Why haven't more hair companies caught on to FSG?

O.K., so thought I would google hair gels with flaxseed in them. I know that there are companies who do, but there aren't a whole lot. In doing my search, I found some companies like Aveda, who make a flax seed gel and came across this one:

Longhairlovers Luxe Thicken Up! Styling Lotion which has Ingredients: organic flax seed gel, organic aloe vera gel, filtered water, organic wheat starch, organic corn starch, panthenol, witch hazel, soy protein, grapefruit seed extract, organic horsetail, organic rosemary extract, organic bergamot mint essential oil.

And, of course BoticelliBabe makes her own, but why oh why haven't more hair care companies caught on to Flaxseed Gel? I know I can make it, but it would be nice to be able to buy it too.
3a/3b & fine
CG since 3/2010
Low sulphate shampoo once a week:
Elucence Moisture Benefits Shampoo

Rinse Out Conditioner - used only when needed - Elucence Moisture Benefits, & KCKT

Leave-in - used only when needed - KCKT

Co-wash- Elucence Moisture Benefits Conditioner (about 1-2 a week).

Stylers: KCKT, Eco-Styler Gel, AG:Recoil, FSG.

Styling: Raking and smoothing product throughout hair and then the Super Soaker Method without the Denman.
I wonder this too. And why haven't more mainstream companies caught on to cone-free or protein-free?
co-wash: exact vanilla
rinse out: tresseme naturals
leave-in: giovanni direct leave-in
stylers: kccc + he totally twisted mousse + coconut oil to sotc
I wonder this too. And why haven't more mainstream companies caught on to cone-free or protein-free?
Originally Posted by Copasetic
For protein free, I think that many conventional hair types who use harsher cleansing methods and heat styling require a bit of protein. Most don't notice issues with protein until they forgo some of the other things.

Well, I guess it depends too. I always got dried out with homemade DTs because they always had egg or mayo or some other proteiny drying thing.

But, I do think the average person can use more protein than a no or low sulfate person.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
I wonder this too. And why haven't more mainstream companies caught on to cone-free or protein-free?
Originally Posted by Copasetic
For protein free, I think that many conventional hair types who use harsher cleansing methods and heat styling require a bit of protein. Most don't notice issues with protein until they forgo some of the other things.

Well, I guess it depends too. I always got dried out with homemade DTs because they always had egg or mayo or some other proteiny drying thing.

But, I do think the average person can use more protein than a no or low sulfate person.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Actually, I've put some thought into this... as redcelticcurls mentions, full strength sulfates may account for some of the high protein use among major manufacturers. On the other hand, I've read descriptions of silicone use that essentially say that cones fill in holes on the hair shaft, thereby strengthening the strands and giving a smoother finish. Descriptions of protein use that I've read, say that proteins enter holes in the hair shaft thus strengthening the strand. So, I'm thinking if you use a hair product line that contains cones in the shampoo, conditioner, and the styling products, the holes are filled and not allowing needed protein to enter, thus heavy doses of the stronger, hydrolyzed proteins would be needed to benefit the hair.

Anyway, that's my theory as to why so many of us are discovering protein sensitivities while being low sulfate and cone free.
Still googling Organic Hair Gels...

This is what I found:

www.thehairoine.com The Hairoine's Flaxseed Gel. A product sold in England, but can be ordered through U.S. It is currently sold out though for US.

www.greenstreetlux.com Have a FlaxSeed & Aloe Spray Gel.

Another one I found was Aloe based, and called Blood of the Drago Styling Gel

Still wondering why major hair care companies haven't caught on to the awesomeness of Flax Seed Gel!
3a/3b & fine
CG since 3/2010
Low sulphate shampoo once a week:
Elucence Moisture Benefits Shampoo

Rinse Out Conditioner - used only when needed - Elucence Moisture Benefits, & KCKT

Leave-in - used only when needed - KCKT

Co-wash- Elucence Moisture Benefits Conditioner (about 1-2 a week).

Stylers: KCKT, Eco-Styler Gel, AG:Recoil, FSG.

Styling: Raking and smoothing product throughout hair and then the Super Soaker Method without the Denman.
I wonder this too. And why haven't more mainstream companies caught on to cone-free or protein-free?
Originally Posted by Copasetic

I've often wished the hair product companies would read this site. They'd find out that we are careful label readers,and we're alot more ingredient-savvy than they ever imagined. And that we care enough about our hair to make sure we are getting the best care for it. If they only knew, they'd make their products (especially the ones for curly hair) alot differently.
curlyinohio - you are so....right on
3a/3b & fine
CG since 3/2010
Low sulphate shampoo once a week:
Elucence Moisture Benefits Shampoo

Rinse Out Conditioner - used only when needed - Elucence Moisture Benefits, & KCKT

Leave-in - used only when needed - KCKT

Co-wash- Elucence Moisture Benefits Conditioner (about 1-2 a week).

Stylers: KCKT, Eco-Styler Gel, AG:Recoil, FSG.

Styling: Raking and smoothing product throughout hair and then the Super Soaker Method without the Denman.
Jessicurl's Rockin' Ringlets is very similar to the homemade flaxseed gel.
www.jessicurl.com
Most people who formulate products want to make products that we can't easily duplicate at home. FSG is so cheap and easy to make, there's really no reason to manufacture it.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

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HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic (now Hello Curly Curl Stimulater); Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
I doubt that's the case, look at pre-made pudding. I buy my FSG - I would rather pay the $$ than try to drag around 2 kids to health food stores for the ingredients, and keep them out of the kitchen long enough to make it!

I think it's a really valid question. Maybe because it's one of those products that's hard to market - it's got so many varied uses, as a styling creme, gel, etc. I would think it would be a goldmine.

BTW - Aveda has FSG out. It's a lot thinner consistency than homemade, but is pretty good.

http://www.aveda.com/product/CATEGOR...?ngextredir=1#

Stacy
3a/some b, med/high porosity, med texture

My current HGs:
Co-wash: Suave Naturals Coconut, VO5 Strawberries & Cream
Conditioner: Darcy Botanicals pumpkin, LVPNG, Deva OneC
Leave-in: KCKT, Deva B'Leave In
Cremes: CIAB, pink Boots, Komaza coconut, FSG, CJ CCCC
Gels: BRHG, AO B5, LALSG
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And there's this one. The "linseed infusion" sounds an awful lot like flax seed gel to me. Has anyone tried this gel?

http://www.lushusa.com/shop/products.../the-big-tease
I doubt that's the case, look at pre-made pudding. I buy my FSG - I would rather pay the $$ than try to drag around 2 kids to health food stores for the ingredients, and keep them out of the kitchen long enough to make it!

Stacy
Originally Posted by wookiemouse
Or premade peanut butter and jelly sandwiches or the pre-packaged crackers or cookies. Honestly, how hard is it to put a handful of goldfish into a ziploc bag. LOL. At times I buy the prepackaged stuff too cuz I'm feeling lazy.

Im with you. I'll buy instead so I don't have to worry about making some every few days or week.
I would think that part of the reason is that it's really hard to properly preserve a FSG product for any amount of time. Even with mainstream preservatives, I think the shelf-life is a lot shorter for FSG than other gels. It might simply not be monetarily feasible to keep a fresh stock and ensure product quality.
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This area is under construction as my hair type changed and nothing works well for me. I shampoo, I condition and pretty much have done nothing but chuck my hair in a messy bun for the past oh...year? Yeah, I'm that lazy.

No...going no-poo or CG does not work for me. It leaves me overconditioned and oily in a second no matter what I use, so that's not what's not working.
I too, would rather be able to buy the stuff, than have to make it. It isn't really difficult, but finding time to do it, and running to Whole Foods to get what I need, kind of is a bummer. I really, really wish more hair companies would catch on.
3a/3b & fine
CG since 3/2010
Low sulphate shampoo once a week:
Elucence Moisture Benefits Shampoo

Rinse Out Conditioner - used only when needed - Elucence Moisture Benefits, & KCKT

Leave-in - used only when needed - KCKT

Co-wash- Elucence Moisture Benefits Conditioner (about 1-2 a week).

Stylers: KCKT, Eco-Styler Gel, AG:Recoil, FSG.

Styling: Raking and smoothing product throughout hair and then the Super Soaker Method without the Denman.
Here is the link to the Longhairlovers FSG.
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...26tbs%3Disch:1
3a/3b & fine
CG since 3/2010
Low sulphate shampoo once a week:
Elucence Moisture Benefits Shampoo

Rinse Out Conditioner - used only when needed - Elucence Moisture Benefits, & KCKT

Leave-in - used only when needed - KCKT

Co-wash- Elucence Moisture Benefits Conditioner (about 1-2 a week).

Stylers: KCKT, Eco-Styler Gel, AG:Recoil, FSG.

Styling: Raking and smoothing product throughout hair and then the Super Soaker Method without the Denman.
I'm intrigued by the Longhairlovers products. I feel the PJ in me twitching! I must resist temptation lol.

On a side note; flaxseed oil is also fantastic for a vitamin supplement. It's hard to find gels and I really never thought or know how to make my own products (never investigated to learn either) So I started to take vitamins. It's done wonders for my hair health and nails too. My doc says patients that are or have gone through major surgeries and such should really looking into flaxseed oil because of hair falling out etc. It's also rich in Omega-3 which is great too.
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Hair Attributes: Mixed 2 with 3A undergrowth & no root curl.
Fine, Thin, Easily Manipulated, Easily Styled, Easy to Frizz, and Easy to damage.

Favorites: CJ Daily Fix, CJ Rehab, Anything Spiral Solutions, Darcy Botanicals Pumpkin Seed

New Goals To restore my hair after dying it twice in two weeks. Learning more about products found in the stores to fit my tight budget. I'm still working on trying to grow out my hair.
SusieQin- I know what you mean... I keep researching all this stuff. I really feel I could write a book! But, I have really been interested in a natural hair gel that I could buy, that is a decent price. The Long Hair Lovers Gel is a bit pricey, and you have to figure in S&H, but it looks like the popular FSG that I make at home. I just wish I could find it for a decent price to buy.

Omega 3's are awesome for you. When pregnant with both my kids, I made sure during the last trimester, that I ate sardines...Last trimester, because that is when most of eye, and brain development occur and it is excellent for the baby. (And I don't like sardines). After awhile my daughter was like no way! and I had to switch to tuna. But, yes you are absolutely right. They are awesome for you. Walnuts have Omega 3's too!
3a/3b & fine
CG since 3/2010
Low sulphate shampoo once a week:
Elucence Moisture Benefits Shampoo

Rinse Out Conditioner - used only when needed - Elucence Moisture Benefits, & KCKT

Leave-in - used only when needed - KCKT

Co-wash- Elucence Moisture Benefits Conditioner (about 1-2 a week).

Stylers: KCKT, Eco-Styler Gel, AG:Recoil, FSG.

Styling: Raking and smoothing product throughout hair and then the Super Soaker Method without the Denman.
The Aveda Flaxseed and Aloe Gel contains alcohol, so I didn't care for it - it even smelled strongly of alcohol. Note that their ingredient list only shows "key" ingredients, not all ingredients.
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - med./fine, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett
Yes, during my first search about products, I saw the Aveda Flaxseed gel, but it didn't look organic to me, and I read a lot of reviews about it drying the hair. Still looking. Finding a lot of products catered to curly hair with aloe (which my hair loves) and different oils, like coconut oil. So I wondered if I used FOTE, mixed with a little bit of coconut oil (not too much) what it would do.....Hmm......
3a/3b & fine
CG since 3/2010
Low sulphate shampoo once a week:
Elucence Moisture Benefits Shampoo

Rinse Out Conditioner - used only when needed - Elucence Moisture Benefits, & KCKT

Leave-in - used only when needed - KCKT

Co-wash- Elucence Moisture Benefits Conditioner (about 1-2 a week).

Stylers: KCKT, Eco-Styler Gel, AG:Recoil, FSG.

Styling: Raking and smoothing product throughout hair and then the Super Soaker Method without the Denman.
I'd think they'd be awfully difficult to mix
2C/3A/3B - modified CG - med./fine, normal/low porosity/normal elasticity

Current Main Rotation: MG217 medicated or Aim2Health 'poos for scalp, YTCarrots or Elucence cond., Spiral Solutions Protein & Deeply Decadent Cond., CJCCCC reg or lite, KCCC, Giovanni LA Hold Hair Spritz + lots more, sporadically

HG Method: Super Soaker + Smasters-ing, brief upside down diffusing w/360o diffuser then clips/clamps & air dry. Newly gray - stopped my henna glosses!

www.fotki.com/auntnett

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