tubes--This is a love-hate type of frizz. On one side, it doesn't allow curls to be broken up by the frizz. On the other hand, the curls, which are formed into non-enlongated, Shirley Temple ringlets, are frizzy in that tubular shape, hence the name Frizzy Tubes.

:arrow: Crimped Frizz--This frizz looks wiry and individual hairs are crinkled and crimped. The cause of this frizz is usually suffocation, often compounded by heat and humidity.

:arrow: Producty Frizz--Where there is fake shine and frizz, there's producty frizz, a type of frizz that looks like a layer of product is on the hair but not acting to prevent the frizz. Often, this makes the frizz more apparent, even when it's less intense than with other products. Castor oil and heavy use of silicones are common causes of this type of frizz.

:arrow: Dry Frizz--Instead of the hair looking strong and rebellious, dry frizz looks frazzled and bone-dry. Because the cuticle of wavy and curly hair is more lifted, allowing moisture to escape, we are more prone to dryness, and therefore, dry frizz can be part of a curly's struggle. Dry Frizz feels dry, but often it looks even drier than it feels.

:arrow: Spider Weby Frizz--This frizz looks like a web of individual hairs separated, mainly on the surface, and are laying across the surface of the hair in places they don't belong. The number and density of hairs who are individually separated and laying separate from their curl-homes determines the intensity of this type of frizz. The cause can be multi-facetted but includes not enough hold, wind, naps, and ionic charges on the hair being too similar one to another so the hairs repel from each other.

:arrow: Flyaway Frizz--While this is similar to Spider Weby Frizz in that it's based in individual hair's separation and is surface-bound. However, instead of the hairs laying along the surface of the hair in a web-like netting, these hairs stick out away from the rest of the hair. They are frequently in the length rather than the top as well.

:arrow: Frizz Upon Application/Scrunching--A handful of products that I've tried gave me frizz either upon being applied to my hair or while my hair was still wet and I was scrunching after applying gel. This is always a bad sign because, in either case, my hair is wet and shouldn't be frizzing yet. Usually, this is an indication of either intense suffocation of the hair (later to become crimped frizz) or a dominant ionic charge repelling my hairs from each other.

:arrow: Poofball Frizz--This kind of frizz allows no curl to survive. Any kind of frizz can lead to it, but once there is zero definition or order to the curls or wavy, it's poofball frizz. Frizz can be poofball and another type (like poofball and crimped).

:arrow: Fluffy Frizz--Unlike poofball where all definition is gone, fluffy frizz exists when individual strips of definition can be identified but each one is fluffy with frizz. This is often rooted in a lack of moisture.

:arrow: General Frizz--This term means the frizz didn't have any particular characteristics dominant enough to diagnose the type of frizz.

Have I missed any?

HippieChic 10-30-2006 02:32 PM

This is some great information! Thanks Laurabeth. I think I've had all of them at one time or another.

DolphinCurls 10-30-2006 02:44 PM

Very interesting and helpful! :D

jennyfurrens 10-30-2006 03:01 PM

hey laurabeth! great list :) but for me i feel one of the frizz's (fluffy frizz) isnt caused by lack of moisture but too much ie. overconditioning. maybe have one in there for that, or edit fluffy frizz to include over conditioning? or does 'frizz' mean the hair is dry and therefore overconditioning doesnt count?

JuicyTube 10-30-2006 03:35 PM

:shock:

one way street 10-30-2006 03:57 PM

Wow laurabeth, your the all-knowing curly!

embudini 10-30-2006 04:07 PM

Laurabeth you are SO awesome!!!! :D

medusahair 10-30-2006 04:38 PM

Is the frizz you get from curl enhancers consider product frizz? or is that from too much product?

If I use a light gel over some curl enhancers I'll get this real light halo frizz. Which is weird since I very rarely have frizz. I did that just today actually

one way street 10-30-2006 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by medusahair
Is the frizz you get from curl enhancers consider product frizz? or is that from too much product?

If I use a light gel over some curl enhancers I'll get this real light halo frizz. Which is weird since I very rarely have frizz. I did that just today actually


bump.. that happened to me too.

laurabeth33 10-30-2006 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jennyfurrens
hey laurabeth! great list :) but for me i feel one of the frizz's (fluffy frizz) isnt caused by lack of moisture but too much ie. overconditioning. maybe have one in there for that, or edit fluffy frizz to include over conditioning? or does 'frizz' mean the hair is dry and therefore overconditioning doesnt count?

Oh, that's another goody...

:arrow: Overconditioning Frizz--Frizz caused by too much moisture that causes a combination of Flyaway Frizz and Fluffy Frizz. The difference in Fluffy Frizz and Overconditioning Frizz is that the hair feels soft with Overconditioning Frizz rather than dry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by medusahair
Is the frizz you get from curl enhancers consider product frizz? or is that from too much product?

If I use a light gel over some curl enhancers I'll get this real light halo frizz. Which is weird since I very rarely have frizz. I did that just today actually

This could be the Frizz on Application/Scrunching. If it's not looking producty, it wouldn't be Producty Frizz.

I know volumizing products have that same effect on me. Maybe another type could be...

:arrow: Volumizing/Curl Boosting Product-Induced Frizz--The frizz that comes along with the wonderful volume or curl boosting of a product that provides either or both but also decreases the curly's control over his/her curls, allowing some frizz. This is frequently halo or surface frizz in appearance, but it is directly tied to the use of this boosting-type product.

medusahair 10-30-2006 06:10 PM

That's perfect! :D :D

jennyfurrens 10-31-2006 03:24 AM

that's great laurabeth :) my boyfriends gonna be SOOO happy about this list cos now rather than saying "oh my hairs frizzy" i can say "well i think i've got some fluffy frizz here, but i don't kno what to do about this crimped frizz at the back...or would you say its more spider weby?'

:wink:

Ab-star 10-31-2006 04:36 AM

Wow, and I thought I just had FRIZZ...now I know WHY!!

redcelticcurls 10-31-2006 06:14 AM

All those times I thought I had halo frizz when I really had surface frizz. :lol:

Doodles 10-31-2006 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blush
:shock:

My thoughts exactly!

laurabeth33 10-31-2006 08:01 AM

Can you tell I'm preparing to release my Conditioner Chronicles? Defining these terms is imperative to ensure thorough communication.

frizzbomb 10-31-2006 08:41 AM

Is the frizz you can see when your hair is still wet/while scrunching always a reaction to a product? Sometimes my hair actually looks frizzier while it's drying then it does after it has dried all the way and even when I've been using the same products.

By the way I am beside myself imagining that this conditioner survey will actually tell me what products work for what types of frizz problems. Is that the idea?!! OOOOOOOH I can't wait.

laurabeth33 10-31-2006 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frizzbomb
Is the frizz you can see when your hair is still wet/while scrunching always a reaction to a product? Sometimes my hair actually looks frizzier while it's drying then it does after it has dried all the way and even when I've been using the same products.

Usually it is. When I see significant frizz when my hair is wet/while scrunching, it could also be caused by buildup from past days with the same product which could be why the same product could give you that type of frizz.

Quote:

Originally Posted by frizzbomb
By the way I am beside myself imagining that this conditioner survey will actually tell me what products work for what types of frizz problems. Is that the idea?!! OOOOOOOH I can't wait.

That's the plan. I'm 93% there!

jen4you 11-06-2006 12:53 PM

Spider Weby Frizz--This frizz looks like a web of individual hairs separated, mainly on the surface, and are laying across the surface of the hair in places they don't belong. The number and density of hairs who are individually separated and laying separate from their curl-homes determines the intensity of this type of frizz. The cause can be multi-facetted but includes not enough hold, wind, naps, and ionic charges on the hair being too similar one to another so the hairs repel from each other.


I am a little confused...could this frizz be caused or made worse by using an ionic hair dryer?

Thanks,
Jennie

laurabeth33 11-06-2006 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jen4you
Spider Weby Frizz--This frizz looks like a web of individual hairs separated, mainly on the surface, and are laying across the surface of the hair in places they don't belong. The number and density of hairs who are individually separated and laying separate from their curl-homes determines the intensity of this type of frizz. The cause can be multi-facetted but includes not enough hold, wind, naps, and ionic charges on the hair being too similar one to another so the hairs repel from each other.


I am a little confused...could this frizz be caused or made worse by using an ionic hair dryer?

Thanks,
Jennie

Good question...I should have been more specific. Ionic hair dryers aren't the issue. Some products (ISO, Joico, and several other Zotos brands are forthright about using this technology) ionically charge their ingredients to have a positive charge so that negative-charged hair attracts their products, in theory, creating more evenly healthy-acting hair. However, when all the hairs next to each other have the same charge, like repels like and spider weby frizz is created.

Ionic hair dryers, from what I've read, don't leave ion charges on the hair.


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