quick question(scroll to the bottom)

So far the cg method has made my hair softer than before, but when my hair is soft it tends to look frizzy eventhough it doesn't feel like it at all!
Also i've notice that my hair has reacted better with products since the cg method than before.

(NT)
I was looking on this website about hair types then my mum came in my room for something.She looked at my computer screen and said,"Your hair looks like that picture."She was pointing to the 2b picture(forgot to say this was before they updated the hair type section).

Only now i'm thinking about what she said,because when I finished co wash my hair I someone knocked on my door and i had to do some very long survey,it took about 20 minutes.When i finished the surbey my hair at the front already frizzed up because I had no products in my hair, and i saw that the front of my hair wasn't that curly it was more loose waves.So i decide to let it finish dry and see what my hair type really is.
But I got one problem with that,i'm crap at telling what hair type am I and I need help with it so here are the pics...
(btw my hair has many different curl/wave patterns so expect alot of pics)







I really want my hair to get back to its old ways nice and thick like before in this pic below.

Last edited by Princess Emzie; 05-22-2010 at 05:01 PM. Reason: new question
Also forgot to mention that does anyones hair get a looser s pattern at it gets longer?
It's not uncommon for hair on one head to be a few different types. I'm not that great at deciding exactly what the types are, its just curly to me.

Sometimes its possible for the weight of your hair to pull on your hair and loosen the curl as it gets longer as well.

Last thing, check out the newbie section so you can learn about hair texture and porosity, etc. Those are the things you really want to figure out.
Very basic hair wiki
http://curlyhairwiki.wetpaint.com/
In depth wikis
http://curlyhair.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

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2b/3a medium/coarse semi-porous/iii
White Rain Ocean Mist GVP conditioning balm. Bioterra/LA Looks. Air dry. SOTC w/LOOB..I think its my first HG.
Experimenting with homemade recipes.
also keep in mind that the 2a//b/c 3a/b/c etc classification system isn't really that important other than what your hair looks like. you also need to take into consideration your hairs texture, porosity, elasticity, and density. those factors are far more important, especially in considering what types of products you'll be using to make your hair look its best!
2c/3a
somewhere between fine and medium texture
average porosity underneath, fairly high porosity in the canopy



cowash: Suave Tropical Coconut
rinse-out: GFTN, One-C
styling: LALSG, BRHG, EcoStyler

I agree with the other posters that hair type isn't that important. Texture and porosity are the most important. But just for fun, I'd say that you're a 3b. And yes, 3Bs hair tend to loosen as the hair gets longer. In a short bob the curls of a 3b would appear much tighter than they would at shoulder length. By the way, your hair and you are very pretty.
3b/c, medium-coarse, low porosity, high density
HG: Jessicurl Too Shea and Kinky Curly Curling Custard
Shampoo: nonsulfate shampoo and Suave Naturals sulfate shampoo when needed
I'd say 3b, maybe near 3c. As previous posters have said, curl type isn't important compared to porosity and texture (this site can help you figure out yours: http://livecurlylivefree.com/curly%20hair%20basics.htm).

As a fellow 3b, I will say from experience that it's not that 3b loses curl as it gets longer but that it seems to show past damage and current overconditioning on the ends more obviously than other curl types seem to (both of which result in the sort of loose curl on the ends in your 2nd photo). More weight to your hair will cause your curl to 'pull out', but usually that'll be uniform, not just on the ends.
3b/c. Fine, med-high porosity, normal elasticity. Hair loves oils in summer, protein in winter. Constantly battling the hard water monster.

Favourites:
CJ Curl Theory, Curl Rehab, Smoothing, Curl Fix, Daily Fix, CCCC, CIAB, CQ, SSCC, MC shampoo, Inecto Pure Coconut Oil, CP luscious curl creme (summer), DB Pumpkin Seed (summer), FD/MT, JCWDT, JCTS

American literature PhD student in the UK...
It's not uncommon for hair on one head to be a few different types. I'm not that great at deciding exactly what the types are, its just curly to me.

Sometimes its possible for the weight of your hair to pull on your hair and loosen the curl as it gets longer as well.

Last thing, check out the newbie section so you can learn about hair texture and porosity, etc. Those are the things you really want to figure out.
Originally Posted by loewin
Thanks for the suggestion!
Ill definitely go and check out the newbie section
also keep in mind that the 2a//b/c 3a/b/c etc classification system isn't really that important other than what your hair looks like. you also need to take into consideration your hairs texture, porosity, elasticity, and density. those factors are far more important, especially in considering what types of products you'll be using to make your hair look its best!
Originally Posted by emthefantastical
Trying to find products that works for every part of my hair is like trying to find gold in a gold mine its hard work!
But apart from that thanks for helping me understand about the classification system.
I agree with the other posters that hair type isn't that important. Texture and porosity are the most important. But just for fun, I'd say that you're a 3b. And yes, 3Bs hair tend to loosen as the hair gets longer. In a short bob the curls of a 3b would appear much tighter than they would at shoulder length. By the way, your hair and you are very pretty.
Originally Posted by multicultcurly
Thanks for the hair type suggestion and that lovely comment!
I'd say 3b, maybe near 3c. As previous posters have said, curl type isn't important compared to porosity and texture (this site can help you figure out yours: http://livecurlylivefree.com/curly%20hair%20basics.htm).

As a fellow 3b, I will say from experience that it's not that 3b loses curl as it gets longer but that it seems to show past damage and current overconditioning on the ends more obviously than other curl types seem to (both of which result in the sort of loose curl on the ends in your 2nd photo). More weight to your hair will cause your curl to 'pull out', but usually that'll be uniform, not just on the ends.
Originally Posted by oddityofwings
I never knew overconditioning could do that!
Thanks for the advice!
quick question is aveda be curly curl enhancer natural or not?
I was lookin at the ingredients and some of them I don't know what they are.
quick question is aveda be curly curl enhancer natural or not?
I was lookin at the ingredients and some of them I don't know what they are.
Originally Posted by Princess Emzie
What is natural, to you?? We all have our own definitions, which is why I say my hair likes the more natural products. If you want people to comment on ingredients, you need to list them with your question. Here are the Be Curly ingredients:

Ingredients:
Aqueous Extracts: Linum Usitatissimum Extract, Althea Officianalis Extract (marshmallow-natural hold), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetyl Alcohol, Phenyl Trimethicone, Behentrimonium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Panthenol, Fragrance, Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol, Amly Cinnamal, Limonene, Cinnamidopropyltrimonium Chloride, Polyquaternium 11, Glycerin, Tocopherol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Phenoxyethanol (reformulated late 2006)

The bolded is a cone.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
quick question is aveda be curly curl enhancer natural or not?
I was lookin at the ingredients and some of them I don't know what they are.
Originally Posted by Princess Emzie
What is natural, to you?? We all have our own definitions, which is why I say my hair likes the more natural products. If you want people to comment on ingredients, you need to list them with your question. Here are the Be Curly ingredients:

Ingredients:
Aqueous Extracts: Linum Usitatissimum Extract, Althea Officianalis Extract (marshmallow-natural hold), Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Extract, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetyl Alcohol, Phenyl Trimethicone, Behentrimonium Chloride, Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Panthenol, Fragrance, Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol, Amly Cinnamal, Limonene, Cinnamidopropyltrimonium Chloride, Polyquaternium 11, Glycerin, Tocopherol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Phenoxyethanol (reformulated late 2006)

The bolded is a cone.
Originally Posted by kathymack
my definition of natural is that it does not contain any harmful chemicals and some of the words in the ingredient list Polyquaternium 11,Tocopherol,Geraniol, Linalool, Citronellol, Amly Cinnamal.If anyone knows which is ok and not ok for hair please let me know.
If you do a quick google/wikipedia search, you can find out what most of those chemicals are. Some of the examples I found are:

Polyquaternium-11 functions as an antistatic agent, a film former and a hair fixative. (deemed safe by the Cosmetic Review Panel.)

Tocopherols (or TCP) are a class of chemical compounds of which many have vitamin E activity.

Geraniol is a monoterpenoid and an alcohol. It is the primary part of rose oil, palmarosa oil, and citronella oil (Java type). It also occurs in small quantities in geranium, lemon, and many other essential oils.

Linalool (pronounced /lɪˈnŠlɵ.ɒl/) is a naturally-occurring terpene alcohol chemical found in many flowers and spice plants with many commercial applications, the majority of which are based on its pleasant scent (floral, with a touch of spiciness).

Most people, who have concerns about hair products (especially natural products,) would care about removing the cone and possibly the Polyquaternium 11 without using a harsh ingredient. The people who are concerned about "natural" products would be concerned that they use parabens as a preservative. Many natural products emphasize that they are paraben free.
3a (Corkicelli), highlighted, fine, low porosity
modified CG, since April '07
CG since 3/11/08

SE PA

HGs: Anything Sevi; Curly Kinks Satin Roots, Curlycue ReNew and Coil Jam; homemade FSG and okra gel; soap bars; UFD Curly Magic; Botanical Spirits Jellies, CJ Repair Me, Marie Dean Leave Ins and Curl Creams
If you do a quick google/wikipedia search, you can find out what most of those chemicals are. Some of the examples I found are:

Polyquaternium-11 functions as an antistatic agent, a film former and a hair fixative. (deemed safe by the Cosmetic Review Panel.)

Tocopherols (or TCP) are a class of chemical compounds of which many have vitamin E activity.

Geraniol is a monoterpenoid and an alcohol. It is the primary part of rose oil, palmarosa oil, and citronella oil (Java type). It also occurs in small quantities in geranium, lemon, and many other essential oils.

Linalool (pronounced /lɪˈnŠlɵ.ɒl/) is a naturally-occurring terpene alcohol chemical found in many flowers and spice plants with many commercial applications, the majority of which are based on its pleasant scent (floral, with a touch of spiciness).

Most people, who have concerns about hair products (especially natural products,) would care about removing the cone and possibly the Polyquaternium 11 without using a harsh ingredient. The people who are concerned about "natural" products would be concerned that they use parabens as a preservative. Many natural products emphasize that they are paraben free.
Originally Posted by kathymack
Thanks for breaking it down.
I thought natural was just natural, I never knew there was more than one meaning.
I'm such a newbie!

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