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Old 05-30-2010, 05:25 PM   #1
 
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Default A little confused about ACV rinses...

If ACV rinses are supposed to close the cuticle, then why is it suggested that you put on conditioner after the rinse when the cuticle is now closed and the conditioner can't get in there...can it? I understand that ACV rinses can be drying thus the need for conditioner but is the conditioner able to get into the hair after the cuticle has been sealed? I have the "Live Curly, Live Free" e-book and Tiffany suggests the same, conditioning after the ACV rinse but I still don't understand how that works if your cuticle is now closed from the rinse?

Any idea how that works? Thanks.
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Old 05-30-2010, 05:34 PM   #2
 
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There was a big discussion last year about this. Tiffany chimed in, as a matter of fact. I think the cuticle isn't all that "flexible." It doesn't open and close like venetian blinds. It probably takes a little more then a quick rinse of ACV to totally close it. However, general consensus, at that time, was that it makes sense to do the ACV rinse last.

I only do the ACV rinse after I've cleansed with my natural soap bars. Soap is alkaline, hair is acid, the ACV rinse restores the pH balance. Most hair products have a pH that is similar to hair, so I'm not sure if the ACV rinse is necessary--if you're using products.
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Old 05-30-2010, 11:08 PM   #3
 
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I've used ACV rinses both mixing with shower water and with conditioner... I didn't notice a difference, but for me, the conditioner mix was a lot easier to spread evenly over my head. Water, being water, it's a lot harder to control where it goes and make sure you get it everywhere. I'm not sure if one method is more effective than the other though.

No matter how many times I do it though, the smell that comes out when I open the bottle never fails to make me gag.. yuck!
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Thanks ladies. I've actually only done one ACV rinse ever and I remember I that I did it after my co-wash and before my heavy duty conditioner. I do remember thinking my hair felt dry after the rinse and therefore I put in loads of conditioner after. Although, I may have overdone it with the rinse since I have so much hair I mixed up about 3 bottles of water and ACV and poured all three over my head. Maybe I'll try it with less rinse and try it after my heavy duty conditioner this time and see how it feels. I know I can always add more conditioner as a leave-in on top if needed. Thanks!!

Kathymack - I have coarse, porous hair so I thought this would be a good alternative to protein treatments since coarse hair generally doesn't do well with protein. The conditioner I've been using is GVP Conditioning Balm and sometimes I used Suave Naturals Tangerine as my co-wash/detangler. My problem is that my hair always has this halo of frizz and even in the shower when soaking wet there are frizzy strands of hair that refuse to clump up nice and smooth like the other hairs. I'm hoping the ACV rinses will help with that.
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Old 05-31-2010, 05:28 AM   #5
 
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Teresina, I don't think that's going to do it for you. Sounds like your hair needs more moisture. Personally, I didn't find the GVP Conditioning Balm moisturizing enough for my hair.

Your hair sounds similar to alexjoujou's daughter. She has a blog: http://thewavytales.blogspot.com/ It's very informative about many things, but they go through T's journey. There are pictures at the top that are really demonstrative. They use a LOT of conditioner.
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Kathymack - OMG - thanks so much! Her daughter's hair is so close to mine!! I'm going to read up over there! Thanks!
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Kathymack - OMG - thanks so much! Her daughter's hair is so close to mine!! I'm going to read up over there! Thanks!
Glad my hunch was right. There's a lot of great information about products on her blog, too. She's a very lucky young lady to have a mother who really cares--learn about all different types of hair and buy great products. I think T loves her hair at this point. It looks really incredible. The change is remarkable since she's working with and not against her hair!
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i always acv rinse after i deep condition and i don't have any issues with dryness.
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Maybe the ACV seals in the moisture from the co-wash or (low)poo, but then, because it can be drying, a follow up with conditioner is necessary? Just a thought.
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