How do you shop if you're not a PJ?

I need a new styler. I've got a list of recommendations from this site, but then I go to the store and get distracted and intrigued by all the other products. And then I can't find the one I originally went looking for.

It's not that I'm cheap, but I just don't like having a collection of products in the house. I'm afraid of buying something that doesn't work, so I often end up buying nothing. There are too many temptations out there .. and I need a new gel... or mousse... or cream. How do I choose? What if it's wrong? Are ther other non PJ's on the board? You know, I wonder if I really am a PJ and just trying to keep it under control, not fall off the wagon
I need a new styler. I've got a list of recommendations from this site, but then I go to the store and get distracted and intrigued by all the other products. And then I can't find the one I originally went looking for.

It's not that I'm cheap, but I just don't like having a collection of products in the house. I'm afraid of buying something that doesn't work, so I often end up buying nothing. There are too many temptations out there .. and I need a new gel... or mousse... or cream. How do I choose? What if it's wrong? Are ther other non PJ's on the board? You know, I wonder if I really am a PJ and just trying to keep it under control, not fall off the wagon
Originally Posted by mopsy
As a PJ.. I dont buy stuff JUST cause it's there, but b/c it has the potential to actually work. I strike out sometimes, but in the end I have more options which is good cause my hair gets bored using the same stuff.

Now.. my advice to you as someone who wants the best of both worlds is to SAMPLE. Now..

there's the swap board where you can post an ad requesting samples..and folks can reply with hopefully reasonable prices to send to you.. some folks even offers samples to sell

or..

My curl yoda and guru KathyMack offers samples at reasonable prices of a lot of the major products we talk about here. PM her. She's top notch and wont bite.

Either way its a crap shoot, but at least you don't flatten your wallet too badly figuring it out. I DO hope you realize though, that experimentation is part of the journey, and its only by trying that you'll realize your hair's true potential.

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I'm a big fan of samples and love manufacturers that offer them. I'm also a big fan of the swap board.

When I'm fascinated by a product I have to ask myself, do I need it or just want it.
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Playing with my hair is a hobby. Fluffy, fine natural 4a. Goal= Healthy, beautiful hair that retains its length.
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Hear that crash? It's me falling off the CG wagon.
I second the recommendation to try samples from Kathymack.
2/c and some 3A. Modified CG.
Protein sensitive
Highly porous. Color over grey.
Best 1st day method: Super Soaker
Conditioners: Curl Junkie Beauticurls Strengthening Conditioner,
Deep condish: Curl Junkie Curl Rehab
Stylers: Mix Curls in a Bottle into everything for shine. Terrible pj
Sometimes try roller sets - classic glamor but I prefer my curls.
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Kathymack has saved me much money and heartache with her samples, for sure.

I also know that Jessicurl and Curl Junkie do sample sizes of their products, so you're not spending full price on something that may not work. I do prefer ordering Curl Junkie samples from Kathymack, though, because, last I checked, the manufacturer's samples are in pouches, which is really inconvenient, IMO. Kathymack puts hers into little bottles.

Out of curiosity, what are you interested in? I may have it lurking in my cupboard, mostly unused.
Location: West Virginia (Eastern Panhandle)
2b/cMii, medium-high porosity

Likes protein and most oils, HATES mineral oil
Summer Routine
Poo: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture
Cowash CJ Daily Fix
Rinse out: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture
Leave In: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture, SSRPT
Stylers: Ecostyler Krystal, LALSG (in really high dews)
PT: SS Repairing Protein Treatment
The samples are a great idea. I usually peruse the travel/trial aisles and again, resist the temptation to go home with lot of little bottles. Maybe i should just give in.


Out of curiosity, what are you interested in? I may have it lurking in my cupboard, mostly unused.
Originally Posted by finaleofseem
Well... a styling product. Nothing too heavy, nothing with a "super strong hold". Just a little definition and some hold. My hair is thick, but fine/medium fine. I don't think it's porous. I'm not CG, but I've definitely cut back on the 'cones since I joined here. Someone mentioned something by Soma. It sounded interesting, but I can't find it around here. I'm thinking of trying the Paul Mitchell Sculpting Lotion (I think that's what it's called) again. I used it years ago and it may be worth another look now that I know a little more about my hair.

Thanks for all the info
I'm not a product junkie but I AM a sample junkie. Kathymack is the best for that.
When I go to the store for a particular item I put it in my basket first thing, then I'll look around at other things just for fun.
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The samples are a great idea. I usually peruse the travel/trial aisles and again, resist the temptation to go home with lot of little bottles. Maybe i should just give in.


Out of curiosity, what are you interested in? I may have it lurking in my cupboard, mostly unused.
Originally Posted by finaleofseem
Well... a styling product. Nothing too heavy, nothing with a "super strong hold". Just a little definition and some hold. My hair is thick, but fine/medium fine. I don't think it's porous. I'm not CG, but I've definitely cut back on the 'cones since I joined here. Someone mentioned something by Soma. It sounded interesting, but I can't find it around here. I'm thinking of trying the Paul Mitchell Sculpting Lotion (I think that's what it's called) again. I used it years ago and it may be worth another look now that I know a little more about my hair.

Thanks for all the info
Originally Posted by mopsy
Hmm, maybe you could do with some homemade flax seed gel and possibly a medium hold gel on top? You could do one of the inexpensive Herbal Essences gels, or Kiss My Face Upper Management?
2c/3a with 2b underlayer. Fine, porous. Loves protein. But not hydrolized wheat protein. Yuck.

Wash: WEN Sweet Almond Mint or Pomegranate
Gels: LA Looks Sport Gel
Mousse: Tigi Catwalk Curlesque
Curling creams/gellies: Coffee Coco Curling Cream Lite, Spiral Solutions Curl Enhancing Jelly, Curls Gel-les'c
SOTC: JC N&S (LOVE)
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Some places let you try products and then return them if they don't work for you. Definitely Sally's and I think I read Ulta does this too. Sally's has the GVP brand of the Paul Mitchell Sculpting Lotion you're looking at. I love the Biotera Curl Creme from Sally's - my hair properties are similar to yours, but not thick.

ETA: Their Biotera Glaze is good too since you don't need a lot of hold.
2c/3a, fine, low-med porosity, below BSL, mod CG since 9/09

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Last edited by kasden; 04-25-2010 at 09:46 PM.
Well,as long as we're talking about products....I occasionally make FSG. I should try that again. And about the curl creams. Do they have hold, or just definition? Would I mix it with something else? It could just be the change of seasons, but nothing seems to be working now. I forgot there's a new Sally's near where I'm going today, so I'll stop by later.

I think I really like this guy

Thanks again.
I think Biotera Curl Creme helps with definition and I feel like it adds moisture/helps retain moisture. For me it doesn't have hardly any hold. I like to emulsify it in my hands with a bit of gel and apply it to soaking wet hair. It works well this way with HESMU, but does not emulsify with LALSG. It kind of softens the gel so it's not crunchy. I also like to use it on 2nd day hair if it seems a little dry - I mix a little in the palm of my hand with a little water and smooth over the canopy.

It does contain humectants (Propylene Glycol and Glycerin) which the Curl Chemist says: "Due to the limitations and pitfalls of humectants in extreme weather conditions, it is apparent that these ingredients probably function best for curly-haired consumers in moderate climates, with temperatures and humidity in the medium range." But...I've used it in extremely low and high dew points with no problems.

I like this little guy...
2c/3a, fine, low-med porosity, below BSL, mod CG since 9/09

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I'm fairly certain that given a cape and a nice tiara, I could save the world." - Leigh Standley
Oh....I didn't know Kathy Mack does samples?! I will have to PM her. I really, really want to try Curk Junkie so.....bad.
3a/3b & fine
CG since 3/2010
Low sulphate shampoo once a week:
Elucence Moisture Benefits Shampoo

Rinse Out Conditioner - used only when needed - Elucence Moisture Benefits, & KCKT

Leave-in - used only when needed - KCKT

Co-wash- Elucence Moisture Benefits Conditioner (about 1-2 a week).

Stylers: KCKT, Eco-Styler Gel, AG:Recoil, FSG.

Styling: Raking and smoothing product throughout hair and then the Super Soaker Method without the Denman.
If at all possible, I get samples first. There is nothing worse I hate then buying something and having it not work.
I choose what product I want to try based on ingredients. I use all natural (or pretty close to all natural) products. No silicones. No sulfates.

Second I make sure it would work for my hair. For example, since I have coarse hair I make sure it has no or little protein in it. No heavy conditioner. But I need lots of slip. I need at least medium hold for styling products.

I stick to products for a long while, until I get tired of them, they stop working for me, or I just need a change.

Currently I use Yes To Cucumbers Daily Care Conditioner, shampoo bars, ACV rinses, and homemade FSG with honey and grapefruit seed extract in it.
Cleanser: Liquid Castile Soap diluted in a foaming soap dispenser
Rinse:
ACV rinse
Detangler/Conditioner:
Oyin Handmade Greg Juice or Juices and Berries
Stylers: Botticelli Botanicals Styling Mudd, KCCC, Honey Rinses and BRHG, Crack Leave-in Hair Cream when straightening

Tools: Silk pillowcase, Floursack towels, Jersey T-Shirts, Wide Tooth Comb, Velecta Paramount TGR-VQX Hair Dryer (for when I straighten) and BaByliss PRO Ionic Rollabout Hard Hat Dryer
The samples are a great idea. I usually peruse the travel/trial aisles and again, resist the temptation to go home with lot of little bottles. Maybe i should just give in.


Out of curiosity, what are you interested in? I may have it lurking in my cupboard, mostly unused.
Originally Posted by finaleofseem
Well... a styling product. Nothing too heavy, nothing with a "super strong hold". Just a little definition and some hold. My hair is thick, but fine/medium fine. I don't think it's porous. I'm not CG, but I've definitely cut back on the 'cones since I joined here. Someone mentioned something by Soma. It sounded interesting, but I can't find it around here. I'm thinking of trying the Paul Mitchell Sculpting Lotion (I think that's what it's called) again. I used it years ago and it may be worth another look now that I know a little more about my hair.

Thanks for all the info
Originally Posted by mopsy
I have a large bottle of Bioterra Gel that I only used once, because it didn't give me a lot of hold. If you want it, I'll send it out to you. Send me a PM with your address, and it's yours, free of charge.
Location: West Virginia (Eastern Panhandle)
2b/cMii, medium-high porosity

Likes protein and most oils, HATES mineral oil
Summer Routine
Poo: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture
Cowash CJ Daily Fix
Rinse out: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture
Leave In: Tresemme Naturals Nourishing Moisture, SSRPT
Stylers: Ecostyler Krystal, LALSG (in really high dews)
PT: SS Repairing Protein Treatment
I think I can be PJ at times, but honestly, I'm very frugal. So I just save my receipts all the time, and if it doesn't work for me, I just return it.

It minimizes all the bottles I have laying around to a bare minimum, and keeps me from spending too much.


Hair Type - medium to fine texture, high porosity, lots of it, type 2b/3a


I have a large bottle of Bioterra Gel that I only used once, because it didn't give me a lot of hold. If you want it, I'll send it out to you. Send me a PM with your address, and it's yours, free of charge.
Originally Posted by finaleofseem
That's so nice of you! I just came home from Sally's with my very own bottle. I also bought the Biotera Curl Cream. I thought maybe they would go well together. I had the Naturelle gel in my hands but the Biotera had very similar ingredients (Naturelle had more botanical extracts) and was less expensive. I was concerned about the glycerine with summer approaching, though. If I really like the gel I'd take you up on your offer. I'm okay with buying it, so maybe someone else can benefit from your generosity.
I just noticed that the Biotera is Naturelle. Well, the other bottle also said Naturelle on it, but was smaller, had different graphics on the bottle, and didn't say Biotera. I bought the bigger, cheaper bottle.

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