maybe a stupid question...

how is it that mineral oil covers the hair and doesn't let moisture get in...how is it then that the hair soaks up water when you make your hair wet...it still gets wet by the water...so it must soak it up into the hair...but how is that possible to get trough the mineral border?

If this is a stupid question...then im sorry don't want to annoy anybody
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this is a good question. dang im stumped! lol will await further from someone else.
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I'm a newbie, and I don't know much about mineral oil, and I might not be reading this question right, but...

I think it sounds like mineral oil prevents water and moisture from getting inside the hair, but that does not mean that the hair can't get wet. It's just coated with water.
I don't know that mineral oil actually prevents the absorption of water, per se. Mineral oil coats the hair, sitting on top of the hair shaft, instead of being absorbed. If you put mineral oil on a rag, and then wet the rag it would still absorb the water. Nothing that I know of it actually going to water-proof your hair, it just doesn't work that way. Scientifically, mineral oil is excellent at sealing your hair, which is why it's used in so many conditioners and body lotions. Once the hair or skin is wet, the mineral oil helps to seal that moisture in. This is a fact, not opinion. This is a double-edged sword though, because the next time you go to get your hair wet, your hair will of course get wet, but not the same as it would if the mineral oil wasn't present. And although the mineral oil initially helped hold onto water/moisture, that moisture will eventually evaporate. Once it evaporates your hair isn't moisturized anymore, and you need to wash the mineral oil away and start all over. If it isn't washed away, then your hair can't absorb water or other moisture properly, and will dry out. However, if your CG, you aren't cleansing with anything that is strong enough to remove the mineral oil, and in the long run that will definitey damage the hair.
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hmm that sounds really logical... thanks voor explaining...no mineral oil for me
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Mineral oil is a moisturizer (other code name: sealer) in that it prevents moisture from leaving the hair shaft (prevents evaporation), but it doesn't give moisture NOR prevent moisture from getting in. It simply prevents it from leaving-- which is why one can find themselves getting weighed down with moisturizers (mineral oil, most other oils and butters) when used in combination with conditioning products (which do ADD moisture). Many products out on the market have these ingredients working in tandem.
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Once the hair or skin is wet, the mineral oil helps to seal that moisture in. This is a fact, not opinion. This is a double-edged sword though, because the next time you go to get your hair wet, your hair will of course get wet, but not the same as it would if the mineral oil wasn't present. And although the mineral oil initially helped hold onto water/moisture, that moisture will eventually evaporate. Once it evaporates your hair isn't moisturized anymore, and you need to wash the mineral oil away and start all over. If it isn't washed away, then your hair can't absorb water or other moisture properly, and will dry out. However, if your CG, you aren't cleansing with anything that is strong enough to remove the mineral oil, and in the long run that will definitely damage the hair.
Originally Posted by smasters467
The whole premise of washing mineral oil off is because you dont want to weigh down FURTHER since it permits moisture in and doesn't let it out. The bad side of the coin is that mineral oil is a short-lived occlusive--meaning that it does seal, but like most sealers (some more than others) it needs to be reapplied for maintenance If its not reapplied THEN water will evaporate from the hair shaft and as a result the hair will become dry. If your hair has mineral oil in it that hasn't been washed away then its hard to reassess what your hair needs in terms of moisture and at the time you condition and style it appears to be too much and you weigh down...

but once the mineral oil loses its power-- you dry out and pouf because the truth is you're underconditioned. Most people never get to that point though as they feel gross with the weigh down and immediately run to wash their hair. LOL!

Otherwise, +1.
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can i guano this thread for the next question??

if a shampoo with sulfates has silicones in it....is the sulfate removing the silicone? or is the silicone staying behind in your hair??

im asking about garnier fructis triple nutrition shampoo to be specific
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can i guano this thread for the next question??

if a shampoo with sulfates has silicones in it....is the sulfate removing the silicone? or is the silicone staying behind in your hair??

im asking about garnier fructis triple nutrition shampoo to be specific
Originally Posted by empressri

My theory is that these things are all about concentration. At a certain concentration sulfates can remove silicones, and at a certain concentration they cannot so you receive cleansing... with the smoothing effects of silicone simultaneously. This is why the listing of the ingredients and the type are pretty important as well.

Let's break it down:

Agua/Water/Eau, Sodium Laureth Sulfate (aka: SLES), Coco-Betaine, Glycerin, Sodium Chloride, Amodimethicone, Cocamide Mipa, Laureth-5 Carboxylic Acid, Polyquaternium-10, Pyrus Malus Extract/Apple Fruit Extract, Ppg-5-Ceteth-20, Parfum/Fragrance, Sodium Benzoate, Peg-55 Propylene Glycol Oleate, Propylene Glycol, Peg-60 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Salicylic Acid, Niacinamide, Pyridoxine Hcl, Olea Europaea Oil/Olive Fruit Oil, Citric Acid, Saccharum Officinarum Extract/Sugar Cane Extract/Extrait De Canne A Sucre, Benzyl Alcohol, Persea Gratissima Oil/Avocado Oil, Linalool, Methyl Cocoate, Butyrospermum Parkii Butter/Shea Butter, Ribes Nigrum Oil/Black Currant Seed Oil, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Sodium Cocoate, Sodium Hydroxide, Citrus Medica Limonum Peel Extract/Lemon Peel Extract, Camellia, Sinensis Extract/Camellia Sinensis Leaf Extract, Ci 19140/Yellow 5, Ci 14700/Red 4. F.I.L. D3497872.
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Ok.. Laureth and Lauryl are NOT the same thing. Laureth is a surfactant but weaker on the scale ( SLS>ALS>SLES>ALES)because fatty alcohol chain in laureth has to be ethoxylated (ethylene oxide added to the fatty alcohol chain) to receive its detergent properties. Now because of this the "laureths" are not as irritating as the "lauryl" (which are not ethoxylated). Ethylene oxide is carcinogenic. Funnily enough, many sites will tell you that Sodium Laureth Sulfate is not and most people will believe it because they don't know the chemistry behind it.

Anyway, SLES is a detergent, surfactant as well as foaming agent and at certain concentrations it can be one , 2 or all three. Perhaps along with the betaine it acts more as a foaming agent and the betaine is the cleanser (which doesn't remove cones) and that's how A-cone gets to do its thing without having to go byebye. That's my theory.

ok I'm off the geek box Ri so hopefully that was helpful to you-- cause I tell you this website has made me use my Chem degree more than.. LIFE. LOL!!
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yeah all i know is....when i go back to class im hitting you up cause i DEF need a tutor for organic chemistry!!!!!!!

im a geek too so i understood that all lol
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yeah all i know is....when i go back to class im hitting you up cause i DEF need a tutor for organic chemistry!!!!!!!

im a geek too so i understood that all lol
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Organic!? Ugh!! I remember that class and I HATED it!! Bane of my existence. Of course my BF back in those days was the O-Chem star/teacher's pet so whatever I didnt grasp I got xtra help. LOL!! Hit me up though if you need, we'll work it out! Hehe!
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