Conditioner Chronicles comments thread

WoW! Impressive work!

i have a question. That CO Bigelow Not Your Ordinary Daily Conditioner, where did you purchase that?

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my Fotki hair journey/experiment diary PW is brio (and I really need to update it!)

3A hair; coloring with henna/indigo since July 2009; normally follow the CG method. Still searching for my HG products!

I noticed that you reviewed the Back to Basics Pomegranate conditioner - was this the reformulated one in the oddly shaped reddish bottle? My hair loves the old formula as a detangler/leave-in, and I've been wary of trying the new one - it sounds like the new formula doesnt have as much detangling to it.
3a, fine hair, and lots of it!

Currently using:
Aura Rosemary Mint Conditioning Rinse
Back to Basics Pomegranate Peach Conditioner
Got2b Curlvacious Shimmer Curl gel
Back to Basics Curl Catalyst
Paul Mitchell Round Trip
I see that many of the better rated ones have a behentrimonium (chloride or methosulfate) as a high-up ingredient. What does this do?

I see that the list will help kill some PJ, which is nice. I see so many promising conditioners with "nope" ingredients for me. It helps explain why I don't seem to like many conditioners for more than a week or two at a clip also.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
i have a question. That CO Bigelow Not Your Ordinary Daily Conditioner, where did you purchase that?
Originally Posted by Brio
Bath & Body Works Flagship Store (also available online with B&BW).
I noticed that you reviewed the Back to Basics Pomegranate conditioner - was this the reformulated one in the oddly shaped reddish bottle? My hair loves the old formula as a detangler/leave-in, and I've been wary of trying the new one - it sounds like the new formula doesnt have as much detangling to it.
Originally Posted by Bluwhisp
Yep, it was the new formula. It didn't have nearly the slip of any of B2B's old formulas. They are very cone-y but minimal slip--a weird combination.
I see that many of the better rated ones have a behentrimonium (chloride or methosulfate) as a high-up ingredient. What does this do?
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
It detangles. I hadn't noticed that (good eye, redcelticcurls!). I know a while back, someone was searching for conditioners with one of those two ingreds because they had noticed it served them well.
Thank you!

Ah, that makes sense. I've noticed on me that conditioners with this do detangle well. It's just the protein part that some have that gets me.

Another ingredient question - what do the cetearyl alcohols do? They seem to be around in the better ones too.

I thought that there was a post about what some of the ingredients do, different than the article on the main site, but I couldn't find it. I had been wondering what ingredients tend to give slip.
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
Could I have a link to laurabeth's reviews please?
3c/3b
Could I have a link to laurabeth's reviews please?
Originally Posted by DevilCurl
This is the thread that we are commenting on:

http://www.naturallycurly.com/phpBB/...ic.php?t=91196
Kiva! Microfinance works.

Med/Coarse, porous curly.
Wooooow! Thank you
3c/3b
Wow, laurabeth, what dedication - a year to test them all out!!!!

Thank you from the bottom of my heart {hugs} for this thread! I hope it will become a 'sticky', but I think I'm going to end up printing it out anyway so I will be sure to have it.

You are such an asset to this site. LB - thanks a million again!!
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2b~~fine texture~~normal porosity (except for highlights, which are high)~~normal elasticity~~medium density


Shampoo: Still use sulfates, but only on roots
Rinse out: Deva One C, JC Too Shea, Original Sprouts Deep Conditioner
Curl Enhancers: KCCC; JC Rocking Ringlets, JC Spiralicious, & Confident Coils
Styler: BRHG (over any and all curl enhancers) - this is the one product that I never change - absolute HG!!


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Another ingredient question - what do the cetearyl alcohols do? They seem to be around in the better ones too.

I thought that there was a post about what some of the ingredients do, different than the article on the main site, but I couldn't find it. I had been wondering what ingredients tend to give slip.
Originally Posted by redcelticcurls
Cetearyl alcohols are fatty (moisturizing) alcohols and provide moisture and dissolve alcohol-soluble ingredients without the need for drying alcohols.

There was a post...I remember it. It must have got the way of the dodo. I don't think it got down to the level of what causes slip so much as what detangles.

There were a few conditioners that detangled famously that were sorry on moisture (really, really sorry) or way-heavy on protein that weren't given good ratings because of their limitations. In this day and age, I expect an all-in-one from a conditioner.
wow. wow. wow. thank you so much for going to all that trouble -- and probably more than a few bad-hair days -- so that we would have this info! i appreciate it tons

and, am on my way to figure out if i can get jessicurl's too shea! locally
Good to know the new B2B formulae dont have the same slip - I can still get the old ones locally, so I'll keep stocking up!
3a, fine hair, and lots of it!

Currently using:
Aura Rosemary Mint Conditioning Rinse
Back to Basics Pomegranate Peach Conditioner
Got2b Curlvacious Shimmer Curl gel
Back to Basics Curl Catalyst
Paul Mitchell Round Trip
Laurabeth, I can't thank you enough for doing all this!! I can't believe it's finally complete, I really appreiciate all your time, hard work and dedication.
Lotsa 3c curls
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Updated 2009 and 2010 pics
Hair Journal/Products

It's not about having what you want, it's about Wanting what you have
Thanks Laurabeth for all your hard work! You've both saved me lots of money and awakened my inner PJ. What a wonderful asset you are to naturallycurly.com.
3b/c normally, 3a/b in the winter

Hmmm...for the bad in heat/humidity ones, if the climate you live in is really hot but not really humid (like the CA desert for example), does that mean it's still bad because of the heat, or OK because of lack of humidity??
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Hmmm...for the bad in heat/humidity ones, if the climate you live in is really hot but not really humid (like the CA desert for example), does that mean it's still bad because of the heat, or OK because of lack of humidity??
Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla
Good question. Most of them did okay in heat without humidity, but the ones with oils in particular didn't do well in wet or dry heat. I guess it's like applying oil and basking in the sun back in the day, but in this case, it's frying the hair.
Hmmm...for the bad in heat/humidity ones, if the climate you live in is really hot but not really humid (like the CA desert for example), does that mean it's still bad because of the heat, or OK because of lack of humidity??
Originally Posted by wild_sasparilla
Good question. Most of them did okay in heat without humidity, but the ones with oils in particular didn't do well in wet or dry heat. I guess it's like applying oil and basking in the sun back in the day, but in this case, it's frying the hair.
Originally Posted by laurabeth33
Interesting...that does make sense!

All in favor of making Laurabeth our resident curly genius?
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Awesome work, mad curl scientist!

One of the first things I noticed was the 'holy triumvirate' of ingred's that work for me & seem prevalent in a lot of your top picks: cetearyl alcohol, behentrimonium chloride, glycerin. These must be the moisture powerhouses. One C, Fructis (my 2 faves) - and CO Bigelow - all have them in their top 5 ingreds.

I found myself agreeing with almost all of your reviews of the many cond's I've tried, even though our hair types are very different. The one exception of course is my beloved GF Sleek & Shine. But even there I agree that the Leave-In is a far superior product.
3B, bra-strap length
laidback, very-modified CGer
HG: GF Sleek 'n Shine Leave-in; Alagio

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